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#26
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Jbear I want to pick up on something you wrote earlier about your wife's words not meeting her actions, it seemed like you were implying this was in areas other than your sex life. Do you feel like you have wider issues than mismatched desire?
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What other issues do you have? It’s possible those other issues are causing lack of sex.
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I don’t think comments are as much negative as they are more planted in reality. Is your marriage satisfying otherwise? Often times people want a lot of sex to substitute for other things missing. |
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I don't think anyone's wanting you to feel bad, at all. I did have a similar gut reaction reading your post...it's really way too common (not to gender stereotype, but in my experience, and those of just about every woman I know) for men to push too far at some point, and to express entitlement regarding their sexual needs. It is unnerving, and it's valid to point out that you can't be sure to find what you are looking for should you leave...but of course you'd be able to seek out a partner who you could possibly get more intimate with. The fact that you have made an ultimatum I think legitimises what you're asking of your wife...it's totally fair the way I see it. Of course it'll be painful for her to hear...again, what a sad situation when you've had so many years of marriage and parenting together. I do hope you can both be happy!
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Yes. Admittedly, she has some distractions in her life for the last year or so - taking care of a parent. But the problems were there before. The problem being that I can’t get her to engage with me. She’s somewhat inaccessible. She is quite anxious but is now getting treatment for this, which I giver her credit. But I’ve told her - love is not so much what you say. It’s what you do. She worries so much about "getting things done" that she doesn’t stop to enjoy life. Maybe reducing her anxiety will help this.
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Oh my, sorry but this is the only reaction im having reading this
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#34
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It sounds like your wife has a number of things on her mind that could be interfering with not just her sex drive but also with her interest in any sort of intimacy. Maybe one could look at the six times per year, not only as a small number for you, but also as a large number for her in view of what has been on her mind, what she has been dealing with.
How long has she been getting help for her anxiety? What changes if any in her anxiety have you observed as a result of the help she is receiving? |
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How do you know that those platonic friends have high sex drive? Unless you are intimate with them you have no ways of knowing. I’d not go by what they tell you (not sure why they do at all). People say a lot of things. Especially on this topic. High sex drive and supposedly “good in bed” is what people like to brag about. It’s often very far from the truth
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#36
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I am not making you out to be an ogre. You and your wife need to have communication...no blaming or anything terse.
Has it always been this way? What if you started to date a 44 year old female & five tears from now, you have ED? At that point your new girlfriend is 49, and she only wants intercourse with you...but you cannot due to organic reasons.. You indicate to get there are other things which the two of you could do for her to orgasm...and she is stating “No, I only want I intercourse”? I do not think any one on here wants to hear this.. I hope you and your wife are able to communicate. |
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It sounds like communication is an issue - note I am not blaming anyone here. Many of us writing on here have had similar issues, you are not alone. It's almost always a two way thing, and problems can escalate as we react to each other. Sometimes it can become very difficult to find a way to come together again (& I mean this in a much wider sense than just sex).
You are seeing a therapist I believe and you write your wife won't see a couples counsellor but is getting help for anxiety. Does she discuss her therapy with you? Do you discuss yours with her? I am wondering if this could be a way to open up an honest dialogue between you two? I am not judging you btw. These things are complex and more nuanced than a post on a forum can ever convey and your sadness and frustration is clear. |
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Put out or get out, that's exactly how it comes across to a woman. |
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There is usually more to the story. It’s not uncommon for one person wanting more sex than the other. But for a person to claim extreme urgency of having to have more sex and suggesting leaving and looking for other partners something else must be happening.
Too many other things cloud the issue: lack of communication, not really knowing each other needs, attraction to a therapist (?), female platonic friends discussing their sex life with OP etc It doesn’t sound like a happy marriage with just not enough sex. It sounds that maybe having more sex is going to save this marriage. But it doesn’t work that way. It sounds like perhaps this marriage is unsatisfying in general and “not enough sex” is just manifestation of the misery in general. |
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What did your wife say when you told her you would leave her if she didn't give you what you wanted i.e. more sex?
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I didn’t phrase it "give me more sex or I’ll leave you.” I told her that I would like to have an active and mutually enjoyable sex life with HER. But I also made the point that sex is a critical part of a happy marriage, and that I couldn’t stay in a sexless marriage.
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I have been told that a marriage without sex can work if both parties are okay with that. But it’s not true for me. For me, a healthy, enjoyable sex life is critical in a marriage. And I’m not going to apologize for feeling this way.
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I am on the other side of where you are with this. For me, it's been complicated:
I have a history of being called the "unemotional" one and not being very affectionate. In counselling, I discovered that this was due to childhood emotional neglect, so this is just how I relate to people. When I am sad, lonely, stressed, depressed etc, I get comfort from being alone - I know my partner gets comfort from affection - I do not! As I've discovered this and realised that my partner is "anxious attachment", it's created a fairly negative spiral. He pursues me, this makes me feel suffocated, so I run away or push him away. Every time I push him away, I feel disgusted with myself, but then I also lose a bit of attraction to him, because I just think "why do you allow this". It's a bad cycle and even though I'm aware of it, I don't know how to break it. With the emotional neglect, I have some difficulty in really expressing my needs. I would rather just walk away from a conversation, than have to tell him how I am really feeling - it is very, very difficult for me. When you say that you have indirectly told your wife that you WILL have an active sex life (and I know you may have put it in a different way), I think about how I would interpret that. I would just feel that you are looking after yourself and you haven't even asked me what I needed. If you asked me what I needed, I would probably say nothing, it's just how it is. I know this is me and my problems, but I'm hoping that this might give you a different perspective and that maybe it is helpful. Try and figure out what it is that she needs. |
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JBear, do you think there are any changes you can make to your situation that will ease your distress? Is it right that you don't really want to leave your wife, but need some things to change? Is anything you can change just to take some of the pressure off?
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My thoughts.
Maybe you both are not a good fit anymore due to this issue. How is the current state of your marriage otherwise, aside from your need for sex not being met? I think you guys need to communicate more openly. Have you asked her why she recoils at your touch and kiss? Have you asked her why she won't see a marriage therapist with you? Again, I personally think that you feel how you feel, you need what you need, and maybe this makes you guys a poor fit for each other now. The fact that she won't see a marriage therapist, is concerning. You're unhappy and doing all the work, here, on this forum, it seems. I see you trying. I don't think you should talk to female friends about your sex life unless you're not married / in a relationship. How does she feel about you aside from sex? Again, how is your marriage aside from that? Edit: I also think its important to note what others are saying in this thread. There could be numerous reasons why she doesn't want sex: her anxiety, menopause, etc. I think you need to communicate with her, and she with you. And of course, honor those feelings she has, and who she is now. It sounds like you are respecting her not wanting to have sex, but at this point, it sounds like she is who she is now (she's not the same person you married sexually), and isn't going to give you sex. It can come off as pressuring if you keep asking her for sex. Last edited by Anonymous49105; Aug 30, 2020 at 08:15 AM. |
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Have you ever looked into love languages? You can find info about it online. You two might just have different needs.
How realistic you both are about insisting on meeting your own respective needs I am not sure about, but it sounds like you want different things. I just worry that your perception is clouded by other people’s stories: how everyone else has this crazy sex life and how your mom didn’t want sex (why is it even a topic of discussion?) . Focus on you and your wife. I think you might be getting all too hopeful about other ladies who may or may not even exist. You might lose your marriage over a fantasy |
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#50
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You don't have to apologize at all, you can just leave. Make sure you give her a generous settlement. |
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