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Old Jul 22, 2021, 03:46 PM
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When I was in school and a few classmates talked about how hard an exam was, I said the exam was super easy.
In this situation you flatly contradicted the speakers and painted yourself as a lot smarter than them.

That's risky from a social perspective.

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It’s a hit and miss joining a conversation. Sometimes they let me in, sometimes they don’t.
I bet it would be worth figuring out when they let you in, and when they don't.

I bet it isn't "hit or miss".

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Maybe they feel strongly about kicking him out.
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Wtf! People can be unpredictable.
I think that the reactions you are describing are predictable. If you just flatly contradict what others are saying, you are likely to get a negative reaction from them. If you present yourself as a lot smarter than they are, you are likely to get a negative reaction from them.
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Old Jul 23, 2021, 11:21 AM
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In this situation you flatly contradicted the speakers and painted yourself as a lot smarter than them.

That's risky from a social perspective.


I bet it would be worth figuring out when they let you in, and when they don't.

I bet it isn't "hit or miss".


Yes exactly!


I think that the reactions you are describing are predictable. If you just flatly contradict what others are saying, you are likely to get a negative reaction from them. If you present yourself as a lot smarter than they are, you are likely to get a negative reaction from them.
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Old Jul 25, 2021, 03:33 AM
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My husband is extremely supportive. My father and siblings not as much, but I can't say they are "extremely" unsupportive. Other people, also unsupportive.

Perhaps the most supportive to my husband and me (as a couple) is one of his sisters. Not so much for psych-related things, but in general. My husband has a couple friends that are similar.
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Old Jul 25, 2021, 12:10 PM
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I worked night shift yesterday and I usually work day shift. A guy in a wheelchair came in and it became clear shortly after that he didn’t need a wheelchair. He speed walked to our counter asking for sauces and he speed walked to the restroom.

My coworkers talked among themselves that he’s not really disabled and that he seriously needs to go. After a few exchanges like that, I joined in saying he’s not affecting us so it’s really not our business. One of them asked me to repeat myself, so I did. Then they told me to go do something cuz they weren’t talking to me.

Wtf! People can be unpredictable. Those same people were friendly at the beginning of my shift. They allowed me to join in all their other conversation that day, before the one about the “disabled” man. So much for joining a normal conversation. Maybe they feel strongly about kicking him out.

When I was in school and a few classmates talked about how hard an exam was, I said the exam was super easy. I breezed through it. One of them went, “that’s nice.” And went on talking.

It’s a hit and miss joining a conversation. Sometimes they let me in, sometimes they don’t.
My opinion on all this is that you can have conscious intent when chiming into convos. As to whether your goal is to fit in with the other people, or if it is to achieve something else, like stand up for/defend this other person, etc. If you are clear on your intent when engaging in a convo, that helps a lot with having your own agency and not having to rely on other people's goodwill all the time IMO.

Last edited by FooZe; Jul 25, 2021 at 04:17 PM. Reason: administrative edit (removed 2nd quote and discussion of it)
Thanks for this!
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Old Jul 25, 2021, 01:14 PM
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Good point about intent re joining convos.
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