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my exams result was terrible, and here marks decide which collage I will attend there's no skill tests or anything just (marks)

I need prayers now, I don't wish to attend something not related to my skills and hobbies because I never work good in something I don't like or have knowledge in.

what made problem for me i was forced to take subjects i don't like according to education system, and this did cause lots of problems for me and effected on the ones I like that i couldn't know which to study or what to do that in the end I felt depressed and didn't wish to study hard. and many many other problems effected on me I couldn't feel encouraged enough to put more effort.
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Don't worry! God is guiding your every step and is in control of everything in your life.
Everything happens so that you become wiser, stronger and more loving like God.
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my exams result was terrible, and here marks decide which collage I will attend there's no skill tests or anything just (marks)

I need prayers now, I don't wish to attend something not related to my skills and hobbies because I never work good in something I don't like or have knowledge in.

what made problem for me i was forced to take subjects i don't like according to education system, and this did cause lots of problems for me and effected on the ones I like that i couldn't know which to study or what to do that in the end I felt depressed and didn't wish to study hard. and many many other problems effected on me I couldn't feel encouraged enough to put more effort.
Then don't. Find a tech college or community college and take what YOU want to do for career or hobby--can you do that there? You'll be happier. Goodness, college is tough enough without trying coursework you don't care about!
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Then don't. Find a tech college or community college and take what YOU want to do for career or hobby--can you do that there? You'll be happier. Goodness, college is tough enough without trying coursework you don't care about!
all i can do now is just sit and wait for any good collage left, here fields are limited they concentrate on specific ones only, and the ones i like is already impossible to reach with this mark, i will see whats left and try to pick best.
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awww It's a tough spot to be in , for sure! Can you retake the testing? here in USA they even have books to study for whatever college entrance test... and they let you retake the test over and over after a period of waiting time.

I know it feels like the end of the world---but it really isn't. Maybe by waiting (and retaking if you can) even one semester you'll be in a better place to study?
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awww It's a tough spot to be in , for sure! Can you retake the testing? here in USA they even have books to study for whatever college entrance test... and they let you retake the test over and over after a period of waiting time.

I know it feels like the end of the world---but it really isn't. Maybe by waiting (and retaking if you can) even one semester you'll be in a better place to study?
i cant retake tests again that's the problem. and i don't want to try starting another year if that even possible cause it will waste more money.
its like the end of world here, really, they don't give a chance or give everyone what they deserve.

my wish was to enter medical one to learn psychology to fix myself and others, i already read much for knowledge, if i could just have test without this marks system i would have hope to pass, same for art and other ones i love.

its really like the end of road, now i will pray that god hid for me much better collage and accept this mark, i might have hope because it seem like some didnt get high marks as well.
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aw phooey. Well sometimes God does hide us in a different place... I know I didn't go to the colleges I expected, even had a scholarship for U of Miami! sigh. The best we can do at times is to be content...and I know that's a tough place to find It isn't the end of the world, and it may just be a round about path to where you want to be anyway.
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aw phooey. Well sometimes God does hide us in a different place... I know I didn't go to the colleges I expected, even had a scholarship for U of Miami! sigh. The best we can do at times is to be content...and I know that's a tough place to find It isn't the end of the world, and it may just be a round about path to where you want to be anyway.

yeah, all i can do pray and still try to search for some things to help out a little and hope for best.
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I will add my prayers to those of others.
I know you need and want to make plans now but maybe it's that pressure which made test taking all the more difficult. No, you can't take them over but rather than looking on the poor scores as a measure of you and your ability to learn I'd like to talk about what I've learned for myself about learning.
I have never been good at math although I could work my way around a lot of it...I still didn't have confidence in my skills, except at basic levels. I met someone who was in business for himself but had gotten a degree in math before. He told me how he had started at a university and couldn't make the grade in one math class (he had had another major). He went to one professor who took time to talk to him about the field in general. The man was a true teacher and he conveyed not just the structure of math but instilled a love of it in my friend to such an extent that he did change his major and got the degree with high scores.
And the friend showed me something in math to explain concepts...and the way he explained it (with a graph) it made all the sense in the world and I could explain the function back to him with understanding. He was pleased (he never wanted to be a teacher) to be able to convey to me as something had been conveyed to him and he told me to apply it in the future to other things I needed to learn.
He said subjects are taught from books and by lessons but our brains don't always process things that way. We can't always pick the best teachers but we can try to pick apart what we are supposed to learn and set up our own way of learning it.

Do you cook at all? Think of a recipe...you read the instructions and maybe you're the sort of person who follows a recipe exactly. Then there are others who first relate the recipe to something else they've made and they then apply what they already know to the new project. Some people will like the ingredients but want to change it suit their method of cooking or dietary restrictions...and so on.
Well, that's a basic example but the same approach can be applied to whatever you need to learn.
Focus first on what isn't going to change at all. What the school/teacher/course requires.
Second, think about the subject. Textbooks are notoriously dense....so either from a library or online, find something that offers an introduction to the subject...maybe even a book review of the required text. Reviews are good. They'll tell you the complaints others have about it and give praise too. Now all of a sudden the text book isn't a total stranger, you know something about it... Maybe a review will mention a similar book or a link to a website which will give you a broader perspective on what the subject is about.
Maybe you'll come across something which makes more sense to you than other things you've heard or read. Keep notes on resources like this...if you have to write a paper, you'll already have some things on hand.

You have now made a hole in the wall of the educational system. You don't have to make your square edges fit into a round hole. You can stay round. You shouldn't have to give up being yourself to improve yourself in school...but the educational system is a system dedicated to its own continued power and existence.
Don't challenge them...work around them. If you have a choice of teachers (in the future) find out all you can, get advice... you're not the only person who struggles to get through school.
I don't know where you're going to school but I know in the US people often go to a community college first to get the basics out of the way and then apply for the rest of the schooling.

You've said you want to help others; I think most people on this forum do, one way or another. There's a saying "Only the wounded healer heals".... I can think of a lot of ways this has been applied in my own life but rather than say 'read this' or 'read so-and-so' I'd suggest just looking up the term.
The perfect, happy person not only can't heal, they can't understand why others (might) need healing. But the perfect happy person doesn't exist...they only hide what afflicts them. The main thing about being a healer (this is from all I've read, not personal experience) is that you have to understand your own wounds, pain and suffering.
You can't heal yourself but in time you can find the initial wound and remove the cause.
And If I overcome that, I'll still have the scar...but it's more valuable...because if I touch it (mentally/emotionally) then I can be in touch with other's pain and need.
To have credentials which allow you to be paid for the work you do, yes that needs education but the real work, caring about others, can start at any time.
The problems in the world, of the world, aren't going to change...nor are the people who create them. But you can choose to look for, and find more...more within, more without (people who need your help in small ways---that's how it really begins..) there is a wealth of information online , lectures, recordings...so that you can put something within yourself that affirms who you are and who you want to be. The schooling is a means to an end but it's not the only means...and the end is more than you can possibly imagine.
Learn to trust yourself (asking for prayers is a most important and telling first step and you've done that)...
I was married, we planned on a family and then I found out I couldn't have children.
It came close to breaking me because I knew my husband wasn't being honest with me when he said it didn't matter. So I had two losses to deal with. I remember I was hanging the laundry on the line and weeping...didn't want to hang the laundry, wanted to escape, anything but the laundry was wet and needed to dry, so I just kept hanging the clothing up and putting clothes pins on them. And something made me remember the verse from the prayer..."They will be done". I couldn't change anything so I accepted that I couldn't...and that things would be horrible...but I kept repeating those words...and kept using the clothespins and then when the laundry was dry, took off the clothes pins, folded things, put them away and just kept doing what I'd normally do. The marriage ultimately died but I kept the phrase with me and it got me through and started on a new life: A better life. So what I tell you is from my heart and my life, not a book or something someone else told me.
I hope your life and search are blessed and that you find your true calling.
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i thinkThy Will Be Done is soo true, only if God wants it will we get it.sometimes we get good things we didn't even know we wanted or needed.
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my wish was to enter medical one to learn psychology to fix myself and others, i already read much for knowledge, if i could just have test without this marks system i would have hope to pass, same for art and other ones i love.

I hope your marks are enough to attend another collage that is related to your skills and hobbies, I mean other than the medical one, remember that "everything happens for a reason". I just hope you don't let the society's closed-minded perspective affects your decision if you really want to attend one of the art colleges.
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I will add my prayers to those of others.
I know you need and want to make plans now but maybe it's that pressure which made test taking all the more difficult. No, you can't take them over but rather than looking on the poor scores as a measure of you and your ability to learn I'd like to talk about what I've learned for myself about learning.
I have never been good at math although I could work my way around a lot of it...I still didn't have confidence in my skills, except at basic levels. I met someone who was in business for himself but had gotten a degree in math before. He told me how he had started at a university and couldn't make the grade in one math class (he had had another major). He went to one professor who took time to talk to him about the field in general. The man was a true teacher and he conveyed not just the structure of math but instilled a love of it in my friend to such an extent that he did change his major and got the degree with high scores.
And the friend showed me something in math to explain concepts...and the way he explained it (with a graph) it made all the sense in the world and I could explain the function back to him with understanding. He was pleased (he never wanted to be a teacher) to be able to convey to me as something had been conveyed to him and he told me to apply it in the future to other things I needed to learn.
He said subjects are taught from books and by lessons but our brains don't always process things that way. We can't always pick the best teachers but we can try to pick apart what we are supposed to learn and set up our own way of learning it.

Do you cook at all? Think of a recipe...you read the instructions and maybe you're the sort of person who follows a recipe exactly. Then there are others who first relate the recipe to something else they've made and they then apply what they already know to the new project. Some people will like the ingredients but want to change it suit their method of cooking or dietary restrictions...and so on.
Well, that's a basic example but the same approach can be applied to whatever you need to learn.
Focus first on what isn't going to change at all. What the school/teacher/course requires.
Second, think about the subject. Textbooks are notoriously dense....so either from a library or online, find something that offers an introduction to the subject...maybe even a book review of the required text. Reviews are good. They'll tell you the complaints others have about it and give praise too. Now all of a sudden the text book isn't a total stranger, you know something about it... Maybe a review will mention a similar book or a link to a website which will give you a broader perspective on what the subject is about.
Maybe you'll come across something which makes more sense to you than other things you've heard or read. Keep notes on resources like this...if you have to write a paper, you'll already have some things on hand.

You have now made a hole in the wall of the educational system. You don't have to make your square edges fit into a round hole. You can stay round. You shouldn't have to give up being yourself to improve yourself in school...but the educational system is a system dedicated to its own continued power and existence.
Don't challenge them...work around them. If you have a choice of teachers (in the future) find out all you can, get advice... you're not the only person who struggles to get through school.
I don't know where you're going to school but I know in the US people often go to a community college first to get the basics out of the way and then apply for the rest of the schooling.

You've said you want to help others; I think most people on this forum do, one way or another. There's a saying "Only the wounded healer heals".... I can think of a lot of ways this has been applied in my own life but rather than say 'read this' or 'read so-and-so' I'd suggest just looking up the term.
The perfect, happy person not only can't heal, they can't understand why others (might) need healing. But the perfect happy person doesn't exist...they only hide what afflicts them. The main thing about being a healer (this is from all I've read, not personal experience) is that you have to understand your own wounds, pain and suffering.
You can't heal yourself but in time you can find the initial wound and remove the cause.
And If I overcome that, I'll still have the scar...but it's more valuable...because if I touch it (mentally/emotionally) then I can be in touch with other's pain and need.
To have credentials which allow you to be paid for the work you do, yes that needs education but the real work, caring about others, can start at any time.
The problems in the world, of the world, aren't going to change...nor are the people who create them. But you can choose to look for, and find more...more within, more without (people who need your help in small ways---that's how it really begins..) there is a wealth of information online , lectures, recordings...so that you can put something within yourself that affirms who you are and who you want to be. The schooling is a means to an end but it's not the only means...and the end is more than you can possibly imagine.
Learn to trust yourself (asking for prayers is a most important and telling first step and you've done that)...
I was married, we planned on a family and then I found out I couldn't have children.
It came close to breaking me because I knew my husband wasn't being honest with me when he said it didn't matter. So I had two losses to deal with. I remember I was hanging the laundry on the line and weeping...didn't want to hang the laundry, wanted to escape, anything but the laundry was wet and needed to dry, so I just kept hanging the clothing up and putting clothes pins on them. And something made me remember the verse from the prayer..."They will be done". I couldn't change anything so I accepted that I couldn't...and that things would be horrible...but I kept repeating those words...and kept using the clothespins and then when the laundry was dry, took off the clothes pins, folded things, put them away and just kept doing what I'd normally do. The marriage ultimately died but I kept the phrase with me and it got me through and started on a new life: A better life. So what I tell you is from my heart and my life, not a book or something someone else told me.
I hope your life and search are blessed and that you find your true calling.
thanks so much
that happened with me in English instead, its my second language and never found any teacher to teach me well and even got yelled at many times and hit for failing in it, but later i found good teacher though he might be frowny, i didn't mind at all and understood there must be something making him like this, i cant deny how much he helped me and he even started to smile later when he saw how i approved. i keep getting better by time and even started writing poems and books in English instead of writing with my own language.

(happy person not only can't heal, they can't understand why others (might) need healing.) my friends never understand me when i tell them i'm not well, and even one of them when i told her my mark she laughed and told me oh just go to this BIS collage everyone end up there.

helping others is really difficult, sometimes i feel same other person feel, but not sure if what work for me; would work for him/her, but i just love seeing others well and try to help them.

its hard to change life when many people dont change, so we just try to fit and pass problems. :/

i'm sorry to hear about happened with you

now i just repeat god does whats better for us and as a verse say you might ask for something you love, but turn out to be bad, while refuse something you hate, turn out to be good and whats right for you. and i should go on and just do my best no matter what happen, i hope god surprise me and even if not well i should at least learn lesson from anything happen
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Then don't. Find a tech college or community college and take what YOU want to do for career or hobby--can you do that there? You'll be happier. Goodness, college is tough enough without trying coursework you don't care about!
I feel like He is hitting me with bricks and I don't know why. I mean how much can He expect ONE person to endure? I'm really starting to lose any faith I had as it's just one thing after the other.
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I'm not clear how the educational system works in Egypt. And you may already be familiar with what I'm about to mention. But I have been an avid online college student for several years now, and it is wonderful.

You might be surprised to know that many top universities in the world now offer legitimate online degree programs, in a wide variety of subjects.

One of the things I enjoy the most in my online courses is that we always have people of all ages from all over the world, together in one class. That makes for a very diverse and interesting contribution to the discussions. I actually think online courses end up being more interesting because you can't just sit quietly at the back of a classroom; you must participate via the discussion boards etc. You all help each other and make friends with people all over the world.

Your English seems pretty good, so here is a possibility for you:

Harvard University has an Extension School. Anybody can take classes there, but they also have real degree programs that you can complete nearly entirely online from anywhere in the world.

For example, I'm finishing up my B.A. degree. In order to get accepted into a degree program here, you do have to meet the requirements, pass 3 of the classes with a certain minimum grade, write an application essay etc.; but really it's not that hard. Then, the only other problem is they require you to take 16 units on-site at Harvard. So, you can do that either via Summer School, going for a semester, doing the one-month "January Sessions", or taking the weekend-long seminars.

There is some rumbling about whether a Harvard Extension School degree is as good as a traditional Harvard degree, but it is. The courses are usually the same. Traditional Harvard really is for teenagers, and this program for adults going back to school. Employers are enthusiastic about hiring from Harvard Extension School.

Also, while I'm unsure what the price would be for you as a foreign student, Harvard Extension School's degree program was really cost-effective compared against most of the lesser universities. They offer great financial aid as well (but again, not sure how that would relate to you as foreign student).

Finally, where you mention you prefer to study only what interests you, you might then look into an online degree program in the United Kingdom. I completed one at Oxford, and recently was accepted into a master's program at the University of Edinburgh. Many of their universities are developing these online degree programs. And in the U.K., you only study your major subject, unlike in the U.S. where you have to study a variety of subjects as well.

Anyway, besides all that, you should look into other online education options in Egypt, and other countries that might be of interest to you. This is a worldwide phenomenon and I believe it is the way of the future for education.
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I'm not clear how the educational system works in Egypt. And you may already be familiar with what I'm about to mention. But I have been an avid online college student for several years now, and it is wonderful.

You might be surprised to know that many top universities in the world now offer legitimate online degree programs, in a wide variety of subjects.

One of the things I enjoy the most in my online courses is that we always have people of all ages from all over the world, together in one class. That makes for a very diverse and interesting contribution to the discussions. I actually think online courses end up being more interesting because you can't just sit quietly at the back of a classroom; you must participate via the discussion boards etc. You all help each other and make friends with people all over the world.

Your English seems pretty good, so here is a possibility for you:

Harvard University has an Extension School. Anybody can take classes there, but they also have real degree programs that you can complete nearly entirely online from anywhere in the world.

For example, I'm finishing up my B.A. degree. In order to get accepted into a degree program here, you do have to meet the requirements, pass 3 of the classes with a certain minimum grade, write an application essay etc.; but really it's not that hard. Then, the only other problem is they require you to take 16 units on-site at Harvard. So, you can do that either via Summer School, going for a semester, doing the one-month "January Sessions", or taking the weekend-long seminars.

There is some rumbling about whether a Harvard Extension School degree is as good as a traditional Harvard degree, but it is. The courses are usually the same. Traditional Harvard really is for teenagers, and this program for adults going back to school. Employers are enthusiastic about hiring from Harvard Extension School.

Also, while I'm unsure what the price would be for you as a foreign student, Harvard Extension School's degree program was really cost-effective compared against most of the lesser universities. They offer great financial aid as well (but again, not sure how that would relate to you as foreign student).

Finally, where you mention you prefer to study only what interests you, you might then look into an online degree program in the United Kingdom. I completed one at Oxford, and recently was accepted into a master's program at the University of Edinburgh. Many of their universities are developing these online degree programs. And in the U.K., you only study your major subject, unlike in the U.S. where you have to study a variety of subjects as well.

Anyway, besides all that, you should look into other online education options in Egypt, and other countries that might be of interest to you. This is a worldwide phenomenon and I believe it is the way of the future for education.

thanks
I think I will accept any collage, but hopefully a little useful for my skills. then i can look for online one as you say and to develop more. I love learning, but I prefer something I like to do my best feeling happy and satisfied. my only problem in online ones is the cost, they mostly need payment and that is really hard to be honest, but i can see if there's at least simple free ones for now, doesn't have to be collage but at least learning courses.
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even if the exams were teribble. u might have the opportunity to study what u like at private college or ssome other college beyond ur expectation
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