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Old Jul 19, 2017, 08:37 PM
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Was wondering if anyone had heard of the book Refuge Recovery its an alternative to a 12 step program and is more about taking charge of your own life then a higher power. If anyone has read or wants to read about post or let me know.
The best quote from the book when I was recovering from addiction was
"Take refuge in knowing you have a path to recovery"
The book is by Noah Levine and has been gaining some popularity. I would also be interested in starting a weekly meeting if there is any interest.
-Best of wishes find refuge in your recovery.
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Old Jul 19, 2017, 08:48 PM
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While I'm not an addict and I have never been to a 12 step program, I do like this concept.

I've always had a problem with 12 step programs because they talk about the whole higher power thing like the person who is trying to get better has no power. I find that dehumanizing and degrading and if I ever became an addict for whatever reason and had to get treatment, I would outright refuse entry to a 12 step program for that very reason.

Alternative treatment methods such as this are essential for addicts I think. Not everybody believes in a higher power and many might feel as I do about the whole "you are powerless to heal your addiction without God" B.S.

We are solely responsible for our own destiny in life. No higher power can choose our fate for us.
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Old Jul 20, 2017, 02:00 AM
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While I'm not an addict and I have never been to a 12 step program, I do like this concept.

I've always had a problem with 12 step programs because they talk about the whole higher power thing like the person who is trying to get better has no power. I find that dehumanizing and degrading and if I ever became an addict for whatever reason and had to get treatment, I would outright refuse entry to a 12 step program for that very reason.

Alternative treatment methods such as this are essential for addicts I think. Not everybody believes in a higher power and many might feel as I do about the whole "you are powerless to heal your addiction without God" B.S.

We are solely responsible for our own destiny in life. No higher power can choose our fate for us.
I feel the same way.
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Old Jul 09, 2018, 03:21 PM
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I've been going to Refuge Recovery for about 8 months. It is empowering because I was told I could heal completely from my addiction. In 12 step programs you are an addict for life. I use it as an adjunct to AA and NA. RR starts out with a reading from the book, then a meditation and then group discussion. I like the format. It stays interesting.
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Old Jul 09, 2018, 04:12 PM
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i know the 59 steps to mind training (lojong) really made a difference in my outlook and attitude, when i was still quite ill. hope you keep posting.

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Old Jul 09, 2018, 04:26 PM
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i know the 59 steps to mind training (lojong) really made a difference in my outlook and attitude, when i was still quite ill. hope you keep posting.

Refuge Recovery. A Buddhist path to recovery.
Gus, which a t are a few of your favorite steps to mind training?
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Old Jul 09, 2018, 10:33 PM
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why would i want to have a favorite ??

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lojong

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Old Jul 10, 2018, 06:17 PM
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why would i want to have a favorite ??

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lojong

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Thank you, Gus! A good read and I learned something new today.
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