[bchlyn]

the area i work in has a very high incidence of autism... what we are learning about autism is that the child most likely has a predisposition for it genetically and then something environmental triggers the onset (one theory) ... sadly because of the budget crisis the officials have decided to close the program that is on my school site... this means that the children will most likely be sent to another school for preschool and then mainstreamed into a regular kindergarten class or kept in a special day class... i know that those plans aren't wrong... but the children were doing so well with the staff and stability that they had in the program they were in... i will miss having the inclussion for the children in my program... please pray for the children and their families during this transition...lyn

(((bchlyn ))))))))))))))))))))))
Always prayers for children all of them

Children with autism and Ld sometimes need a little more prayers

I pray for your teachers too
as thier work will be hard. My son goes to a private school since 5th grade. As my school could not teach him the way he needed to be.
He is high functioning. He is blessed. But still needs a small class room, CLass size I think no bigger than 10 or 12 usally less.
Your right it can be genetically and then something environmental triggers it. Look down in vids if you wish.
((((((((All the children))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
they all so matter
autism , LD , what ever it maybe...abused children. .............
((((((They all need to know they matter)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
I know you know that awww ty
muffy

[bchlyn]

their mom's and dad's need to be uplifted also... the last iep i went to i wanted to give the dad eye contact so he knew i was there supporting him... he had tears in his eyes as the psychologist read the dx... and he looked at me and said... maybe she will be president some day... i am believing in that dad's dream for his daughter... maybe she will be president....lyn

[Angel_of_the_Past]

I will keep you and the children in my prayers.

[nowheretorun]

(((all the children))))))) i pray you will find peace and healing... bless all on this thread.... may good spirit always be your friends....

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their mom's and dad's need to be uplifted also... the last iep i went to i wanted to give the dad eye contact so he knew i was there supporting him... he had tears in his eyes as the psychologist read the dx... and he looked at me and said... maybe she will be president some day... i am believing in that dad's dream for his daughter... maybe she will be president....lyn

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((bchlyn))))))))))))
The last meeting i went to ,Hes 17 now. And they gave me his iep
his reading leval was 6th grade on some parts. I just layed my head on the table. He was not there his school called into my school. Phone meeting ...
You right when the psychologist reads the report .... if your alone and the parent you need someone to look you in the eye...cause its so very very hard..........
But i never give up hope

[bchlyn]

you know muffy this subject is very close to me... when my son left 6th grade he was reading at a 3rd grade level... i couldn't get any help for him in junior high so i home schooled him... i worked during the day and taught my son at night... it was really hard on both of us... when he entered high school they retested him and he was only 6 months under his grade level... he is add without the hyperactivity and has many small learning disabilities ... his preforming iq is high... so he never qualified for much help... he is now 28... he dropped out of high school as soon as he turned 18 and it broke my heart... i have been praying that he would return to school... well last month he finished his GED... he set his mind to it and spent the last 6 months going to classes and taking the tests... this might sound like a small success but for my son it was huge... for me it was even bigger... Lyn

(((((bchlyn ))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
I am smiling for you and your son.
You never gave up hope
or your son.
You did wonderful for your son
Mine tests low on the charts written wise. Unless he has a scribe.
Then its a little better
Virbally thou he scores very high. Thats concidered LD when that happens
I am sure you know that. I pray what ever happens for my son I know it will end up ok. I have faith and love for him as you do for yours
((((((((((children and thier parents and the teachers and everyone))))

[Fuzzybear]

[bchlyn]

yeah... but unfortunately the average the two scores together and even though his preforming iq is extremely low (or was) his verbal iq is so high that when they average them he didn't qualify for help... that is why i had to home school him... i had someone from the regional center tell me that i needed to face the possibility that he may never learn to read... that wasn't good enough for me or him...your son is lucky to have a mom who cares so much... lyn

(((bchlyn )))))))))))))))))))) ty
Your son is blessed to have you
never forget that
((you mattered to him))))
he matters))))))

what i learned early was not to let them average those scores
SOmeone taught me at the meetings years ago that 2 different scores meant LD
Thats how I got him help
The scores were averaged
But I asked them what it meant the difference between the 2
They had to answer then.................................
The answer is there is a learning disablity......
I am so stubborn as it sounds like you are
(((every child matters)))))))))))))))))))))
no one should be left behind
in my eyes
and yours too
muffy

[bchlyn]

thank you....back then i didn't know much about the system... and was so busy keeping them safe from their dad that i didn't know to fight the system... now i know ... so i had to take it on myself... both with the learning disabilities and the abuse issues... i knew that the difference was a sign of learning disabilities... at the time i was teaching in a christian school and didn't have the resources i do now... sad huh?.... my son tends to blame me for his struggles ... but when he has a success i am the first he calls so it tends to balance out...lyn

(((bchlyn )))))))))))))))))))
I knew nothing of the system at that time
At the time I did not even know I was fighting a system
At that point I was just trying to make them see ....
As you know is the hardest thing
I did learn after awhile it forsure was a system...
very sad

My Dr. Told me thats how you get them to say its a LD
I was so very blessed with him.
I am so sorry you have had it so tough
You are a amazing Mom
Be so very proud of yourself
And yes they do tend to blame us
But that is just angre and fustration....
(((((gotta love them))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

[bchlyn]

yup... guess all we can do is keep moving forward...lyn

((((((((((bchlyn )))))))))))))))))))))))))
I am going to pray that your son sees what a good mom you are always
You mattered so much in his life
You really cared
You kept him moving forward
(((((((you matter)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
(((((((((you mattered in his life )))))))

[bchlyn]

ty...i think he really know that... but his dad isn't being truthful about things and the boys have a hard time... they love him even though he has hurt them... i am kind of in a no win situation... if i tell them the truth it will hurt them... if i don't their dad can continue his lies... lyn

[nowheretorun]

i am still praying for the children lyn... when i was young, parents sometimes kept things from the children ... said it was for our own good...

as a father, i chose to be honest with my son in all things... that is very hard to do when they are young, but i wanted to set him off on the correct path...

have you heard of 'honest to a fault'? at times life feels that way...

i hope and pray the children grow healthy with all best opportunities before them....

[bchlyn]

ty... i agree that you need to be honest with your kids... it's just hard to correct the lies they are being told when i know the truth will hurt them, so deeply... your son is very lucky to have a dad who cares so much about them... my kids dad uses them to meet his needs... and has hurt them deeply with little care or acknowledgement... i just can't add to that pain...lyn

[nowheretorun]

in truth lyn, the truth and honesty are difficult at times... the problem with lies is that they tend to throw all things good out of focus.... its very hard finding that focus again once surrendered.... blessings to you aways...

((((Bchlyn))))),
What a great post! I teach special education (grade 2) and try to advocate for these students as much as I can. You say that your son has ADD, I'm just curious (no pressure to answer), does he take medication for this?

What are his plans now that he has a GED? Now students who have the ADD label can receive special education services under the Other Health Impaired label (OHI). I know your son is 28, but it is good for you to know this if he ever wanted to attend college. I suspect that he could have an IEP with accommodations for college if he chose to do so.

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Wow! Lyn, do you realize what an amazing feat you've accomplished? You've clearly made a huge impact (positively) on your son's life! I was very moved by your post.

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It sounds like a huge success for both of you! I applaud your courage and tenacity. Congratulations! I wish both of you the best.

[Angel_of_the_Past]

(((bchlyn )))

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What a great post! I teach special education (grade 2) and try to advocate for these students as much as I can. You say that your son has ADD, I'm just curious (no pressure to answer), does he take medication for this?

What are his plans now that he has a GED? Now students who have the ADD label can receive special education services under the Other Health Impaired label (OHI). I know your son is 28, but it is good for you to know this if he ever wanted to attend college. I suspect that he could have an IEP with accommodations for college if he chose to do so.

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Wow! Lyn, do you realize what an amazing feat you've accomplished? You've clearly made a huge impact (positively) on your son's life! I was very moved by your post.

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this might sound like a small success but for my son it was huge... for me it was even bigger

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It sounds like a huge success for both of you! I applaud your courage and tenacity. Congratulations! I wish both of you the best.

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(((bchlyn ))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
I totally agree with this post
You have been there for your son all the way
Dealing with all the things you have ...
You have made such a difference in his life
((((((((((bchlyn and son)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

[KathyM]

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Hi Lyn

My mother was angry and abusive towards me, and she was bitter about life. She blamed it all on me because she didn't know what was wrong with her or why she couldn't function like everyone else. Her symptoms appeared around the time I was born and doctors had previously warned her not to have any more children, so she figured my birth triggered her problems.

It turned out she had an illness called familial amyloidosis. It was just a coincidence that my birth coincided with the onset of her symptoms.

I grew to hate my mother too. Even after she was diagnosed, we continued to hate each other. I didn't believe her story about being the "only one in the US," especially since I worked for doctors at the time and had access to the medical library. There was no mention of her illness anywhere.

After she died, I was left holding the ball. I found out I have the same illness - gee, thanks, mom.

I spent some time crying in my soup, but then I realized it is what it is. I can cry all I want about the past, but it will never change what happened. It simply made me who I am today. It's my responsibility to keep on trying to live in a good way, baggage and all.

I no longer blame my mom. She tried very hard to live. If she would have been given the chance, I suspect she would have been a GREAT mom to me.

The same goes for your son. What happened, happened. It's our responsibility to play the cards we are dealt in this life. Sometimes our most painful memories of the past serve to give us strength later on in life.

I'll keep you and your son in my prayers - oh, and the other kids too.

((((kathyM)))))))))))))))))))))))
"The same goes for your son. What happened, happened. It's our responsibility to play the cards we are dealt in this life. Sometimes our most painful memories of the past serve to give us strength later on in life."

your a very wise person
muffy

((((Muffy)))))),

Yes, unfortunately the system is not as it should be. I'm so sorry that it negatively impacted you and your child.

A learning disability diagnosis is determined by testing a student for his/her predicted achievement and his/her actual achievement. When there is a large enough discrepancy between the two scores (in my state, 20 points or greater) or between two subsets in each test, a child can be labeled with a learning disability . Interestingly, I often see that students with AD/HD often score poorly in Written Expression and Mathematical Calculation, IMO due to the specific traits of AD/HD. However, oftentimes the student is given an LD label because they have the intelligence but are not meeting their expected achievement. I think the diagnosis is important because the techniques for remediation are different. You sound like a wonderful person, BTW If you ever need IEP help, feel free to PM me! Take care.