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Old Jun 10, 2012, 05:10 PM
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i first of all would like to thank everyone for the lack of response ive been getting on my responses&posts. yes. thanks...
i feel alone. what can i say?...seriously.

second.
i got some lab work done.
and btw i read a thread in the schizoaffective about head pressure.
i get that. and dizziness-all the time.
i got lab work back and it said my cholesterol is 10 points below. mean anything?
also that my carbon dioxide levels are low. whats that mean?
i get lots of pain up my neck and in my brain. either dulling pain or shooting pain. well not lots but some ALL the time. like often.

third.
i dont understand at this moment why im being followed.
while i did. i have a feeling they are getting me on something new.
but what did i do?
i feel like i criminal..but what did i do?
im starting to feel literally like a criminal.
they are all watching my expressions. interpretting them.PI's.
im scared. very scared. every where i go.
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Old Jun 10, 2012, 05:16 PM
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i first of all would like to thank everyone for the lack of response ive been getting on my responses&posts. yes. thanks...
i feel alone. what can i say?...seriously.
Sorry you're feeling alone. Sometimes I don't know what to respond, which is why I'm silent. Maybe other people feel the same way?

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i got lab work back and it said my cholesterol is 10 points below. mean anything?
Is this something you could ask the doctor about? I have no idea about cholesterol, but this is one of those cases where the doctors are likely to give you good advice.

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also that my carbon dioxide levels are low. whats that mean?
Also sounds like a question better put to a doctor! Or maybe Google will have answers you will find helpful, like:
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/e...cle/003469.htm

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third.
i dont understand at this moment why im being followed.
while i did. i have a feeling they are getting me on something new.
but what did i do?
i feel like i criminal..but what did i do?
im starting to feel literally like a criminal.
they are all watching my expressions. interpretting them.PI's.
im scared. very scared. every where i go.
That sounds very frightening and disconcerting. I'm afraid I haven't got any answers for you. But if you want to vent, I'm often around.
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Old Jun 10, 2012, 05:44 PM
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I have been going through this for several years.
I even had somebody in a white SUV chase me. Then they just backed off like it was nothing. I put foil on my windows, I thought it would prevent them from seeing what I do on my computer.I'm not doing anything wrong, so everybody says not to worry.

I have paranoid thoughts all the time. Even with all the meds I'm on. It can be very scary at times. I feel like a criminal too. I got pulled over by the cops for no reason. They wanted to search my truck. I said go ahead if it makes you feel better. The bastard had the nerve to tell me I should move to a different county.The kind of sz I have is paranoid type. I think they already knew what they were going to do.They were looking for drugs. Three of them.


He said the reason they pulled me over, was because I pulled out on to the road, and did not put my headlights on soon enough.I can't stand abused authority. These cops are people just like us, but who enforces the law with them. Nobody.......so they get away with murder.That is until they are kicked off the force.

Sorry for the ranting. I do hope you will get better. It's good to know that somebody has hope for you. Get well soon.
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Old Jun 10, 2012, 06:24 PM
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ugh...i prob have diabetes or kidney disease.

i know im prob not overworrying. those are real worries. given my history and family history and other problems im having.
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Old Jun 10, 2012, 06:47 PM
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I worry about diabetes too, because a lot of people in my family have it. Do you feel OK to ask your doctor about it?
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Old Jun 10, 2012, 07:02 PM
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i just had 2 panic attacks thinking about all this stuff just now. i almost vomited.

this. cant do this.
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Old Jun 11, 2012, 12:58 PM
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Hey newtus. If you do have diabetes it can be well controlled or even cleared away with the right diet and exercise, maybe meds like Metformin/Glucophage, so you may not even need shots. If you're concerned about it talk with your doctor, and consider dieting and exercising to prevent it if you don't have it yet.
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Old Jun 11, 2012, 01:08 PM
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It's really difficult to deal with physical health problems in addition to mental health concerns. I'm sorry you may have to deal with that. Sometimes though when you get the body healthier, it's amazing how much better the mind feels. Maybe if you have physical health issues to be addressed, you will begin to feel better overall. And don't be afraid to ask doctors and nurses to explain test results if you don't understand. Sometimes they forget that the average person doesn't know as much medical terminology, or have as much medical knowledge as they do. You have the right to ask questions, and to have them help you understand everything you need to know about your health.
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Old Jun 11, 2012, 01:56 PM
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i got lab work back and it said my cholesterol is 10 points below. mean anything?
also that my carbon dioxide levels are low. whats that mean?
You can research that kind of thing online these days. I'm just really glad to hear you've had a physical. One of the things that irritates me about mental health folks is how they sometimes dx a mental illness without checking for physical causes.
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Old Jun 11, 2012, 02:04 PM
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You can research that kind of thing online these days. I'm just really glad to hear you've had a physical. One of the things that irritates me about mental health folks is how they sometimes dx a mental illness without checking for physical causes.
Are they supposed to check for physical causes? I've never had that done.
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Old Jun 11, 2012, 03:01 PM
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Are they supposed to check for physical causes? I've never had that done.
I think they should. I'm not saying a physical cause can be found very often, but it should be eliminated if possible IMO.
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Old Jun 11, 2012, 03:06 PM
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Stories like these disturb me:

I have coworker who had a sister-in-law dx'd with bipolar. Incredibly unstable. Had a hard time holding a job or maintaining a relationship. Very unhappy woman.

One day she passes out. Her bf finds her and gets her to the hospital where she recovers, but they can't figure out what's wrong with her.

A year later she passes out again. This time no one finds her. She dies. She's about 40 years old.

Four months after she died they finally figure out she had diabetes! Diabetes! The woman died of diabetes. And she was a serious hypochondriac. Always at the doctor.

Now I have to wonder how much of her bipolar disease wasn't just unstable blood sugar. Certainly it couldn't have helped.
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Old Jun 11, 2012, 03:09 PM
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My God, that's a horrible story. I can't believe that went undiscovered.
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Old Jun 11, 2012, 03:12 PM
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@costello: ANY person brought to an ER or dr's office for fainting should have their blood glucose tested! It's an incredibly simple test, and you can have the results in less than 5 minutes.
It's so sad they didn't run this simple test to save her life.
As a note, my wife is both diabetic (type 1) and bipolar. There is a huge difference between the symptoms of each, but I recognize I may just feel that way because I know her so well.
@everyone else: physical health problems should absolutely be considered!!! I hope that everyone here is healthy, of course, but there are many symptoms which may appear psychiatric in nature that are actually the result of physical health problems. Having these problems ruled out is, I feel, essential.
(btw I am being a horrible hypocrite right now, as I HATE going to the dr! But I still believe it's true.)
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Old Jun 11, 2012, 03:25 PM
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I've long since given up trying to get anything useful out of real doctors. I could have every disease known to man (like Mr. Burns!) and nobody would ever know. It's just curious, because nobody ever checked me for any physical problems. Except they weighed me an awful lot -- I wonder what that was all about?
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Old Jun 11, 2012, 03:27 PM
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As a note, my wife is both diabetic (type 1) and bipolar. There is a huge difference between the symptoms of each, but I recognize I may just feel that way because I know her so well.
I know I get really grumpy when I haven't eaten, or extremely lethargic when I eat anything sweet, and really jumpy when I have too much caffeine. That seems to be amplified in people I know with type II diabetes.

But I can imagine that somebody who was not thinking -- or who was trained to view the world through the "psychiatric" lens, like a MH professional -- might mistake it for some kind of bipolar.
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Old Jun 11, 2012, 03:28 PM
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I agree, there's no excuse for not discovering her illness sooner - like any time before she actually died.

I have the impression she was a very unlikable person. My coworker certainly didn't like her - and seems to have gained no compassion since her death. And she had a reputation for being a hypochrondiac. In my experience, either a psych dx or the hypochondriac thing is likely to get you written off as a whiner by doctors. Add middle aged woman and you have a triple play.

I think she had type II diabetes. She had been obese at one point but managed to lose down to a normal weight and maintained the weight loss for many years. A feat in itself.
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Old Jun 11, 2012, 03:38 PM
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But I can imagine that somebody who was not thinking -- or who was trained to view the world through the "psychiatric" lens, like a MH professional -- might mistake it for some kind of bipolar.
I can see it too. Before I went on a low carb diet, my moods were pretty unstable. I had terrible hypoglycemic-like episodes a few hours after eating - especially anything with sugar. Weepiness, irritability, confusion, rages. It was awful. And sometimes quite extreme.

I finally figured out that if I wanted sugar I had to have it at bedtime, so I could "sleep it off."

Yes, I can easily imagine that if I'd gone to a pdoc I might have been diagnosed as bipolar. And I know that doctors wouldn't have figured it out, because periodically I'd go see a doctor for the extreme fatigue I was feeling. They'd run some blood tests and tell me I was fine.
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Old Jun 11, 2012, 03:42 PM
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Yes, I can easily imagine that if I'd gone to a pdoc I might have been diagnosed as bipolar. And I know that doctors wouldn't have figured it out, because periodically I'd go see a doctor for the extreme fatigue I was feeling. They'd run some blood tests and tell me I was fine.
I've pretty much sorted that any mood-related symptoms I might have are related to my period, as is (probably) my chronic pain. (I'm unsure because the pain came up right after the electroshocks and it's in my head/neck.)

No doctor ever would have figured that out, though. I have no idea if they even accept it as a possibility; but the certainly never asked. I even mentioned once that the drugs made my period stop [and maybe that's why I was feeling a bit better] and they said I was just "to ill" to remember when I got it.
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And I know that doctors wouldn't have figured it out, because periodically I'd go see a doctor for the extreme fatigue I was feeling. They'd run some blood tests and tell me I was fine.
Come to think of it, one doctor did finally put me on an antidepressant. I was so exhausted. When the nurse practitioner walked into the examining room, I was kind of slumped forward in the chair. I remember she looked at me, looked away, then did a quick double take. She could see I wasn't well, but the blood tests all came back normal. She talked me into an antidepressant. I was a hard sell but eventually I took it. I was on it for a couple of years, and it was a bear to get off of because I'd have anxiety attacks when I quit.

Eventually I did quit by tapering off very slowly. I can't remember now if it was before or after I went low carb.

You know when I think about this stuff, it seriously irritates me. Personally I think anyone with any kind of psych dx should try cutting way back on sugar for a while and see what happens. It can't hurt, and it might help.
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I want to cut waaaay back on sugar, but it's one of my biggest problems. (As are carbohydrates generally.) I can hardly stay away for more than a half a day before I semi-mindlessly eat something sweet. And that is in spite of the rest of my diet being pretty damn healthy.

So how did you beat it in the end?
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Also, I am suspicious the attitude of doctors that if there is something wrong and they can't work out the cause, they give antidepressants. What the hell is up with that??
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I've pretty much sorted that any mood-related symptoms I might have are related to my period, as is (probably) my chronic pain. ...
You know it's interesting you mention that. I've had back pain since my pregnancy when I was 23. It spread to my hip, and I figured I'd be in pain for life. Well, a few years ago it cleared up. No pain. It was amazing.

In April I started my high fish diet. I've let lots of grains creep back in. And sugar. And my back and hip pain mysteriously returned. It's awful. It's not as bad as it was before, but now I'm wondering if it eventually will be if I don't kick the refined carbs and sugar out again.

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No doctor ever would have figured that out, though. I have no idea if they even accept it as a possibility; but the certainly never asked. I even mentioned once that the drugs made my period stop [and maybe that's why I was feeling a bit better] and they said I was just "to ill" to remember when I got it.
Good God!
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Old Jun 11, 2012, 03:57 PM
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You know it's interesting you mention that. I've had back pain since my pregnancy when I was 23. It spread to my hip, and I figured I'd be in pain for life. Well, a few years ago it cleared up. No pain. It was amazing.

In April I started my high fish diet. I've let lots of grains creep back in. And sugar. And my back and hip pain mysteriously returned. It's awful. It's not as bad as it was before, but now I'm wondering if it eventually will be if I don't kick the refined carbs and sugar out again.
That's really odd you mention this!! I've had this really strong sense for quite a while that I have been pregnant before but had a miscarriage and I place that right about the time I was first hospitalised -- so the same time as the first rapes AND the ECT. But I figured it was one of my delusions. Also I'd be surprised if pregnancies caused neck pain.

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Would you be surprised if I told you the doctor was a man?
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