One out of Three

RunningEagleRuns · Dec 02, 2012, 06:17 PM

I hear one out of three people with schizophrenia attempt suicide. How does this make you feel.. It's like I'm going against the stats..

xXSkitty KittyXx · Dec 02, 2012, 06:30 PM

Ive tried 4 times.....

RunningEagleRuns · Dec 02, 2012, 06:33 PM

Have you gotten any help for it? I hope you feel better.

What would you say to someone else who is suicidal?

xXSkitty KittyXx · Dec 02, 2012, 06:55 PM

Ive tried to get help and no one will listen..... I don't give advice....

RunningEagleRuns · Dec 02, 2012, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by xXSkitty KittyXx

Ive tried to get help and no one will listen..... I don't give advice....

I can try to listen.. Message me if you want.

Gr3tta · Dec 02, 2012, 11:08 PM

it makes me sad that so many people are so tormented by their symptoms and lives that they would want their life to end. or, that they are so desperate for someone to notice they need help that this is the only way they can seek it.
i don't really think i ever made a real and true attempt, but have often engaged in dangerous and self injurious behaviors, indifferent to consequences. although in my case i don't think it has ever been in response to voices. there is only one very dangerous behavior i engage in due to voice influence. otherwise, i have always considered myself better off with them than without them.

ickydog2006 · Dec 02, 2012, 11:33 PM

I've already attempted in the past so now I try to act like, been there, done that... moving on. What I would tell other people... I don't know. I trust the Bible and God and although I can't understand why He created me this way and doesn't take this burden from me, then He must have a plan and purpose for it, all I have to do is try and make it through.

brackenbeard · Dec 03, 2012, 03:34 AM

it makes me think like the whole world is messed up. it makes me feel sad. i think people reach a point where it's not just wishy-washy passive ideas of killing yourself, and the pain has become too acute to continue. that's a terrible place for anyone.

i often think of suicide. i have no plans though. i got this far. i can make a better life for myself. i can enjoy life. but damn is it ruff out here, sometimes....

RunningEagleRuns · Dec 03, 2012, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by brackenbeard

it makes me think like the whole world is messed up. it makes me feel sad. i think people reach a point where it's not just wishy-washy passive ideas of killing yourself, and the pain has become too acute to continue. that's a terrible place for anyone.

i often think of suicide. i have no plans though. i got this far. i can make a better life for myself. i can enjoy life. but damn is it ruff out here, sometimes....

agreed. i just hope i dont give in. i have no plans too. im suicidal cuz the stupid voices wont let me do anything...

faerie_moon_x · Dec 03, 2012, 03:32 PM

Well, I don't have schizophrenia but I've battled suicide since I was twelve. I think suicidal ideation is really the same in all illnesses that have it as a symptom. That's the first thing you need to remember about suicide, it's a symptom of the bigger illness and not an illness in itself. It's like a fever. You can surely die from a fever but it's not the actual illness, the fever is caused by an infection of some type.

So, just like a fever, suicidal thoughts are temporary. They can be treated as you treat the illness. As you start to find stability suicidal thoughts back off. The more you are "well" the less you have them, and even when you do have them, they are weaker and weaker. If you're having powerful suicidal thoughts that are difficult to fight, that's when you know you're in trouble and need help.

Also, suicial thoughts are not lies that your brain is telling you. I say it's like having a demon in your head that's whispering all these terrible things to you. But they are all lies. I have come to equate these thoughts to similar to delusions. They are powerful. You can argue with someone who is suicidal all day and they will argue back how worthless they are, and you can't seem to get through to them. Just like a delusion, the person having it can believe it 100%, and hard to argue them out of it.

I think it's important to start envisioning yourself as powerful. You are a warrior. Envision that as you want. I see myself as a knight on a white horse. I have my sword, my bow, my big sheild to protect me. It reflects the evil lies of the suicide demon. I envision that I carry the light of life within me, and that light is important to the people in my life: my kids, my husband, my dad. This helps me when I am struggling with my battles.

For me, hearing that 30% of all people with bipolar will suceed at suicide, that does make me sad. But it reminds me that this is a real illness with real consequences, and death is one of those. It makes me want to fight and not be a statistic. I want to be in the group that lives and shows others that they can win the fight, too.

RunningEagleRuns · Dec 03, 2012, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by dark_heart_x

Well, I don't have schizophrenia but I've battled suicide since I was twelve. I think suicidal ideation is really the same in all illnesses that have it as a symptom. That's the first thing you need to remember about suicide, it's a symptom of the bigger illness and not an illness in itself. It's like a fever. You can surely die from a fever but it's not the actual illness, the fever is caused by an infection of some type.

So, just like a fever, suicidal thoughts are temporary. They can be treated as you treat the illness. As you start to find stability suicidal thoughts back off. The more you are "well" the less you have them, and even when you do have them, they are weaker and weaker. If you're having powerful suicidal thoughts that are difficult to fight, that's when you know you're in trouble and need help.

Also, suicial thoughts are not lies that your brain is telling you. I say it's like having a demon in your head that's whispering all these terrible things to you. But they are all lies. I have come to equate these thoughts to similar to delusions. They are powerful. You can argue with someone who is suicidal all day and they will argue back how worthless they are, and you can't seem to get through to them. Just like a delusion, the person having it can believe it 100%, and hard to argue them out of it.

I think it's important to start envisioning yourself as powerful. You are a warrior. Envision that as you want. I see myself as a knight on a white horse. I have my sword, my bow, my big sheild to protect me. It reflects the evil lies of the suicide demon. I envision that I carry the light of life within me, and that light is important to the people in my life: my kids, my husband, my dad. This helps me when I am struggling with my battles.

For me, hearing that 30% of all people with bipolar will suceed at suicide, that does make me sad. But it reminds me that this is a real illness with real consequences, and death is one of those. It makes me want to fight and not be a statistic. I want to be in the group that lives and shows others that they can win the fight, too.

that was encouraging, thanks. i dont want to do it either.. my mom would flip

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