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Old Dec 18, 2012, 07:38 AM
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I'm on facebook a lot of comments are how their kids are excited for christmas - it's cool - I always was when I was younger.

Now today - I see 2 pictures, one about media lies and one about the pharmaceutical industry creating customers not cures.

I think medication helps a lot of people with various things, just because I don't take meds - doesn't mean I'm anti-meds

The other 1 - well everyone should know that.

You see though this is to me - because she thinks I will agree, but I'm not going to comment or like - they are not going to reel me in. Or maybe I should comment - because I see what they are doing.

The point of my post is be aware of fake friends - that will try to trick you.
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Old Dec 18, 2012, 07:53 AM
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One thing to me a different opinion to someone else.

Well I can see through it - they are not going to use me.
Keep your enemies closer - yeah
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Old Dec 18, 2012, 08:13 AM
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Now today - I see 2 pictures, one about media lies and one about the pharmaceutical industry creating customers not cures.
Those may be true -- but they are not the only things that are true. There still is warmth and goodness, if you can calm yourself enough to look for it.
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Old Dec 18, 2012, 08:26 AM
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Well we all know about the media lies - but should we get rid of every single medication in the entire world, maybe people with cancer should just cure themselves with tomatoes as well yeah.

Now the other day - she agreed it was the government - you know what it is now - schizophrenia - because obviously they must be killers right
WTF world is she living in.
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Old Dec 18, 2012, 08:29 AM
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Think that friendship has ended.
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Old Dec 18, 2012, 10:44 AM
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Friends are very tricky. I'm very cautious about friends actually, because of what happened to me. People I was so sure had my back, they didn't. In fact, quite the oposite. On facebook my only "friends" are family members, and even then they are not fully trustworthy. I was one of those lucky people who ended up as the blacksheep of the family, as they say.

So I agree there is a lot of lies in the media. I agree that there are pharmaceutical companies trying to build customers and not patients. Cholesterol medication is one of these. Yes, cholesterol medication is needed in certain circumstances, but many many times that medication can be avoided by learning proper diet and exercise and sticking to it. I bet there are a lot more people who, with proper education and a proper support system (like seeing a dietitian regularly,) would be able to avoid those meds. But an insurance company will pay for a cholesterol and blood pressure med every time, they will deny a patient to see a dietitian. Which one do you think the patient wants? The one that is covered. So it's not really just a pharmaceutical issue, at least not here in the states. But that's an example.

As for mental health meds, I think it is case-by-case in the end. Risk vs. Reward, who is helped vs. who is not or things like that.
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Old Dec 18, 2012, 12:20 PM
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Yeah - it's just if they're going to include every medication, my nana would die if she didn't take the meds for her heart - so how can that be a bad thing, you know.

My nurse told me about some one she used to see, once she started on meds, she managed to get back to uni and she didn't want to come off them, when they started reducing it - she is getting on with her life - so that's good.

I just think people shouldn't encourage people to stop meds or not try to take them, if they might help.
That is what annoyed me about it.
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Old Dec 18, 2012, 01:26 PM
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I agree with you. You have to make your own decision but you shouldn't try to convince others that your decision is correct for you. There are helpful medicines in all fields, and some people need them, some don't. Some have bad reaction to one, others won't. We all have our body chemestry and we all have to find what works for us.

If being on medicine helps you get back into life, then that's not a bad thing. You may only need it temporarily or you may need it long term. Either way, it is what is best for you so that you can lead life without major disruptions.
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Old Dec 18, 2012, 01:51 PM
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It's a balancing act. You have to know what treatments are available - medication and non-medication - and decide what's right for you.

I have a coworker who's pre-diabetic. His parents both died of diabetes. And he was a very good to son to them. He lived with them while they were ill and cared for them. His dad practically died in his arms. After his mother was moved to a hospital and then a nursing home, he visited her daily. He spent hours there.

So, he saw what the diabetes did to them. But, still he won't change his diet or lifestyle. He just says, "Give me the meds." That's his right, of course, but some people might make a different choice.

I have two other coworkers who are diabetic. I asked the one lady - who takes 7 medications and weighs over 350 pounds - what her doctor says about diet and exercise. She said her doctor never even mentions it. Maybe her doctor is discouraged by so many patients who aren't willing to change, but I still think every patient should be told of lifestyle changes they can make which might keep them off medication, or make the medication lower.

You see this with type II diabetes, high blood pressure, etc. Maybe that's what your facebook friend was talking about?

It doesn't make sense to get rid of all meds, of course. That's just silly.
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Old Dec 18, 2012, 02:33 PM
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Yeah pro's and cons to make a good decision

She posted them for me to see though - it was manipulation.

" I thought that post was confirming what you've been saying."

Anyway meds - just take them if you really need them, don't make them all bad.
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Old Dec 20, 2012, 12:35 AM
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Well we all know about the media lies - but should we get rid of every single medication in the entire world, maybe people with cancer should just cure themselves with tomatoes as well yeah.
Real Organic Tomatoes would be good, but perhaps for cancer they should use Sour Sop and THC Containing hemp oil. I want to see someone actually give this a try, preferably someone I might know so I can keep updated on the progress, but that is unlikely to happen. The cancer industry has spent a lot of money on research and of course they want to make a **** load of money on it, could be why none of these cures ever reach the media (if they are legit cures, and I believe there are some out there). 'Cancer Industry'? Yes. They are a business before anything, that quote about Big Pharma and others making customers not cures is the truth. We do not have cures for much, we have life long treatments for most things. You will very rarely see a doctor recommend natural alternatives because they need to write prescriptions to keep Big Pharma afloat.

Big Pharma is loving GMO's too. They tamper with the genetic code so the plants can handle the pesticides and herbicides they spray. We then get plants that are creating strange proteins that our bodies are not familiar with AND we have our crops practically drenched in pest/herbicides. Hmm, I wonder why there's so much illness out there.

I don't deny that some meds help some people. But I am sure we could come up with better alternatives than concocting some chemical substance in a lab and getting people to ingest it. What are those unnatural substances doing to our brain/body?
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Old Dec 20, 2012, 05:51 AM
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Well my post was about manipulation, but anyway - if every single person in the world stopped thier medication - would a natural alternative help all them.
Should my aunty have ignored medical advice and let cancer kill her earlier?

Should someone that is seriously depressed - not try any medication and just jump off a bridge instead.

I'm not saying everyone should happily swallow every pill - but if that person is sick why watch them die.
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Old Dec 20, 2012, 09:37 AM
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Should someone that is seriously depressed - not try any medication and just jump off a bridge instead.
i tried that.
didnt work.
didnt even get to get off the rail before the pol1ce grabbed me.
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