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Old Dec 27, 2012, 06:31 PM
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Old Dec 27, 2012, 08:33 PM
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Old Jan 05, 2013, 03:53 PM
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Old Sep 13, 2013, 06:14 AM
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It's disturbing that a psychiatrist - who admits in his own letter that he's violating an ethical standard of his own profession - implies that Adam Lanza had sz. There's been zero evidence presented of that. He's speculating.

I'll agree that Cho, Loughner, and Holmes did. But the Columbine shooters didn't. And more importantly, tons of people with sz never hurt anyone. Do we have a really good way of knowing who will and who won't? Shall we lock them all up?
Hi Costello, I know this is an old post. I wanted to bring up that it is now known that Adam Lanza had a personality disorder, aspergers, and probably violent tendencies as proven by family member and brother. He was just a sick angry person, not a schizophrenic. Schizophrenics are not typically angry but we can get frustrated by symptoms if untreated, and if we have no support. I tend to try and work through my frustration but it's also good to let it go often that's the best remedy.
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Old Sep 13, 2013, 06:17 AM
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It's disturbing that a psychiatrist - who admits in his own letter that he's violating an ethical standard of his own profession - implies that Adam Lanza had sz. There's been zero evidence presented of that. He's speculating.

I'll agree that Cho, Loughner, and Holmes did. But the Columbine shooters didn't. And more importantly, tons of people with sz never hurt anyone. Do we have a really good way of knowing who will and who won't? Shall we lock them all up?
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Maybe we need a trigger icon on this thread?
I know, the thread did become more triggering over this discussion. But it's good to at least make our thoughts heard on this issue.

The statistics suggest this: untreated psychological problems are bad for people. But, while it does not point directly to it that can make it harder to cope with a chemical imbalance and can exaggerate stress. Esp since most of these cases were people who had: Personality disorders, sociopathic tendancies, narcissism, and untreated psychological trauma and poor background for support and wellness. I don't think Adam was in distress. My analysis is that he was calm, cool-headed, and collected which are traits of a psychopath not a schizophrenic. He had a psychopathic outburst because of his living situation.

The mind is a fragile thing, and we need to protect it and value our minds not treat each other as objects. If more people were grown up with the notion that compassion defeats all, above religious brainwashing and militaristic stuff than less people would do this crazy stuff. I think it's more of a sociological issue than a mental health issue. Which is frustrating because "imbalance" is easy to describe disorder and chaos in society, but does not fully correct our issues if we blame the brain not the actual person and hold them responsible.
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Old Sep 13, 2013, 06:32 AM
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Anyone who commits such atrocities will deff display psychotic behavior, but not necessarily is that relevant to actual schizophrenia which is different. Plain and simple, the profile is different between the two: schizophrenia to me, is basically a form of toxic repression. There are unconcious elements: fear, self-esteem, guilt, betrayal--that dwell and exist within the sub-area of the brain. REM state is when the brain collects data from the conscious to the sub conscious and unconscious state. In the subconscious state we have the EGO driving our decisions and layers of personality, that binds the conscious--active waking output state to the: unconscious--sleeping, receiving, recycling state.

So basically if people could wrap their minds around this we'd have no more of the "crazies" . There is a fundamental flaw when the ego-driven impulses or complex data in the mind/brain restricts the unconscious from properly acting out its need and desire.

Meaning that everyone has a hidden force, a self, and that nothing can take that away from you--no amount of medicine can take away your core integral self, no matter how convoluted and warped it can be programmed to be due to shapes in society we can't fit into, that will always be the surface--the inner workings of the mind are untouchable, and connecting all aspects can change and shape you into a better person.

The unconscious is the (dark, tranquil, lucid, elusive sea) of experience and impression, while the subconscious, the web of perception and judgement, lastly the awareness state r waking conscious is the direct spark of light surfacing from these elements making the three work in harmony. We have a duty to tell our minds that we need to be healthy.
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Old Sep 13, 2013, 07:01 AM
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What's really sad about that opinion story was it was written by a psychiatrist! Obviously he suffers from pathologizing personality disorder
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Old Sep 14, 2013, 12:11 AM
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but what about those few or small percentage that ARE violent and still out there but havent done anything huge...yet.

just a challenge question. im not trying to be mean. but...rather start a conversation...or at least keep one going.
My mom tried to kill a number of people including all her husbands and children and i think she did kill our brother but she is also just a not very nice person and she also had
Open head injury as a child and she wanted the 200k of our brother's life insurance too.
So it isn't schizophrenia alone that makes her dangerous but when you add it to her history and psychopathic nature where she has no regard for others - she is really dangerous.
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Old Sep 14, 2013, 07:34 AM
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Well,

It is sad when this happens. I shudder to see it , but unfortunately it does happen , very rarely I may add. That's why that young people struggling with mental health issues need a broad range of education and support , I think the current push in society for more understanding in this area is very important.
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Old Sep 14, 2013, 11:51 PM
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I had a friend and classmate who was schizophrenic and killed someone before later killing himself in prison. But there were extreme warning signs. He told people that the voices were telling him to do this and he couldn't handle it anymore, he had to. His sisters locked him in a room and called the police. The police said they were too busy. The next day is when he killed the person (who was someone he loved and is one of the few people who showed him love). And it still hurts so much to think that the media spin made it out like he was this horrible awful crazed schizo, when he wasn't, and he would have been compliant with medication if it had been available to him and/or if they had locked him up. The police were warned and chose not to treat it as important; I know my friend is the one who did the crime but with all these warning signs, I feel the system is largely to blame. I know often they arn't, especially for those who hide their thoughts and intended actions, but what good is it if there are warning signs and no one is willing to help.
!!!!!!THANK YOU!!!!!! my mom actually has killed and continually hurt people and needs help but it's expensive to keep an eye on her or keep her in hospital and no one cares. Police knows she most probably killed my brother but didn't test her for gunpowder and it was easier to just rule it a suicide. Sometimes the world sucks. No one cares about my mom ir that she is dangerous to herself or others.

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Old Sep 15, 2013, 04:49 PM
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I'm just realizing that people are seriously afraid of me. Family/friends...even though I haven't been psychotic since dec. 1st, 2010, they're still afraid of me. I didn't know it would take so long to win back trust, but I think that's what's going on. On FB I'm friends with just a few people that I've know since childhood and they don't comment on anything I post except stuff about my son. I have to watch my language with people,too, I use colorful language and those that know about my break look at me weird.
I wish ppl understood that it's much more common for ppl with a mental illness to be the VICTIM of a crime rather than the PERPETRATOR. I've never been violent in my life...my uncle told me that when I was delusional my (now dead) mother was afraid to go home after work because she thought I was going to hurt her, and she lived 8hours away. She's gone now and it kills me to think she thought I would hurt her.
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theres some people who i have came into contact with during psychotic episodes and they ignore me now. actually neighbors.
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theres some people who i have came into contact with during psychotic episodes and they ignore me now. actually neighbors.
I had people treat me like I'm a joke or a thing and not a human being
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