Bad sleep 'dramatically' alters body

faerie_moon_x · Feb 27, 2013, 04:12 PM

Actually costello, you get carbs from many sources. Yes, your body Needs carbs, in bold with a capitol N.The fuel the brain requires is glucose, which comes from carbs. Different people can process carbs differently, there are actually studies on this. But unless you are an eskimo with the proper genetic make up of an eskimo, then that diet may not be the best idea.

And yes, you can burn keytones, but this is a starvations mechanism in the body and it can make you severly ill. It is one of the major risk factors of people with type one diabetes and it's very deadly. It's called ketoacidosis. It's caused by the fact that people with type one diabetes cannot process carbs because they do not produce the insulin to do so.

Here is a link to a picture of JL (This picture may be very disturbing, be cautious if pictures of a small child in great pain may trigger you). He is one of the first people to ever receive insulin in 1923, he was 3 years old. They did save his life, as you can see in the after picture, but this is what starvation due to your body not receiving it's proper fuel looks like.
http://cdn2-b.examiner.com/sites/def...-insulin_2.jpg

I posted a link instead of a picture on purpose. We have this picture in a book in our office.

costello · Feb 27, 2013, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by dark_heart_x

Actually costello, you get carbs from many sources. Yes, your body Needs carbs, in bold with a capitol N.

I'm pretty passionate about low-carb diets. I've done a lot of research on this. I've eaten low-carb myself for years, and my health has improved. My doctor has recommended low-carb for me. It distresses me to see misinformation repeated. Especially if it might scare people away from trying something that might help them.

Here's some more info - from scientific sources:

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Metabolic Effects of the Very-Low-Carbohydrate Diets: Misunderstood "Villains" of Human Metabolism

Anssi H Manninen

1Advanced Research Press, Inc., New York, USA
Bad sleep 'dramatically' alters body

Corresponding author.
Anssi H Manninen: sportsnutrition@luukku.com

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Received June 22, 2004; Accepted December 10, 2004.

Abstract

During very low carbohydrate intake, the regulated and controlled production of ketone bodies causes a harmless physiological state known as dietary ketosis. Ketone bodies flow from the liver to extra-hepatic tissues (e.g., brain) for use as a fuel; this spares glucose metabolism via a mechanism similar to the sparing of glucose by oxidation of fatty acids as an alternative fuel. In comparison with glucose, the ketone bodies are actually a very good respiratory fuel. Indeed, there is no clear requirement for dietary carbohydrates for human adults. Interestingly, the effects of ketone body metabolism suggest that mild ketosis may offer therapeutic potential in a variety of different common and rare disease states. Also, the recent landmark study showed that a very-low-carbohydrate diet resulted in a significant reduction in fat mass and a concomitant increase in lean body mass in normal-weight men. Contrary to popular belief, insulin is not needed for glucose uptake and utilization in man. Finally, both muscle fat and carbohydrate burn in an amino acid flame.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2129159/

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Your Brain On Ketones
How a high-fat diet can help the brain work better
Published on April 18, 2011 by Emily Deans, M.D. in Evolutionary Psychiatry

It is true that some parts of some brain cells can only burn glucose, but fortunately our bodies can turn protein into glucose through a process known as gluconeogenesis. This fact means that while there are essential requirements for both fat or protein (meaning we would die without eating at least some fat and at least some protein), we can live quite happily while consuming no carbohydrate at all. That's not saying there aren't some disadvantages or side effects to a so-called "zero carb" diet, but it won't cause the massive health problems and death that consuming zero fat or zero protein would.

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/...-brain-ketones

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The fuel the brain requires is glucose, which comes from carbs.

The brain can be very happy on ketones. I myself have spent extended periods of times in ketosis. Your body can create glucose from protein: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gluconeogenesis

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Different people can process carbs differently, there are actually studies on this. But unless you are an eskimo with the proper genetic make up of an eskimo, then that diet may not be the best idea.

This isn't true. Europeans have lived with the Eskimos and survived for years on the their diet quite well.

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And yes, you can burn keytones, but this is a starvations mechanism in the body and it can make you severly ill. It is one of the major risk factors of people with type one diabetes and it's very deadly. It's called ketoacidosis. It's caused by the fact that people with type one diabetes cannot process carbs because they do not produce the insulin to do so.

There is a difference between ketosis and ketoacidosis. Burning ketones isn't about starvation and it won't make you severely ill. I know. I've done it. It's a perfectly natural alternative to glucose. Some say that the brain does better on ketones.

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The brain gets a portion of its energy from ketone bodies when glucose is less available (e.g., during fasting, strenuous exercise, low carbohydrate, ketogenic diet and in neonates). In the event of low blood glucose, most other tissues have additional energy sources besides ketone bodies (such as fatty acids), but the brain does not. After the diet has been changed to lower blood glucose for 3 days, the brain gets 25% of its energy from ketone bodies.[4] After about 4 days, this goes up to 70%[citation needed] (during the initial stages the brain does not burn ketones, since they are an important substrate for lipid synthesis in the brain). Furthermore, ketones produced from omega-3 fatty acids may reduce cognitive deterioration in old age.[5]

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Individuals who follow a low-carbohydrate diet will also develop ketosis, sometimes called nutritional ketosis, but the level of ketone body concentrations are on the order of 0.5-5 mM whereas the pathological ketoacidosis is 15-25 mM.

As the mainstream diet is so high in carbohydrate that ketosis is rarely seen without starvation or ketoacidosis, many practitioners mistake well regulated nutritional ketosis for pathological ketoacidosis.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ketone_bodies

faerie_moon_x · Feb 27, 2013, 06:57 PM

I don't think you understand. I work with educators who specifically teach this stuff and are constantly learning new things all the time to keep their lisencing up.

The point is to learn to eat healthier carbohydrates, such as veggitables and fruits vs. candy and white bread, not completely eliminate them from your body.

There was a lot of research on how vaccinations are dangerous, too. And it turned out to all be lies for money, and falsified information. In my experience, anyone who is a "doctor" who recommends nutrition is one of the biggest blowers of BS you can run across. And I don't say that to be mean. I also know a doctor who completely pushes being vegan, which is the exact oposite of low carb, and he's the nicest guy ever but he's totally delusional when it comes to what is really healthy for you.

The best sources of information are registered dieticians who are not in it to write a book or change the world, but to help people who actually need help with their diets, and who come up against the wall that no one is going to listen to you about diet. Those are the men and women who tell you the truth about it. Because they get nothing out of it. Even their paychecks are crap compared to the amount of work they do. I see it every day.

Anyone who uses strong words like "Villains" in the title of their work, and big words like 'everyone' or 'all,' those are the big red flags that you need to watch out for when studying about things like diet. Those are scam words.

I've been doing this for five years. Anything that makes big promises about rescuing your health or mental health or anything, is worth being extremely cautious about.

Feb 28, 2013, 04:37 AM

Maybe we are being fed processed food as a way to control us. They could be putting any rubbish in there. Did any of you watch a small (6 episode) Tv series called Utopia? It was on in the UK and our Channel 4.

http://www.channel4.com/programmes/utopia/4od

Not sure if it will work outside the UK though.

umh im trying to remember what relevance it has to this topic though.

tokiwartooth · Mar 01, 2013, 10:34 AM

When I don't get sleep I feel like I'm in a dream. I tend to hear a lot more of the voices when I get less sleep. Anyone else ever get that feeling when they don't sleep, like you're not in reality? Like you're in some alternate reality, or you're still dreaming? Then the voices come like crazy, they get much louder then.

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