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Old Jul 06, 2014, 12:29 PM
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There is concept about people's perceptions that they way they think says more about them than it does about the world. If people think you're cyberstalking it's probably because they are the kind of people who would do that and they can't understand people who just don't have that level of interest.
That's just it.

Someone came onto my page and posted this attachment that says "cyberstalking is a crime"... though she apparently has been watching my page pretty closely and interpreting everything I say as about some drama that happened awhile ago.
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Old Jul 06, 2014, 12:35 PM
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That's just it.

Someone came onto my page and posted this attachment that says "cyberstalking is a crime"... though she apparently has been watching my page pretty closely and interpreting everything I say as about some drama that happened awhile ago.
Is it a crime...? What even constitutes cyber stalking since so much of our lives are posted on public domains? I would take what she said with a grain of salt to be honest. She sounds very petty and like she wants to start drama, try and ignore it if you can.
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Old Jul 06, 2014, 01:15 PM
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Is it a crime...? What even constitutes cyber stalking since so much of our lives are posted on public domains? I would take what she said with a grain of salt to be honest. She sounds very petty and like she wants to start drama, try and ignore it if you can.
Technically it is yes. Though it's extremely difficult to prove or enforce. I am taking it with a grain of salt, it's clear that she wants to restart a drama that has been over for awhile. I am not playing that game. Nice try *****, hahahahaha.

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I can see how it would be. Someone would have to be doing some very nasty things to actually be prosecuted for it, I'd imagine. Haha, yeah, don't let it get to you.

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Old Jul 06, 2014, 01:53 PM
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I can see how it would be. Someone would have to be doing some very nasty things to actually be prosecuted for it, I'd imagine. Haha, yeah, don't let it get to you.

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Exactly. I have not done anything like that. This whole thing is just laughable, truly.
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Old Jul 06, 2014, 03:28 PM
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My sister has become increasingly religious over the past few years, has told me I'm going to hell a couple of times. She refuses to even come visit me on a Sunday because it's Sunday, and is about to become engaged to a guy just as religious as she is and she doesn't want him to meet me.

I'm sad, but also want to keep my distance because I'm very uncomfortable with the strength of her religious conviction, and I'm semi-paranoid that she's going to try to hurt me. Religious fanatics try to kill trans people all the time. Brandon Teena is one example. So many people have said they want to kill people like me. When I marched in the trans parade, there were people there with signs saying we should die. So it seems entirely plausible that eventually my sister is going to decide her religion says she is absolutely allowed to attempt to kill me.
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Old Jul 06, 2014, 03:42 PM
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My sister has become increasingly religious over the past few years, has told me I'm going to hell a couple of times. She refuses to even come visit me on a Sunday because it's Sunday, and is about to become engaged to a guy just as religious as she is and she doesn't want him to meet me.

I'm sad, but also want to keep my distance because I'm very uncomfortable with the strength of her religious conviction, and I'm semi-paranoid that she's going to try to hurt me. Religious fanatics try to kill trans people all the time. Brandon Teena is one example. So many people have said they want to kill people like me. When I marched in the trans parade, there were people there with signs saying we should die. So it seems entirely plausible that eventually my sister is going to decide her religion says she is absolutely allowed to attempt to kill me.
I can identify with this. I'm not transgendered myself but I am gay(I hate the term "lesbian")... and I have received a fair amount of death threats/people telling me I deserve to burn in hell/etc because I am out of the closet and I live in the southern US.
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Old Jul 06, 2014, 03:46 PM
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My sister has become increasingly religious over the past few years, has told me I'm going to hell a couple of times. She refuses to even come visit me on a Sunday because it's Sunday, and is about to become engaged to a guy just as religious as she is and she doesn't want him to meet me.

I'm sad, but also want to keep my distance because I'm very uncomfortable with the strength of her religious conviction, and I'm semi-paranoid that she's going to try to hurt me. Religious fanatics try to kill trans people all the time. Brandon Teena is one example. So many people have said they want to kill people like me. When I marched in the trans parade, there were people there with signs saying we should die. So it seems entirely plausible that eventually my sister is going to decide her religion says she is absolutely allowed to attempt to kill me.
I'd say give it some time...I had a friend in high school who at some point wrote me an incredibly long note about how she would like for me to go to heaven....I just happened to be an atheist....she apologized years later...people do mellow and change...she married a guy who was with another woman and had a child with her....their relationship started as an affair but now they have three kids together and are still married....one of the few people I know who hasn't divorced....some people don't learn until their own world gets more complicated or even falls apart....
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I can identify with this. I'm not transgendered myself but I am gay(I hate the term "lesbian")... and I have received a fair amount of death threats/people telling me I deserve to burn in hell/etc because I am out of the closet and I live in the southern US.
I feel like it is very wrong to threaten someone's life just because of whom you love.... Those people deserve no less for saying that. I live in the south myself but very few (as in 1) people I have met were opposed to gay rights. I feel like it should be totally fine to love others of your same gender
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Old Jul 06, 2014, 03:56 PM
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That's the thing, I think she turned to evangelical religion BECAUSE she was struggling to hold things together. And she's just been burrowing further and further into it, sending me bible verses and telling me to go back to being a woman (when that's really not possible now), getting extremely close to the preacher and the other church members. Now she's marrying someone from the church.
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Old Jul 06, 2014, 04:17 PM
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That's the thing, I think she turned to evangelical religion BECAUSE she was struggling to hold things together. And she's just been burrowing further and further into it, sending me bible verses and telling me to go back to being a woman (when that's really not possible now), getting extremely close to the preacher and the other church members. Now she's marrying someone from the church.
Oh I think I see your problem now....these kind of people are using it almost like a blinder to reality....haven't dealt with anyone like that....no idea how to it's almost delusional in my mind....but for me I think it takes a lot of courage to change genders and you should be proud that you are being true to who you are...if she can't deal on a rational level you may have to avoid her for a while or set some ground rules...ie I love you but we obviously disagree on this one point so let's not discuss it if you continue to push the issue we won't be able to interact in the future...
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Thanks. Yeah, she doesn't push it any more after her last facebook message full of bible quotes went unanswered. The whole family kind of avoids me now, doesn't invite me to things. Not that I'm helping, I refused to go to family Christmas this year because they wouldn't call me by my chosen name. I mean, I have a beard, I do not look female any more. My dad and sister still call me "she" and female name. They treat me like I never transitioned. I don't want to start a conversation about that though. I'm happy with myself and I guess not having much contact with my family is best when it hurts to be called the wrong name even after 4 years. It's such a short time but is still forever.
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I'm bisexual myself and have dealt with a family member calling me a dyke and people at school saying gay people should be hanged and burn alive. Luckily the family members that actually count has never said much about my sexuality even though my mom keeps saying she wants grand babies.
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Sometimes(okay, often) I question my gender. It feels like I was born all wrong. I've never really talked about it.

And I've also noticed this interesting tendency that people online and offline very often mistake me for being male.

I don't know, I just wonder about it...
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Wow that statement is comparable to things hitler would have said about Jews..
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Sometimes(okay, often) I question my gender. It feels like I was born all wrong. I've never really talked about it.

And I've also noticed this interesting tendency that people online and offline very often mistake me for being male.
I always figured that you were a girl.. Don't see how they thought you were a guy..
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I always figured that you were a girl.. Don't see how they thought you were a guy..
Thanks. For awhile a lot of people around here were thinking I was a guy.

This whole topic feels extremely weird to talk about...
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Sometimes(okay, often) I question my gender. It feels like I was born all wrong. I've never really talked about it.

And I've also noticed this interesting tendency that people online and offline very often mistake me for being male.

I don't know, I just wonder about it...
The first time I was mistaken for being (born) male was when I was 12 in karate class. I was wearing a sparring helmet and the instructor called me "he". It felt so right but my family kind of forced gender roles on me and my siblings, my mom always lamented that I wasn't a girly girl like her best friend's daughter. So when puberty hit I thought there was no way out any more and I tried to be the girly girl and did such a good acting job that my parents were completely shocked when I came out as trans.
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This whole topic feels extremely weird to talk about...
Western society tends to be very binary when it comes to gender. You're either one or the other and no questioning allowed. Not many people are comfortable talking about it. Sometimes I wish I was born into a culture that had different ideas about gender.
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Thanks. For awhile a lot of people around here were thinking I was a guy.

This whole topic feels extremely weird to talk about...
They say those with anti Social personality disorder are mostly men. I wonder if there is a connection.
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Wow that statement is comparable to things hitler would have said about Jews..
You're lucky that your generation has much less hate because they learn that all of this is normal early on...

My parents once told me that if I was gay they didn't want to know....like I could just hide someone I loved like a life partner from them for the rest of my life....oh yeah my "best friend" is coming for the holidays again...that's ok we can share a bed...

I'm more like asexual so it never came up but still I was ticked that they would even think that way...
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Thanks. For awhile a lot of people around here were thinking I was a guy.

This whole topic feels extremely weird to talk about...
You tend to have female avatars so I always assumed female but I try not to even guess until someone says something specific.
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The first time I was mistaken for being (born) male was when I was 12 in karate class. I was wearing a sparring helmet and the instructor called me "he". It felt so right but my family kind of forced gender roles on me and my siblings, my mom always lamented that I wasn't a girly girl like her best friend's daughter. So when puberty hit I thought there was no way out any more and I tried to be the girly girl and did such a good acting job that my parents were completely shocked when I came out as trans.
That's eerie, something very similar happened to me! I took martial arts for years and wouldn't you know it I got called "he" on more than one occasion. It felt good. I don't know. Gah this is weird... I never talk about this. I've never been a girly girl either. I don't wear make up, paint my fingernails, or any of that stuff. It's just not me.
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They say those with anti Social personality disorder are mostly men. I wonder if there is a connection.
Hm that's an interesting point. I've always felt a bit awkward as a female because I have a very different personality compared to most women.
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