[KUREHA]

It's scary that hospitals and the police are involved in gang stalking, everyone knows the government and MI5 are.

They know all about this at the hospitals, but they act like they have no idea what you are talking about and it doesn't help that they employ sleeper cells as support staff. I think it's mass mind control - like they know what you're saying is true, but they are told to keep quiet about it.

I flag up on their system.

They want me to attack first - so it's good that I don't have to go out much. They'll make a situation that forces it to happen though, because the police are on their side.

The police are the worst though, some of them can't stop from laughing about it - because they enjoy what they do.

They took my friends as well, they tried to keep one on my side - well I can see through that and I know it's just so they can keep someone close to me.

Then they label my life as delusional, just so they can keep total control

Kureha,

Why arent your parents involved with your crisis support team. It seems you will not get better until your parents addresses all these delusions. When i got sick , i went into see my pdoc , then my parents went in after. I dont know what you relationship is like with them but when you write all this stuff , i must confess i ask myself where are your parents. Are they alive or seperated?

[KUREHA]

Yeah they're alive.

Every time I've spoke to my parents about this, it usually starts an argument or they just think I'm being stupid, so usually I try not to mention this stuff to them.

[insilence]

Kureha, what is it that you see or hear that triggers you thinking its gangstalking? For me people in passing cars put their open hands on their nose, one woman used her son standing by a lemonade stand who put his hand to his nose as i passed. One time two guys did the finger across the neck intonating a threat. I went to the police several times in the city i worked. But i got in trouble for posting on a blog that i was going to get the stalkers arrested, the cops brought their chaplain with and complimented me on my writing, but gave ne the option of arrest or hospital. So the stalkers are good at getting you to react so they dont look like anyone
I havent had any stalking since 2013.

[KUREHA]

I'm glad the stalking stopped for you

I get them following me in cars - they will have cars of the same colour, repeating in groups.

Stalkers on foot always passing me and they always have hostile stares, or they will stand talking about me and stare over. They usually wear red.

Helicopters and drones flying by my house over they will hover for a while.

The police follow me constantly either in vehicles over they will appear where ever I go.

Then it's stuff like them using mind control technology on me, so putting messages in my head from them and sometimes I get V2K not often though.

They did the finger across the neck to me as well, I actually talked to the 1 that did that and he called the police.

[insilence]

Originally Posted by KUREHA

I'm glad the stalking stopped for you

I get them following me in cars - they will have cars of the same colour, repeating in groups.

Stalkers on foot always passing me and they always have hostile stares, or they will stand talking about me and stare over. They usually wear red.

Helicopters and drones flying by my house over they will hover for a while.

The police follow me constantly either in vehicles over they will appear where ever I go.

Then it's stuff like them using mind control technology on me, so putting messages in my head from them and sometimes I get V2K not often though.

They did the finger across the neck to me as well, I actually talked to the 1 that did that and he called the police.

Ive deduced that when they start they are getting reports through a secret messaging system on t.i.s, it may be burner phones or other means that tell the ground lurkers what to do to you. What i did was learn how the implant/s work, thats about the time the stalking stopped. you dont need to hurt yourself and i suggest that when you see or feel your being stalked, start an internal thought dialog and calm yourelf and let them know it doesnt affect you. They want a reaction from you, dont give the losers anything to chew on. the best thing is to waiste theyre time and money.

[KUREHA]

Thanks for the advice.

It's hard to get calm when they are around though.

In the past I've tried ignoring them and it got worse.

[Tnao]

The hospital and police are not involved in gang stalking. I hope someday you can get some insight into your delusions.

[Tnao]

Could you please try to challenge your beliefs. Just think, "what if I'm wrong?" "What if the doctor is telling the truth?" Can you not see how unlikely it is that what you think is true? The police laugh because what you say is so far feched not because they are involved in anything.
Can you try to distract yourself from thinking about gang stalking? Start a new course or find a new hobby?
I don't know you but I am distressed by how distressed you are over this. Nobody should have to go through what you go through. But the truth is that it is your mind playing tricks on you. And you've believed it for so long it's going to be difficult to challenge it. I hope that you can get better. But you need to see that you have an illness. Unless you realize you have an illness you can never get better.

[Can't Stop Crying]

Are you doing okay? I am wishing for you to feel safe. CSC

[newtus]

hope your ok KUREHA. i worry about you a lot

[insilence]

Originally Posted by Tnao

The hospital and police are not involved in gang stalking. I hope someday you can get some insight into your delusions.

gang/cause stalking is very real. there are video interviews with ex-government agents claiming they know its happening and who is involved on youtube and other sites. My problems started after i intalled a browns gas hho system in my car and told people. I saw people passing me holding their hands to their faces and directly giving mean faces. Most of them in black SUVs or minivans. I would call the police and explain what was happening. they did nothing. When i went to a megachurch in the city i worked to talk to a pastor, i showed him my blog where i recorded what was happening. I wrote a piece saying i was going to have the perps arrested, the police knowing i meant no threat, came to my job and aressted me for threatening remarks. They in full judas style brought a chaplain and complimented me on my writing but gave me the option of jail or hospital. They lied and said id be out in a day, i had to get a lawyer and go to mental health court. I was locked up for a week. In the hospital the voices harrassed me. No one wanted to help me, just wierd idiotic doctors and quackery. In the hospital the voices were saying they were FBI and would make a tone like sound in my head when i tried to ignore them. the voices started after the stalking started. I think that stalking is how they direct the mind programming programs.

[Tnao]

gang/cause stalking is very real.

I think that this is part of illness. Have you tried to challenge your beliefs? Are you getting treatment at the moment? You need to realize that nobody is stalking you. I had delusions before and know that they are nearly impossible to stop believing them but if I can do it, anyone can. They are 100% gone now and I am much happier. I would advise you to challenge your beliefs and maybe change your medication if the one you're on isn't working.

[newtus]

no gangstalking IS real. its on the news. its in papers. its a delusion if you take meds and are no longer experiencing the realness of it. but if people are openly continuing to harrass you its not a delusion. i just saw an ABC News report yesterday about a man and his wife being harrassed by all the citizens in the town included the police and firefighters. they couple said everytime someone passed their house the person would honk their horn loudly to harrass them at ALL the hours of the day including night.

im a targeted individual. so is my dad. when he was a bit younger he would have police tap his phone calls and follow him around. and neighbors calling police on him for no reason. he did nothing wrong. hes a working man and owns everything he has in his possession. no mortgage. no car payments. he owns multiple houses and tons of cars. full on construction equipment and lots more.

me? im a targeted indivual. it officially started when i was on the local ABC news. in Dallas/Ft. Worth, Texas. the journalists tricked me into getting info out of me about one news subject. turned out it was REALLY about someone being murdered. 1 year and 6 months later i had a private investigator come to my house trying to get more info out of me and have me confess to being a part of a murder that i had no idea happened. he said he might come back to my house to subpeona me to court with official documents he had. i kept saying i knew nothing about a murder. ever since then i now have private investigators following me and police and citizens and even aircrafts and cars following me. i got video and documents and pictures of all this.

gangstalking for me started in high school. someone can be ANY AGE and ANY GENDER or race to follow you. its doesnt matter and you can be any of that to be followed. gangstalking doesnt discriminate.

[Tnao]

the journalists tricked me into getting info out of me about one news subject. turned out it was REALLY about someone being murdered. 1 year and 6 months later i had a private investigator come to my house trying to get more info out of me and have me confess to being a part of a murder that i had no idea happened

I'm sorry if that happened to you, that is not right. Maybe there are some cases of gang stalking, I don't know. But from what I read from Kureha and insilence I don't think they are targeted individuals. I think they are ill and shouldn't be encouraged to believe what they believe.

[newtus]

a lot of people who are truly gangstalked are gangstalked because they are activists or well known in the community. or were tricked or got into legal trouble for doing something. or many other things but in my case i was tricked and my reputation has been ruined. because NOW im diagnosed with schizophrenia. when i told the psychiatrists or therapists this. whom i went to in distress of all this happening to me. which was a bad idea. but i did

[newtus]

i have videos of planes divebombing my house and coming so close to my house. within feet. i was going to notify the FAA but these planes no license on them. meaning they are probably personal planes. but some of them actually are military aircraft

What is mi5?

[Tnao]

my reputation has been ruined. because NOW im diagnosed with schizophrenia. when i told the psychiatrists or therapists this.

I think you are worrying too much about your reputation. Why would being diagnosed schizophrenic ruin your reputation? It's not reputation destroying to have it. I know it's misunderstood. So you don't think you have it but you've been diagnosed as having it?
Maybe try to get your mind thinking about something else besides gang stalking. A lot of things can be coincidences too, like when people blow their horns when you're close by doesn't mean it's directed at you.

[newtus]

well i know i have it because i hear voices and i HAVE HAD delusions in the past. but my experiences have been real. i have full documentation. i cant take it to the police because the police know me and they think im mentally ill. i wont lie ive been picked up by police a lot for talking about gangstalking and for suicidal attempts. right now im mailing my congress workers in order to inform them about my real experiences

[newtus]

Originally Posted by amazingblob

What is mi5?

i think thats the british secret service. dont quote me though. its an organization or service in britain

[Tnao]

but my experiences have been real. i have full documentation. i cant take it to the police because the police know me and they think im mentally ill.

I think you should just forget about it and move on with your life. How would you feel if you found out when you are eighty that the stalking really wasn't real and that you'd wasted your whole life on it? Because I personally don't think it is real. I think you are wasting your time thinking about it. I hope you can find happiness and forget about all of this. I hope you are not distressed by it. It must be very scary.

Originally Posted by Tnao

I think you should just forget about it and move on with your life. How would you feel if you found out when you are eighty that the stalking really wasn't real and that you'd wasted your whole life on it? Because I personally don't think it is real. I think you are wasting your time thinking about it. I hope you can find happiness and forget about all of this. I hope you are not distressed by it. It must be very scary.

Well I this occurs all the time for someone it would be impossible to forget about. Gang stalking is pretty much meant to unnerve and torment those going through it. Just saying.

[Loial]

Originally Posted by newtus

i think thats the british secret service. dont quote me though. its an organization or service in britain

MI5 = internal security service, spies in UK.

MI6 or Secret Intelligence Service = does all the spying abroad.

[KUREHA]

I was reading about schizophrenia to try and find something I could use to prove I don't have it, but there's nothing. My nurse knows I'm telling her the truth, but she stays at "it's because of your illness".