Coincidences

Hi, anyone get freaked out by coincidences?

Anyone feel that they are being followed? Recently this has been sneaking back for me and a coincidence today has shook me up a bit.

For example a few months ago I went to a train station and there was a guy who I thought was acting 'shady' i.e I thought he was 'out to get me' and was sending me a signal. I remembered the backpack he was wearing because it was advertising a language school I had heard about but which isnt near the train station I was in.

Today, I had to use the same train station (2nd time in 3 months and 2nd time in about 8 years). As I was arriving I remembered that the last time I was there i was paranoid about the guy with the backpack. Guess what happened? As I was going back to the station after finishing what I was doing in that area, as I was going through the turnstile there was a guy waiting (obv to follow me through the turnstile without having to pay)..as i went through he followed and as he walked away I looked and he was wearing the same backpack advertising the same language school as the other guy I was paranoid about 3 months ago. What a coincidence. Things like this arent exactly good for people like us with suspicious thoughts.

So, obviously I keep going over this in my head thinking it is some kind of set up or signal that I am being watched, as the probability of in the same place 3 months apart, at different times of the day, both men are carrying the same backpack advertising the language school. Then I think, maybe he was just going to class - but if he can pay for a language school then why would he jump the train. The guy a few months ago also didnt 'look like' the kind of person who would be going to a language school (I know this sounds ridiculous).

This is how my mind works at times, it is good to write it all down. I know this is typical of paranoia/delusions..but it has spoiled my day. It seems too much of a coincidence for it not to have been pre-planned of set up.

Any similar stories? thanks

Hi, I totally understand what your going through. Without my meds I feel that all the time I am being set up by people I don't even know. I don't know what their intentions ate but it always feels malicious.
I will be around people at the bus and I will see something or hear something that I'm positive is directed towards me to make me loose my marbles. The best way that I've dealt with it is to try and ignore it(not easy) and keep my headphones on so I can't hear any side talk from them. I know they are out to get me but I just don't know why. When our mind makes these connections we have to try really hard to see the positive in these situations. Maybe you've been thinking about going to this language school. Idk. Maybe we ate really being set up, but for what reason and why are they do focused on us? Idk. But your not alone.

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this type of thing is refered to in the targeted individual community as "gangstalking/cause stalking". For me it still happens. this type of thing preceded and instigated me hearing voice attacks. For me people pass by in cars and a few look at me if im on the curb or in a car, they make a face and make sure i know they are watching. this type of thing is to attempt to cause paranoia, helplessness. my best advice, dont let it get to you. These people are scum.

I have also encountered some rather bizarre, assclown behaviors from strangers over the years, that made me think that such things could make it very difficult for a person who struggles with psychosis. I mean if you're supposed to be constantly questioning things that seem "too bizarre" or unusual, but then some people really do behave in bizarre, disrespectful ways.

The last incident I experienced was a couple weeks ago while I was standing in my driveway having a cigarette. A couple in an unmarked, blue van slowly pulled up in front of the house, smiling and waving and beckoning me over. They rolled down the window and started asking me random questions without any context. Then without any explanation whatsoever they suddenly rolled up the window and drove away, turned off the street. It made me spend about half an hour replaying the whole thing over and over in my head, wondering what the hell that was all about.

Usually it's like you described.. people making weird faces, or yelling things out of their car window as they drive by, etc. They remind me of the middle schoolers nearby who often act like immature, wild animals, except apparently these people never changed as they grew older.

once in 2011 i was suffering very bad attacks with hearing voices and sounds. people would in time with the devil telling me to look, a car would pull up and park in front of the house and pass out, then i would hear "live again x3" and they would get up and drive off. I think they are reading our minds, otherwise how would they have timed it perfectly?

Well the type of psychosis I get might be different (Bipolar 1), but for me I do think strange/bizarre situations can sort of provoke it, if the potential is already there.

If a situation is very bizarre, and I'm struggling to make sense of it, it sort of kicks off that anxious, paranoid feeling, and then I think my mind can start generating "connections" in an attempt to make sense of everything.

It can definitely be bewildering sometimes.

Thanks for the replies. This is the first I have heard of gangstalking and I have googled it. It sounds exactly what I think is happening to me at times. That there are people conspiring against me, to do things that they know will make me paranoid with the aim of wearing me down.

But, how could this be possible? For 3 years I have been like this, and I think I'm suspicious of at least 3-4 people a day. Over 3 years that is over 3000 people who are part of this, employed to make me paranoid (if I really am being gangstalked). Also, how do they know how I will react?
3000 people spread out over 3 years, and different countries seems ridiculous when written down. How could something like this be organised? If they know I am going to the supermarket, do they find someone I havent seen before to do something that they know I will find suspicious either on my way there, at the supermaket, or on the way home. How do they recruit so many people? There would need to be a constant recruitment process which seems unbelievable to me. If I was really being groupstalked, there must be at least 3000 people involved in it over the past 3 years - it seems impossible to organise something like this, and would cost a lot.

The people I am suspicious of can be kids, old people, teenagers..so I really doubt there are children being employed to gangstalk me.

more thank likely I am just paranoid about everyone. After reading about gangstalking it sounds like that is what is happening to me but it would be very difficult to organise something like this, it would be a 24/7 operation, constantly recruiting people and trying to guess how I will react to things. Am I really that important? Are people really breaking into my house to move things around to f*** with me? Is the old man in the street really sending secret messages? probably not!

Anyone else experiencing this. I think I am lucky that i have some insight, but at times it does seem like a secret society is trying to wear me down. Truman show style, but more sinister. I find it hard to believe that this would be possible as it would require an awful amount of effort.

Opinions?

Hi Solita

I came to the same conclusions as you do here, but my mind took it a step further. i realized it was humanly impossible to organize so many things, but i then believed it was spiritual or cosmological forces organizing it all to send messages to me. i remained fixed in this belief for more than a decade, and i still have trouble dismissing it today. i hope you have better luck with it.

Thanks, how much insight do you have? Do you really deep down think it is humanly possible? Isn't it a lot of effort to go to, from a logistical point of view it seems impossible. Organizing something like a 'truman show' 24/7 wherever you go would take a serious amount of effort.

I dont think it is spiritual or cosmological probably because I have no fear of it, with people though it is scarier. I must add that I am not suspicious or paranoid about my friends and family at all. This is only just random people - anything that is at all random or a coincidence I believe has to be a set up, like a groupstalking or something, but when i really stop to think about it and write it down, it seems impossible. Why would I have been targeted?

I had this earlier in my teenage years around 17/18, paranoia but it went away until I was about 25 and has been here with me almost daily for 3 years.

Are you seeking help for this? Three years is tough going. Ive been sz most of my life with very little insight and was told the longer these types of conditions go unchecked the more difficult it is generally to dislodge or roll them back. I have decent insight now compared to the rest of my life, but like i said i still cant shake these thoughts entirely. Instead i try to base my actions on the probability that it is all in my mind and that has helped tremendously. i have lost most of my faith though as previously it was tied up in these scenarios.

Hi, no I am not seeking help. Obviously I should but I keep thinking I can control it. I once was prescribed anti depressants but they didnt work. I try to meditate and it has definite benefits. I have a lot of insight as I realise it is ridiculous to think like this, I'm probably OCD. It has definitely gotten better though, it prob doesnt sound like it fro my previous post but a few years ago I would spend days and weeks going over things in my head, now it doesnt last anywhere near that long before moving onto worrying about something else.

If I think rationally and base my thoughts on probability then there is no way I am being spied on/followed. People are probably just going about their daily life. I someone is looking in my direction they are probably not even looking at me, I need to get that into my head. Why would I be important enough to warrant being spied on and followed? Not to mention the logistics of organizing a mass gang stalk. In one part of my mind I know it is virtually impossible but in another I keep worrying about that small possibility.

apart from this I live a normal life, have a great relationship, friends, job.

My thoughts snowballed from thinking my colleagues wanted me to get sacked fro my job/thinking my boss hated me...to then getting suspicious of random people, so i dont think i am being gang stalked as my paranoia started off with people i knew then developed into thinking strangers were sending me secret messages trying to wear me down mentally, Now when I look back on the beginnings (the colleague stuff) I can see they werent trying to get me fired at all, I was just being paranoid. So I definitely have insight...thank god for that ..for now

I had all sorts of delusions for most of my life and like you say was able to control it. then a few events converged and i lost control of it. i still didnt seek help for another ten years until i lost control of my moods as well. I dont know how old you are but for me as i got older my ability to reign things in diminished. it might be a good idea for you to talk to a health professional before things have a chance to get worse. it will be much easier to describe your situation now than it would if you somehow lost insight and/or had other complicating symptoms. What youre experiencing sounds a bit on the extreme side, though i understand there are several others on this forum with similar symptoms. I wish you luck with it, and i firmly believe that having a job and friends/relationships help keep the wolves at bay.

Before I started hearing voices I thought people on TV were talking about me and I would tell people about it when I kept hearing my first name on TV may it be a basketball player or TV person that had the same name it still bugs me and I can't watch the show anymore if they say my first name and the person is like making a deal with the devil or acting stupid. I shaved my head and was afraid people were going to come after me after I posted that comment about the shooting, when I rode the bus up to my dads there was a guy who came on the bus who had a beer in his hand (said he was a cops brother) and was talking to someone on the bus who sat close to me who was going to court about things I know he wasn't a cops brother though the guy brought a beer on the bus. When we got to a rest stop I went outside to have a cig and there was a cop who was following us because I was standing under a roof and the guy behind the bus said "hey no smoking under there" the guy had a cig too and said "dang cops" at 1 stop there was a mentally disabled kid who came running and knew me knew my first name I didn't know him he started talking to me about a dead cat he saw on the train tracks and was laughing about it I said "poor kitty" after that happened I had a panic attack my heart was racing and my body was tingling. During my time at my dads I thought I heard someone say "shhh" when a song came on the radio it was "I used to rule the world" I looked over at my dad because I thought he said it. During dinner with my dad and most of the time there I was skeptic of everyone around me afraid people might be texting or talking about me I couldn't concentrate on anything I would always be shaking my leg because I was so nervous. After I told my dad about what I thought people were watching me 1 night I had to go to the bathroom I slept out in the trailer I needed to go to the bathroom and the door was locked I heard him tell the kids "don't answer it" so I took a walk in the rain to find a phone somewhere to call my mom I seen a truck pull into a driveway while I was walking and just sat there nobody came out, it was too far to walk to I walked back and just went to sleep. On my drive back on the bus we picked up some lady and there was also a guy who sat next to me the lady said "crones?" the other lady said no (some other name) I thought that was kind of weird the guy on the bus asked me if I wanted some candy I said no (thinking it was poisoned) he then asked the people in front of us if they wanted some they said ya and took some. During my time at my dad's we went into a staples or something and some guy came in that looked like a secrete service guy or something, I was kind of skeptic of him too. On the bus the laday that said she had some other last name asked me not to smoke a cig because the guy next to me was dying of cancer I couldn't help it at the rest stop I was so nervous I had to have 1, the guy for some reason asked me if I had a cell phone I didn't, when I got off the bus he told me bye and I told him bye. 1 time while I was helping my brother out with his job (he works with mentally disabled people) we were at a pick up spot and I thought the person waiting in the car next to us was CIA or something and I texted my cousin with the phone I now had "geeze it is like the have nothing better to do" the guy then got out of his car and said "why doesn't the dang kid stay off the internet then"

Wow the exact same thing happened to me while I was driving in a car this guy that looked like secrete service or CIA was driving and this African American kid stared at me and made this mean looking face while they were driving by then he turned and started laughing after they passed

the second time I heard voices the voices read my mind and would reply in my ears to what I said in my head so yes they can read minds

When I was psychotic I went through some family pictures and thought for sure they were all flashing gang signs at the camera.

Last night when walking home fro work, there was a car parked in the street (illegally parked, with the indicatosrs on and noone inside) something someone would do if they were to quickly go into a shop and come straight back out. However, there were no shops around, just a few bars. When people do this they dont leave the car there with the indicators on for too long, but this was there for 10 minutes before I left.

Then 5 minutes later in another street, I saw the same thing, another car illegally parked with the indicators on and no one inside the car. This was weird as seeing it happen twice within 5 minutes isnt very usual, so I waited to see if the driver would reappear, and I was waiting 15 minutes before left, still no sign of the driver.

Things like this bother me, and I read them as 'signs' that 'they' are out to get me...some sort of secret message. Maybe there are logical explanations for these cars being there, but I always assume the worst...it is 'their' way of making me question things.

Does this ever happen to anyone? I keep telling myself that if 'they' were going to get me, would they not have done it by now??? or maybe they want to continue the mental abuse which is worse. I dont know who 'they' are...some kind of secret organization, or just my mind playing tricks on me?

I believe all symbols are very meaningful just like when you dream and every symbol,images etc means something deeper.schizophrenics sort of live half in real life half in the spirit world,I think the words and symbols in the language school probably connect to something in your deep past,some sort of connection.i don't think its part of a secret thing.there are low spirits that try and confuse you,and good spirits that point out connections schizs have to deal with both.
In the tradtional and ancient times with shamanism and paganism we all would have had a better grasp of symbols and the spirit world,but we have no help now.
Two days ago I wasreading this guys blog he a spiritual guy and he was saying how he'd found the number 777 on something and how he knew he was going to have a good trip now because it was meaningful for him,well I left the blog few minutes later visited a different site and there was the big banner ad on it at the top with a picture of a slot machine just saying 777.
Sometimes im glad to be schiz because I live in a very meaningful universe.

Anyone else see random events as 'signs'. pretty much anything can be a trigger, even something like someone who rings by apartment buzzer from the street and when I answer they say 'sorry wrong apartment' or if someone calls my mobile pone by mistake, I think it is a threat and little 'clues' that something/someone is out to get me.

Ridiculous I know

i also subscribe to the idea that were being induced with "neural holograms" at times. ive had very well repeating persecuting dreams that put me in another reality i thought in the dream was my own. and the visuals were too vivid to be my own mind making it up. Scientificly my thoughts make me think were being followed by pre-programmed algorythms that trigger these "holograms."