my psychiatrist and psychologist say i am psychotic but.....

Mar 09, 2016, 01:41 AM

ok so i would really appreciate any replies to this and of course if you read it all but i wanted to know from people who may have some experience.

my psychiatrist and psychologist say i am psychotic i do not think it am but do you agree with them?

i think they are trying to hurt me. this is kind of complicated so sorry if i am explaining it badly. anyway there are "others" in my head that are not me and they put thoughts in my head and show me things and tell me to do things they are magical and they are from another world. they say that (lets call them A and B) A made this world and it is fake and that A was not supposed to make this world and by making this world it was bad to B and disrupted the balance. B and the others in my head are on the same side and they want me to do some things so that i can go back to the real world and bring evidence of what A did to the ones who kind of like govern the real world so that A does not do the bad things again and so that they stop. because A made this world A is controlling my doctors so that they try and stop me from doing what B wants and A is also controlling the people around me so there are always people watching me and if i am not careful they will hurt me. also i think there are demons attached to me which may be A's doing but i am not sure about that but there are demons everywhere and i can feel them and they whisper in my ear sometimes and say bad things they scare me. the demons also come from one of the other worlds well some of them not all of them my doctors do not know all of this they just know there are others in my head and about that there are demons attached to me. my doctors want me to take medication but i cant because the others in my head say it is poison and that they are evil and that they want to hurt me. the others also say that about the people at the hospital. the others tell me to hurt myself and sometimes to hurt other people. there is probably more but i cant think right now if there is i will post more . thanks if you read this.

psychoticcr7 · Mar 09, 2016, 03:09 AM

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Originally Posted by eden1515

ok so i would really appreciate any replies to this and of course if you read it all but i wanted to know from people who may have some experience.

my psychiatrist and psychologist say i am psychotic i do not think it am but do you agree with them?

i think they are trying to hurt me. this is kind of complicated so sorry if i am explaining it badly. anyway there are "others" in my head that are not me and they put thoughts in my head and show me things and tell me to do things they are magical and they are from another world. they say that (lets call them A and B) A made this world and it is fake and that A was not supposed to make this world and by making this world it was bad to B and disrupted the balance. B and the others in my head are on the same side and they want me to do some things so that i can go back to the real world and bring evidence of what A did to the ones who kind of like govern the real world so that A does not do the bad things again and so that they stop. because A made this world A is controlling my doctors so that they try and stop me from doing what B wants and A is also controlling the people around me so there are always people watching me and if i am not careful they will hurt me. also i think there are demons attached to me which may be A's doing but i am not sure about that but there are demons everywhere and i can feel them and they whisper in my ear sometimes and say bad things they scare me. the demons also come from one of the other worlds well some of them not all of them my doctors do not know all of this they just know there are others in my head and about that there are demons attached to me. my doctors want me to take medication but i cant because the others in my head say it is poison and that they are evil and that they want to hurt me. the others also say that about the people at the hospital. the others tell me to hurt myself and sometimes to hurt other people. there is probably more but i cant think right now if there is i will post more . thanks if you read this.

The Matrix?

Mar 09, 2016, 04:14 AM

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Originally Posted by psychoticcr7

The Matrix?

it is not quite like the matrix only really the different worlds part but even then the worlds are different than the matrix.

Loial · Mar 09, 2016, 07:19 AM

I think your psychiatrist & psychologist are professionals, and as such you should rely on their judgement.

Rather than telling you what I think personally, I'm going to give you a few questions to consider:

Do you think it is normal to have "others" in your head? Is that something everybody experiences...

Don't you find it strange that the vast majority of people do not believe that demons exist. If they do exist, why can you detect them whilst other people can't?

Is it normal to think people are watching you, who are being controlled by some entity, "A"?

Why do you think your doctors, or the staff at the hospital would want to hurt you? Even if they are being controlled, is it not true they treat many other people for similar problems & yet no harm comes to them.

... just think about all that.

I'm sure you might have answers as to why only you experience these things or are being targeted... but remember, these are not normal things to think outwith mental illness. There are many other people who have thought similar things, only to get better on meds & realise they weren't true even though they seemed real at the time. It's very common for people who are psychotic not to think they are.

So, would it not stand to reason that you then also have the same problems, i.e. you do have psychosis?

Just some food for thought.

Angelique67 · Mar 09, 2016, 07:57 AM

Hi, Eden. I'm wondering how these different entities speak to you. Do you hear their voices? Do they talk in voices to you, or is it that they plant thoughts in your mind and you consider these thoughts to be alien or not your own?

I hope things get a lot easier for you soon. I'm worried about your constant exhaustion and despair.

Mar 09, 2016, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Angelique67

Hi, Eden. I'm wondering how these different entities speak to you. Do you hear their voices? Do they talk in voices to you, or is it that they plant thoughts in your mind and you consider these thoughts to be alien or not your own?

I hope things get a lot easier for you soon. I'm worried about your constant exhaustion and despair.

They put thoughts in my head that are not my thoughts and sometimes they tell me something and will make something happen to show me stuff.

Angelique67 · Mar 09, 2016, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by eden1515

They put thoughts in my head that are not my thoughts and sometimes they tell me something and will make something happen to show me stuff.

I won't judge because I'm currently going through something really weird that I always discounted as a bad fantasy. But it's very real. I hate it if someone says, yes, 'real for you!' because that's so painful and invalidating. Yet I'm going through it and it's scaring the crap out of me. And I'm on meds. I just went up on an increased dose yesterday. So I'm wondering if my meds ever worked at all because the last time I thought I had been having a bad delusion, it cleared up the day I first posted on pc. That is a huge and suspicious "coincidence".

So now I'm back to wondering if there had ever been anything wrong with my perception at all, and it's very possible all of the delusions I've had were not delusions at all. I'm not in either camp of thought right now. It's all too incredible.

I'm still taking meds because it seems to please the doctor. At this point, the less I care about any of it the better.

So, even if you try meds, they might not change anything. You just never know. You could always stop taking them too, if you do give them a try. That's totally up to you. The thing that makes me bring up meds is the demons telling you to do harm to yourself or others. You have a lot of strength and control with that, but if you slipped just once, you could wind up in prison, and I don't ever want that to happen to you.

Mar 09, 2016, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Angelique67

I won't judge because I'm currently going through something really weird that I always discounted as a bad fantasy. But it's very real. I hate it if someone says, yes, 'real for you!' because that's so painful and invalidating. Yet I'm going through it and it's scaring the crap out of me. And I'm on meds. I just went up on an increased dose yesterday. So I'm wondering if my meds ever worked at all because the last time I thought I had been having a bad delusion, it cleared up the day I first posted on pc. That is a huge and suspicious "coincidence".

So now I'm back to wondering if there had ever been anything wrong with my perception at all, and it's very possible all of the delusions I've had were not delusions at all. I'm not in either camp of thought right now. It's all too incredible.

I'm still taking meds because it seems to please the doctor. At this point, the less I care about any of it the better.

So, even if you try meds, they might not change anything. You just never know. You could always stop taking them too, if you do give them a try. That's totally up to you. The thing that makes me bring up meds is the demons telling you to do harm to yourself or others. You have a lot of strength and control with that, but if you slipped just once, you could wind up in prison, and I don't ever want that to happen to you.

i am sorry you are going through stuff i dont want to go to prison and neither do the others in my head so they and i are cautious around that point.

Angelique67 · Mar 09, 2016, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by eden1515

i am sorry you are going through stuff i dont want to go to prison and neither do the others in my head so they and i are cautious around that point.

Thank you, Eden. I hope things get more clear and less torture filled for us both.

Mar 09, 2016, 08:52 PM

i really dont know what to do i am tired i wish people could just accept that people are different and that that doesnt mean they need to be taking "medication" or that they are crazy it is perfectly acceptable to believe in demons in other cultures so why cant i without being told i am "sick" all the time i am not just because others dont understand doesnt mean ugh i am so tired of this i am not sick and them saying that just proves my point.

ickydog2006 · Mar 10, 2016, 12:12 PM

It sounds like you are very anxious and upset and distressed by the current situation. Do you really think it would hurt you to try meds for a month. Even if what you are saying is true, meds still might make things feel more bearable. I have had a lot of success with meds, after much trial and error, but life is much more enjoyable when I can share it with others and share their reality. Have you ever considered that these voices and their problems should have nothing to do with you, they can find someone else to make miserable and try and control. What do you have to gain by following their instructions. It sounds like the voices are just trying to use a different manipulate you. Meds might give you a break from that. Thunk of it as a mini vacation. If the voices are so desperate, they can find someone else.