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Old Dec 17, 2016, 07:16 AM
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Expressing all my mental ****.

The only problem? Lack of motivation.

But I have to do it if I want to stay antipsychotic free.

I don't tolerate antipsychotics really well, I cannot study even if I take a micro dosage (I am studying a degree in pharmacy). And yeah, I have tried almost all of them.

I have therapy with my psychiatrist once each 1-2 weeks.

Is there something that help you with what psychiatrist call psychosis beyond antipsychotics?

Is there a way to don't obey the voices? How can I communicate with them to convince them to don't kill myself on 24 December? I don't want to die but I have to convince them in order to avoid dying.
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Old Dec 17, 2016, 07:51 AM
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Are you against supplements? Sarcosine is supposed to help with negative symptoms....
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Old Dec 17, 2016, 08:39 AM
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Are you against supplements? Sarcosine is supposed to help with negative symptoms....
I can't find it where I live.
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Old Dec 17, 2016, 04:24 PM
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I just read the last part of your message.....you don't have to listen to them....they are not real....if you're even remotely thinking of listening to them I suggest checking into the hospital where you can be kept safe .....
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Old Dec 18, 2016, 01:59 AM
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my pdoc told me to say to my voices that "They were not real so go f.ck off!" over and over agaain but I think Sometimes Psychotic is right checking yourself into hospital is a safe thing to do.
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Old Dec 18, 2016, 03:33 AM
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I practice Stoicism. Its kinda misunderstood, but its helped me a great deal, people think its about repressing emotions and what not . Its more about training your mind ; that nothing that happens is good or bad but its your thinking behind what happens that decides if something is good or bad. So you could be insulted, but if you dont really believe that what was said harms you then you can not really ever be insulted(takes time to rewire your brain;ie. old thinking habits). FYI Stoicism is the foundation for CBT therapy. Theres lots of blogs,youtube videos, etc. on it. I think it can help you have some autonomy.
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Old Dec 19, 2016, 11:24 AM
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Art therapy
Reading
Excercise
Playing videogames

Expressing all my mental ****.

The only problem? Lack of motivation.

But I have to do it if I want to stay antipsychotic free.

I don't tolerate antipsychotics really well, I cannot study even if I take a micro dosage (I am studying a degree in pharmacy). And yeah, I have tried almost all of them.

I have therapy with my psychiatrist once each 1-2 weeks.

Is there something that help you with what psychiatrist call psychosis beyond antipsychotics?

Is there a way to don't obey the voices? How can I communicate with them to convince them to don't kill myself on 24 December? I don't want to die but I have to convince them in order to avoid dying.
I am a veteran, and the VA gave me training in fighting the voices. This is called Cognitive Behavioral Social Skills Training (CBSST for short). I took the course for half a year, so there is too much to summarize in a short email, but you might look into this training if you don't want to take antipsychotics. I find that the techniques work all right when the symptoms are weak, but the training doesn't work well at all when the voices are at their strongest. I take antipsychotics (Latuda these days), and I practice CBSST, and I fight, and I usually lose those fights. It's worth fighting anyway, on the theory that one day things might turn around.

So, you ask, if the training is only partly effective, why bother? Because as you know from antipsychotic drugs, results vary by individual. What is a partial solution for me might kick *** for you. You might find that CBSST gives you 90% relief from the voices. You should consult your psychiatrist and see what she says.
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Old Dec 19, 2016, 12:13 PM
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I am one of those who doesn't respond at all to AP.
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Old Dec 19, 2016, 01:08 PM
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You shouldn't make threats on here that you're going to kill yourself. Getting people worried and all that, it's not productive.
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Old Dec 19, 2016, 01:42 PM
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You shouldn't make threats on here that you're going to kill yourself. Getting people worried and all that, it's not productive.
I am not going to kill myself because i don't want to, I am just saying what entities want me to do and asking for advice to deal with it.
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Old Dec 19, 2016, 01:43 PM
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Actually I am going to be IP on Friday to find out what to do.
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"Outwardly: dumbly, I shamble about, a thing that could never have been known as human, a
thing whose shape is so alien a travesty that humanity becomes more obscene for the vague resemblance."
I have no mouth and I must scream -Harlan Ellison-
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Old Dec 19, 2016, 02:16 PM
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I am not going to kill myself because i don't want to, I am just saying what entities want me to do and asking for advice to deal with it.
Just ignore them.
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Old Dec 19, 2016, 03:25 PM
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When in an appropriate environment, close your eyes, try to gather them in an assembly and work as a mediator to reach an agreement with them. Make it clear that your life and well being are off the table. There must be another thing that they wanted you to do that maybe you neglected so they got pissed and it evolved into a destructive demand. Say that you're sorry for that, that you don't want them to suffer anymore, and that you're willing to compensate it in a way that doesn't involve hurting yourself or others (including them, because after all they are part of you!). Maybe you can suggest them to work with you in a creative project, but let them know that you can't do it without them, because you know that all their energy, when not canalised into hating you, is essential for you to reach full inspiration and that you all can create beauty together. Instead of killing yourself in December 24, celebrate the agreement.
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Old Dec 19, 2016, 04:00 PM
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By the way I'm also from the club of those who don't respond well to APs. They are poison to me: physical and spiritually. I had to invest in the search for psychic mechanisms to keep myself in orbit. It isn't effective 100% of the time but at least I find comfort in knowing that my spirit is safe.
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Old Dec 19, 2016, 05:37 PM
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I am going to be inpatient and see if I can make it with benzos and gabapentin.

I have tried all atypical except clozapine and many typical.s
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Old Dec 19, 2016, 05:41 PM
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I am going to be inpatient and see if I can make it with benzos and gabapentin.

I have tried all atypical except clozapine and many typical.s
I'm glad you'll be safe for the holidays.....
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Old Dec 19, 2016, 09:23 PM
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I feel for you man. I had a half dozen breakdowns when I was in my 20's. I didn't like taking the medicine either but I realize now that there were times when I did need to take it. I don't know much about atypical though as my breakdowns stopped in the early 80's
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Old Dec 20, 2016, 02:12 AM
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I'm glad you'll be safe for the holidays.....
Holidays are dangerous for me sine I don't have family and the history of trauma is triggered by Christmas....
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"Outwardly: dumbly, I shamble about, a thing that could never have been known as human, a
thing whose shape is so alien a travesty that humanity becomes more obscene for the vague resemblance."
I have no mouth and I must scream -Harlan Ellison-
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Old Dec 20, 2016, 02:22 AM
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I feel for you man. I had a half dozen breakdowns when I was in my 20's. I didn't like taking the medicine either but I realize now that there were times when I did need to take it. I don't know much about atypical though as my breakdowns stopped in the early 80's
The problem is i dont respond to medicatio, It is not just I dont want to take them...

I am glad they stopped for you, I hope they stop in my case too
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"Outwardly: dumbly, I shamble about, a thing that could never have been known as human, a
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Old Dec 20, 2016, 07:12 PM
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Tell them to leave you alone. That is what my therapist told me.
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Maybe do some research on CBD...
Live really healthy...
Excercise
Stay away from stress...
Follow you heart...
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