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Old Sep 16, 2007, 01:12 AM
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In Kay's book, Touched with Fire, she claims that no one who has been diagnosed schizophrenic is creative. Being a schizophrenic writer, I take offense in the largest possible way to this statement. I don't care if she is bipolar, you never insult an entire group of people like that. I think that being bipolar got to her head and she suddenly feels superior to me and the 1% of the American population who are combating a psychotic disorder. I have nothing against anyone with bipolar disorder and I don't mean to offend anyone struggling with it. My own father is one. But I have a problem with manic depressive *****es thinking that they are so much better because their illness comes in episodes and they have normal functioning after episodes.

I just needed to vent. That ***** pisses me off with her thinking. She thinks of people as labels and not people. That's why I like MY doctor. he sees me for who I am: A reserved writer that happens to have schizophrenia. People like this hag are bringing down psychiatry with their conformity and generalities. Where are the cool docs who focus on the individual person and not on some stupid %#@&#! label? Gone? Were they ever there? Or am I going to have to read and listen to ignorant asinine "doctors" like this ***** and E. Fuller Torrey. Guide to schizophrenia my ***.
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Old Sep 16, 2007, 01:55 AM
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WOW Phil...from one phil to another I gotta tell ya...nobody can "%#@&#! you off" without your permission...own those feelings! lol other than that you seem real nice...and a freethinker too!
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Old Sep 16, 2007, 11:32 AM
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Kay Redfield Jamison - snooty *****
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Old Sep 24, 2007, 12:19 AM
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But I have a problem with manic depressive *****es thinking that they are so much better because their illness comes in episodes and they have normal functioning after episodes.

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Interestingly, Kay Redfield Jamison struggled with many periods of psychosis within her manic episodes. But anyway, I just purchased the book you are referencing and I will have to read it for myself before I can comment on the passage you are talking about.
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Old Sep 27, 2007, 02:03 AM
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Hmm...

I know people with bipolar disorder are said to be generally more creative... maybe she made the statement meaning that schizophrenia and creativity are not linked, like bipolar disorder and creativity often are? I don't know how exactly it was said or in what context, but I'm sure she'd never make such a wide sweeping statement without some kind of explanation or reasoning. I've read a couple other of her books, and I never found her to be anything but honest and intellectual. I don't know if I am even close, but that's just my thoughts. No clue if the comment was even related to bipolar disorder, but that would be my first guess (under the assumption it is to do with bipolar disorder, since that's often the focus of her writing). I'll have to look into this book.
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