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Old Jun 04, 2009, 08:35 AM
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Im not sure why i get in moods like this, even though no one prolly does. I just woke up this morning in a depressed mood. I dont like being depressed so it gets me angry at myself because i feel stupid. Those two emotions together makes me wanta rip a part every peace of flesh on me, ive talk with my boyfriend about it, but it didnt really help. Im urgeing for it so bad. its been almost a month since i did it...... its so hard

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Old Jun 05, 2009, 03:46 PM
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Almost a month! Keep going... do you have anyone besides your boyfriend that you can talk to about this? A doctor, a therapist?
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Old Jun 05, 2009, 08:45 PM
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hi, I've had exactly the same issue, except that I refulse to have a boyfriend. I know that this is really hard to deal with, but I know that you can get over this barrier.
Try to not get stuck in your moods and push them away and save them for a time when you can be reasonable and reflect on what you did and how you can change yourself for future situations like this.
Here's a way how you can reflect on your problems and how to understand how you began to feel like what ever your issue is and how to accept the issue, then try to move on and begin with a new slate again:
1. Describe the specific PROBLEM BEHAVIOR

(flashback, cutting, disassociation, hiding, closeting, panic attack, etc.)
A. Be very specific and detailed. No vague terms.


B. Identify exactly what you did, said, thought or felt (if feelings are the targeted problem behavior).

C. Describe the intensity of the behavior and other characteristics of the behavior that are
important.


D. Describe the problem behavior in enough detail that an actor in a play or movie could recreate the behavior exactly.
2. Describe the specific PRECIPITATING EVENT that started the whole chain of behavior.

A. Start with the environmental event that started the chain. Always start with some event in your environment, even if it doesn't seem to you that the environmental event "caused" the problem behavior. Possible questions to get at this are:
What exact event precipitated the start of the chain reaction?
When did the sequence of events that led to the problem behavior begin? When did the problem start?
What was going on the moment the problem started?
What were you doing, thinking, feeling, imagining at that time?
Why did the problem behavior happen on that days instead of the day before? 3. Describe in general VULNERABILITY FACTORS happening before the precipitating event.

What factors or events made you more vulnerable to a problematic chain? Areas to examine are:
A. Physical illness; unbalanced eating or sleeping; injury


B. Use of drugs or alcohol; misuse of prescription drugs

C. Stressful events in the environment (either positive or negative)

D. Intense emotions, such as sadness, anger, fear, loneliness

E. Previous behaviors of your own that you found stressful
4. Describe in excruciating detail THE CHAIN OF EVENTS that led up to the problem behavior.

A. What next? Imagine that your problem behavior is chained to the precipitating event in the environment. How long is the chain? Where does it go? What are the links? Write out all links in the chain of events, no matter how small. Be very specific, as if you are writing a script for a play.
What exact thought (or belief), feeling, or action followed the precipitating event? What thought, feeling, or action followed that? What next?
Look at each link in the chain after you write it. Was there another thought feeling, or action that could have occurred? Could someone else have thought, felt, or acted differently at that point? If so, explain how that specific thought, feeling, or action came to be.
For each link in the chain, as if there is a smaller link I could describe.
B. The links can be thoughts, emotions, sensations and behaviors.
5. What are the CONSEQUENCES of this behavior? Be specific.

How did other people react immediately and later?
How did you feel immediately following the behavior? Later?
What effect did the behavior have on you and your environment? 6. Describe in detail different SOLUTIONS to the problem.

A.Go back to the chain of your behaviors following the prompting event. Circle each point or link indicating that if you had done something different, you would have avoided the problem behavior.

B.What could you have done differently at each link in the chain of events to avoid the problem behavior? What coping behaviors or skillful behaviors could you have used?
7. Describe in detail the PREVENTION STRATEGY

A. How could you have kept the chain from starting by reducing your vulnerability to the chain.
8. Describe what you are going to do to REPAIR important or significant consequences of the problem behavior.

I think that you should try to give this a shot, but wait until you can be calm and out of your extreme emotional state so that you can reflect on the issue reasonably and not with a mental health distortion

PM me anytime if you want to. I'd love to help you get through your barriers.
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Thanks for this!
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Old Jun 06, 2009, 07:51 PM
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congrats on not SIing thats great!!! - I would like to ask the same question - are you seeing a T? its hard to do this on your own - please take care of yourself - youa re not stupid - you are human and sometimes we get depressed - learning how to deal with those emotions is a hard thing - but you can do it and a T can help
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Old Jun 06, 2009, 10:59 PM
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xxMSFxx, did you try using this to analyze and solve some of your problems??? Do you have a therapist or someone who you can talk to openly about your issues???
Wishing you the best,
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Old Jun 08, 2009, 02:46 PM
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I dont like being depressed so it gets me angry at myself because i feel stupid. Those two emotions together makes me wanta rip a part every peace of flesh on me
I agree with everyone that a therapist would be very helpful. Every emotion that you have is for a reason. Accepting your feelings is very helpful.
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Old Jun 09, 2009, 10:26 PM
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thnks guys and no i dont have a T yet im looking fer one thouhgh the only problem is my parents....they just dont wanta believe i need help i guess most of the time i wake up feeling like tht or something wit food sets it of, headach, anger, wanting to self injur, then terrible depression

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Old Jun 10, 2009, 01:10 AM
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if you are at school or uni can you see a school counciller?

try to see where these feelings are coming from - that can somtimes help deal with them

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Old Jun 10, 2009, 09:18 AM
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thnks guys and no i dont have a T yet im looking fer one thouhgh the only problem is my parents....they just dont wanta believe i need help i guess most of the time
You need therapy whether they want to believe this or not...........
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Old Jun 10, 2009, 10:02 AM
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i am in school, but the school counselors just seem so fake, i really hate talking to them. They were told by a doctor that i need to see someone...that was around 2 years ago, and still nothing. She says its cuz they just keep giving her the run around. When i told her there are T's around by us that i can easily get an appointment, she changed the subject pretty quick.
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Old Jun 10, 2009, 10:13 AM
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Can you call a therapist and make an appt?
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Old Jun 10, 2009, 10:15 AM
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im not sure i can since i am a minor. but ill prolly just get yelled at if i do.
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Old Jun 10, 2009, 11:29 AM
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It is neglectful for your parents to not get you into counseling with your symptoms and when a doc told them to. Can you think of anyone you can turn to to help you get into counseling?
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Old Jun 10, 2009, 02:33 PM
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yeah i think i have someone, im going to talk to her this weekend. shes pretty much a second mom to me.
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That's good, keep me posted. I feel that you can get through this and that it is not impossible. The best part is that you have not hit total rock bottom. I've been there and done that. It was sheer hell. I hope that she can help you.
sending you warm fuzzy wishes
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That's good, keep me posted. I feel that you can get through this and that it is not impossible. The best part is that you have not hit total rock bottom. I've been there and done that. It was sheer hell. I hope that she can help you.
sending you warm fuzzy wishes

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Old Jun 11, 2009, 12:52 PM
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yeah i think i have someone, im going to talk to her this weekend. shes pretty much a second mom to me.
Yeah! Keep us posted..........
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i deff will
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