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Old Feb 28, 2013, 05:14 PM
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going to try a meeting tonight maybe. I just need to borrow mom's car since I am almost out of gas (though she just gave us gas money yesterday, it wasn't a lot, and it's needed for Saturday)...

It's supposedly an alternative to a 12-step addictions program. Hoping I like it. Hoping it helps. Here's to trying.
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Old Feb 28, 2013, 08:28 PM
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Let us know how it goes!
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Old Mar 01, 2013, 11:46 AM
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ugh... it was horribly triggering... they were loud and intense and very much hard-core CBT with no real teaching, just expecting you to know the right answer... so pretty much a combination of DBT & my family of origin, only on steroids... I ended up leaving early and getting light-headed on the way home. i pulled over for about 40 minutes, trying to get my vision back and remembering to breathe. I ended up calling a crisis line because I wasn't doing very well in grounding myself. That was the most positive aspect of the whole ordeal (both actually being able to call, and the support I found on the other end - a first in regards to the support). so, chalk that up to a learning experience ad move on. I think if you can handle the more "harsh" style of CBT and DBT, then this could be a really good alternative to a 12-step program. I think also that this particular group of individuals was very loud and intense... many had anger issues, and that is a trigger for me. The woman who was the wife of the facilitator pretty much took over the meeting and was very critical (in a negative way, not supportive or prompting and real growth, just pretty much quite literally yelling when she thought you were wrong in some thought process or belief).
It just all very much reminded me of my mom's "just change your thinking, now, and everything will be better" approach and my dad's verbal abuse. <-- not a good fit for me at this time.
The CBT could be useful if they bothered actually teaching it or offering a way to learn it, and mentioning that you should be on your way through CBT before you go to a group. I can see how it can be a helpful method. Unfortunately, all the written learning materials and guides cost money.
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Old Mar 01, 2013, 01:09 PM
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I'm sorry it didn't turn out to be what you were hoping for I could imagine it would be frustrating to be stuck in a louder environment where people are more intent on saying their point of view rather than listening and being supportive.

It's good the crisis line was helpful! I've thought about calling those before, but the idea seems kinda scary since I don't really know what to expect and it's with a complete stranger. How does it work? How did it help?
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Old Mar 01, 2013, 04:45 PM
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I had a whole response typed up for you on my phone, then a call came through and it disappeared

The crisis line was a bit cumbersome to get to a real person at first, but I sat through it this time (they also manage the crisis line for the VA, so they have a message directing veterans to push another option to be connected with someone from the VA). This time around, someone picked up relatively quickly. In the past, the only other time I made it through the whole message, it took the guy several minutes (or it felt like several minutes) to pick up. The woman was nice. She let me talk and was supportive. She didn't freak out when I told her what was in my head. She was a bit concerned when I told her I pulled over while driving, and she checked with me a few times to make sure I was safe. She wasn't judgmental, and let me talk myself out to help me ground. She was also ok with the silence she got on the line while I was collecting my thoughts and trying to figure out how to say what I needed to...

I have a huge fear of calling crisis lines, so the fact that this was a positive experience helped a lot. I've had some pretty negative experiences int eh past with some local lines in my home state. the number to this one is 800-273-8255
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Yes i have heard of Smart Recovery, i am supposed to be going to them at the moment but i haven't managed to turn up to one yet. There's one near me tomorrow so i'll try and attend that. If i manage to go i'll give you an update but as far as i know (and i'm quoting from the leaflet here)

Is a elf-help group for seeking independence from addictive behaviours and teaches tools and techniques to:
Build and maintain motivation
Cope with Urges
manage thoughts and feelings
Live a balanced life

The goal being to gain independence, achieve recovery, and lead a meaningful life away from problematic behaviour.

So that's pretty much what i know at the moment. I really do hope i mange to get there tomorrow, like i say if i do i'll give you some more info but that's what i have got for now.
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Yes i have heard of Smart Recovery, i am supposed to be going to them at the moment but i haven't managed to turn up to one yet. There's one near me tomorrow so i'll try and attend that. If i manage to go i'll give you an update but as far as i know (and i'm quoting from the leaflet here)

Is a elf-help group for seeking independence from addictive behaviours and teaches tools and techniques to:
Build and maintain motivation
Cope with Urges
manage thoughts and feelings
Live a balanced life

The goal being to gain independence, achieve recovery, and lead a meaningful life away from problematic behaviour.

So that's pretty much what i know at the moment. I really do hope i mange to get there tomorrow, like i say if i do i'll give you some more info but that's what i have got for now.
I hope you make it today and that it works for you. I think it has really great potential, I just hit an awkward group.
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