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Although I know there is another thread with the same subject, I decided to start a new one because I felt that some of the messages in the other thread were condoning hitting yourself/punching yourself, which I believe it should be considered on the same level as cutting, ie: it is self harm.

I guess I am mostly seeking advice and also wondering if anyone else has this issue. Unfortunately, I am also a cutter, so essentially I have issues with self-harm. And I am very ashamed about this and would not disclose this to anyone but this private forum.

When I am really really upset, disconnected, and having what I call an "episode" I sometimes get very very angry (usually at myself or how I am feeling) and I will repeatedly punch myself in the head with fists very hard. It is really horrible and I always feel awful afterwards and dizzy. Unfortunately, last night I did this for quite sometime. I finally stopped when I really scared my partner and he held me down. All day today my head has felt sort of murky, bad headache and after some Advil, it still kind of aches. I am sure it is just sore from what I did. I did some research online and it seems you can't really cause a concussion or anything, although I think the emotional effects are really terrible. Perhaps it was due to my episode and issue last night, which was really awful and I won't go into it, but I have felt very out of it all day. Unable to focus or think clearly at work. (I did not want to come in, but that's another story)

I guess I was just wondering if anyone that has Borderline Personality Disorder or anyone else, do you sometimes have these reactions also? It is unfortunately something I have done ever since I was a teenager. Often it was related to a very intense emotionally abusive fight or argument with someone, where I became extremely upset.

In addition, when I am so upset and revved up and out of sorts, what should I do? I was told to use a rubber band on my wrist and snap it. I don't want to be inappropriate but I did that method before and after my head punching and now my wrist is really bruised and swollen, so apparently that is not the best method either.

Any help, advice, or similar experiences would be helpful. Thank you.


I can strongly relate to this. When I get super upset and frustrated, I begin uncontrollably punching my thighs. Sometimes I use objects to hit myself with. I figure it's better than hurting someone else, which I have rarely ever had the urge to do anyway. I haven't cut myself in over 6 years, so that is not a habit I want to get back into; even though I have had the strong urge today to do it. Somehow, my mind justifies "punching", as if it's somehow different than cutting. Even though it's basically the same, in essence. They are both "self-harm", just manifest in a different way.

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Old Jul 09, 2018, 10:21 AM
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Starting in my 40’s after years of frustration in a bad marriage, specifically intimacy issues, I smacked myself in the head with my brush. I had never even thought of doing that before in all my life. Never even heard of anyone doing it. No one gave me the idea. I continued doing this kind of SH for a few years. It was automatic and uncontrolled during extreme frustration. The blinding pain, hot, surging through me felt exquisitely good for a moment. I had hoped the SH would scare my husband into giving me what I wanted, but it didn’t. I stopped the SH.

I went to therapists. I have learned the moment they hear anything regarding SH, they say “Borderline”.
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Just did a search on Google for banging my own head. Did this a couple of nights ago for the first time in years and still incredibly sore. What a lot of people are saying on this thread really resonated with what I'm going through from punching thighs, pinching and banging my head. I scream at the tip of my lungs when doing a lot of motorway driving too which helps me.

At present I am undergoing a serious amount of stress along with young kids and not the easiest of husbands who can be very critical when he's stressed.

It all stems from childhood of having a disconnected mother who has never accepted the role she played in causing her children's mental health problems and a father that was frankly awful at me throughout my childhood (which to his credit has admitted that he was horrible back then and regrets it).

I had counselling at 14 for 3 years to which I was diagnosed with depression. I have been on antidepressants through difficult phases of my life (have only come off medication which been on for the last 3 years, 3 months ago). I don't regret it and trying to cope through SH again as feel antidepressants alter my personality and perceptions of stuff around me making me more inclined to accept rather than challenge people or situations.

I've not been diagnosed with much else as very distrusting of health providers and the labels they put on people (i have a very good friend whose been labelled as such and feel that has made her feel worse which I think it would make me feel worse). Don't feel it's fair when they put the word disorder in these labels as it's out of a person's control having a bad childhood that doesn't enable the right development steps. I feel society is quite apathetic when it comes to such things, rather medicate than treat. I have drawn these conclusions from school who let me down, even ostracized due to my race and neighbours that heard abuse taking place and would ostracize (primarily due to race).
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When I get really angry, I punch myself in the head hard. Sometimes only once out of frustration, but I mostly hit multiple times until I'm almost knocked out. I see black spots and feel foggy for awhile. I think that I do it because I want to stop what I'm feeling emotionally. I also feel like if I knock myself out, I can't hurt the person I love anymore. Hope this helps, even though it sucks, it's kind of nice to know that I'm not the only one who does this.
I am sorry you are in so much pain and suffering. Unfortunately hitting your head as you do is a cause of traumatic brain injury and concussion. I am not sure what else you might do but you may want to seek other alternatives.

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what can you do in the moment instead of hurting yourself soothe yourself try hugging a teddie or pillow try writing down your feelings what can you do to deescalate your anger ?
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One of my littles self harms by punching herself or banging her head. We always know when she has been out because when we come back the body is sore and covered in bruises.
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Old May 01, 2019, 07:43 PM
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I score very high in borderline personality disorder and hit myself in my head and sometimes stomach too often but I'm trying my best to stop it. One time after hitting my head I had problems using my right fingers for a few days.

This is a form of self hate, right? For me it just feels so good. During those moments I just want to squeeze the life out of this body.
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Although I know there is another thread with the same subject, I decided to start a new one because I felt that some of the messages in the other thread were condoning hitting yourself/punching yourself, which I believe it should be considered on the same level as cutting, ie: it is self harm.

I guess I am mostly seeking advice and also wondering if anyone else has this issue. Unfortunately, I am also a cutter, so essentially I have issues with self-harm. And I am very ashamed about this and would not disclose this to anyone but this private forum.

When I am really really upset, disconnected, and having what I call an "episode" I sometimes get very very angry (usually at myself or how I am feeling) and I will repeatedly punch myself in the head with fists very hard. It is really horrible and I always feel awful afterwards and dizzy. Unfortunately, last night I did this for quite sometime. I finally stopped when I really scared my partner and he held me down. All day today my head has felt sort of murky, bad headache and after some Advil, it still kind of aches. I am sure it is just sore from what I did. I did some research online and it seems you can't really cause a concussion or anything, although I think the emotional effects are really terrible. Perhaps it was due to my episode and issue last night, which was really awful and I won't go into it, but I have felt very out of it all day. Unable to focus or think clearly at work. (I did not want to come in, but that's another story)

I guess I was just wondering if anyone that has Borderline Personality Disorder or anyone else, do you sometimes have these reactions also? It is unfortunately something I have done ever since I was a teenager. Often it was related to a very intense emotionally abusive fight or argument with someone, where I became extremely upset.

In addition, when I am so upset and revved up and out of sorts, what should I do? I was told to use a rubber band on my wrist and snap it. I don't want to be inappropriate but I did that method before and after my head punching and now my wrist is really bruised and swollen, so apparently that is not the best method either.

Any help, advice, or similar experiences would be helpful. Thank you.
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Old Jun 29, 2019, 05:34 PM
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I don't do the punching but I do hit my hands if I get upset. For example last year this nurse ignored me and falsely accused me of falling in love with her. Anyway I began scratching and hitting both my hands. Still have the scars.
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My brother hits himself in the face until he has black eyes and such... I scratch and pinch and hit very hard objects.
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I know someone who does something similar to that, but he doesn't go until he's bruised; he just does it a few times, then manages to get his emotions under control.
Different story for me--if I'm going to hit/punch myself, or do that to something that can hurt me, I'm going all-in. I'll bruise myself, cut myself, or basically do anything that leaves a long-lasting mark on my body. I don't recommend doing it to that extreme, but if absolutely necessary, try to find a different way to cope. That's what my therapist told me, but it doesn't work for me. It might work for you, but then again, you're different than I am.
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I did it for a short while in my life, when my frustration and anger, and confusion about whether it is my mental health or bad relationships was at it’s peak. I decided it is bad relationships I suffer, and I am pretty ok. I stopped doing anything to hurt myself now. It’s been six months. During that time, I was diagnosed borderline traits, probably because of that SH. It was only a short-lived means of coping after extreme stress and exasperation! I never did it before (35 years old) and I don’t do it anymore in my early 50’s.
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Hello moomoocows: Yes. I have a history of head hitting and head banging. And I want to warn you... as a result of my relentless head banging (more-so than hitting, I believe) I now have Meniere's Disease which is a condition of the inner ear and tinnitus (constant ringing in the ears.) These conditions can be managed but not cured. I also have had a detached retina in one eye which I suspect was related to my self-harm activities.

There's more to be concerned about when you talk about head hitting / banging than concussions. So I would like to strongly recommend that, if you are not already receiving help for this, you do so. Over the long haul, there can be some really difficult consequences.

You mentioned that you tried the rubber band idea. Another thing I've heard suggested is to make a list of things you really like to do. Then when you feel like self-harming, pick out an activity from the list & do that, or a couple of the activities from your list, until the urge passes. But, really, this is something you should get professional help with. There can be serious long-term consequences for hitting or banging your head.
I am currently do this myself three days ago I begin to get dizzy and has a bad headache!
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Old Jul 02, 2019, 08:59 PM
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Hi Moomoocows, I suffer in a similar way. When I have arguments with loved ones I can become extremly distressed and emotional about it. I don't know if my attitude changes when I'm going "into one" of those moods and then the argument comes from that, or if the emotional response comes solely from the argument. I do then often feel like I'm shaking profusely and get pins and needles sensations in my face. I feel utterly overwhelmed by anger, disappointment, sadness and fear. I become so overwhelmed at points that I know there needs to be a massive release of some sort to return to a more normal (whatever that is!) and natural calmed state. Inevitably I have found that after some time of distress with no let up I somehow subconsciously decide that I need to release the negative energy and that's when in past situations I have self harmed through punching myself repeatedly as hard as I can. I have punched myself all over my legs and head and face before. Afterwards I am left feeling some relief from the overwhelming emotions, however, I am left feeling very ashamed and I feel really down on myself and depressed (not to mention exhausted) In my search for an answer to stopping this compulsive behaviour I have realised that my being ashamed and afraid of behaving that way just adds to ill feeling about myself and perpetuate the negative cycles. It is terribly embarrassing when I come round from such episodes, as I am aware of how similar to a childs temper tantrum they are! I also feel disappointed in myself for not being able to just stop it. I've decided at this point in my life that what I need is to truly love myself and hating that part of me is not helpful. I am still trying to accomplish this. We all have different sides to us and I need to learn to love the dark AND the light sides of myself. I decided and promised myself that no matter what I must at least TRY to find solutions because giving up on myself simply isn't an option! This is my first sharing of this issue with anyone other than my husband, but I had to let you know that you aren't the only one.
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I just want to thank you for sharing this. I find it interesting that your username is Ying and Yang (light and dark) and that you discuss this in your post. I'm currently coming to terms with my mental health issues (GAD and depression), trying not to hate myself, because this just makes it worse. I punch myself in the head to deal with moments that are too frustrating to let go of in any other way. But I need to find another way that isn't damaging to my body. I've been suffering from tinnitus and being a musician, this really sucks. Anyway, I found for your post and made an account just to reply and say thank you, I feel inspired to be more loving of myself. I think I'm self-punishing on many levels, I don't desire sex or even self-love (masturbation) at all anymore, I don't know if that's something that is connected to self-harm. Thanks again for sharing. Am going to look into this more. Best, AK x
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I've done this in the past, my explanation for my actions was that I was attempting to make a conversation-piece or look tough the next time I was in public. Guys with bruises on their face do tend to attract women occasionally. This doesn't seem to explain why you do it, but I figured I'd share
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I have this problem as well. It stems from bad upbringing and undiagnosed disorders (I'm pretty sure). One accident leads to another and feels like a jolt to my nerves where suddenly I can't function or focus and my nerves feel like they're about to explode. Before I know it, I've had one to five spastic problems on top of each other which causes extreme frustration and rage, then the punching starts. I repeatedly punch the side of my face until exhaustion. What's worse it the embarrassment of being heard or caught which makes me hate myself even more. This leads to more self-abuse. Days like that, all I can do to avoid having an awful day is go to sleep.
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I'm more of a wall puncher. I too si by cutting... but when I get overwhealmed and have to 'reboot' as I consider it... inanimate objects are fair game.

I can appreciate that it can be (I've been told) intimidating to others... but there is no 'actual agreesion'... especially not towards another.. my brain just blocks and I desperately need some sort of release to unblock it.
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This is, unfortunately, a somewhat common occurrence for me if/when I'm manic or really angry. I have gotten better with it over time. It's definitely not something I want to do. I've got scarring on multiple knuckles and I don't really want more.
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Just google searched hitting myself after a recent episode and groggy aftermath. I greatly appreciate the post and am more relaxed (I guess) to know I'm not alone. I hit myself because I want to die and I hate myself so I do t se the point in taking care of myself at all anymore. It's pretty sad I guess but I don't know any different. I've been hitting myself and pulling my hair since I was a child right where my mother would hit me. I guess I figure I'm not good enough for love so I hit myself just hoping I'll cause some damage and finally get the hell out of here. After I have an episode I am also groggy and my head can't be touched it's always so tender. Not sure what to do anymore so I'm looking into therapists but it's come to my conclusion that I won't really get what I need from some rando. All I know is they tell me I'm depressed and have anxiety but do depressed people scratch their bodies on the reg, hit themselves to die, slam their head into doors, get overwhelmed with technology that become physically angry and destroy it? I'm sure that depressed people do some of those things hit I think my anger has something to do with my negative reactions. I'm just scared to let people know other my my boyfriend and mother.
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Me and my sisters are bipolar I. Before we had treatment, we had violent fist fights. I have no reason why, but it makes me feel better having online fist fights with another woman. Maybe, because the feelings I get with the fight makes me hate myself less. When I hate myself less, I stop thinking of hurting myself for real. Strange, but for me it helps.
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I used to do this from about middle school age up through my early twenties. Sometimes I would give myself nosebleeds. I can't remember the last time I had an episode but it's been years. However, I am worried about the long-term health problems I may have from what I used to do. I already know I gave myself/worsened TMJ disorder because of it and have had a chronic neck ache since I was 23. I'm hoping that's the worst of it but I'm not so sure.

I would advice anybody who is still doing this to get some kind of help. There are other ways to deal with your anger/emotions than self-harm.
I'm back on here dealing with this issue again. I was demoted at my job before Thanksgiving from IT to customer service/call center and this issue has resurfaced. I'm lucky nowadays if I can make it through a day without doing this. I hate it and it's ruining my life. I feel terrible the rest of the day when it happens.

The trigger for me is getting an angry customer who is overwhelmed and doesn't listen. It's especially bad if they start insulting me or accusing me of something. It was that way back in my early twenties at my last call center job and it's that way now.

The problem went completely away when I moved to an IT job but now that I'm back doing call center work it has returned. I think it's related to PTSD from childhood and verbal abuse from my parents. How can I stop having these episodes? I can be conscious of it but when one of those calls comes in and the yelling starts, it's a trigger and I cannot stop myself. The fact I was demoted despite being with the company seven years and always getting great reviews is another factor. It's been a huge self-esteem hit. I'll try the rubber band thing maybe.

I need to find another job but I have to quit cannabis use first. I'm currently 23 days clean and am pushing for about 60 before I start looking for a new job. That way I can be certain to pass a pre-employment drug screening.
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I also hit myself in the head. HARD. Brutally hard. Started in my mid teens I think. Been doing it for decades (yes, decades). To any younger people reading this, you may want to get some help with this. No, I don't mean to tell you what to do because I hate it when people tell me what to do. But I have severe headaches daily. I have tinnitus. I almost always do this to the right side of my head (I'm right handed) and my right eye has had several problems over the last 10 years or so: detached retina, vein occlusion, etc.


I'm seeing a therapist now that is actually addressing this. I should say "trying" to address this - I'm a difficult patient . My previous 3 therapists, when I would hit myself IN SESSION, either ignored it (yep, completely ignored the violence right in front of them) or simply said "hey, cut it out". At the recommendation of my current therapist I'm going to get some brain scans to see what the damage might be. I just want to know. The scans are by no means a treatment but purely informational.

The common, simple DBT-type distress tolerance skills like snapping a rubber band or holding an ice cube simply don't work for me. I'm sorry but the avalanche of emotion can't be held back by a rubber band or an ice cube. It's like trying to hold back the ocean with a broom.

Yeah, this is fun.
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