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Old Dec 07, 2014, 12:08 AM
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Any suggestions on curbing this ? My team and I are fresh out of ideas and I can't s em to kick the habit it's getting to be a evening routine and to the point where I'm depending on it. Any help would be appreciated.

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Old Dec 07, 2014, 12:38 AM
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Depending on what?

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On the med OD to function and relax.

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Old Dec 07, 2014, 01:16 AM
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Never heard of a med called OD. And if you were over dosing on a med that means hospital, stomach pumped, all that

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Are you taking something for anxiety but taking too much of it at night? Is that what you mean?
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Old Dec 07, 2014, 01:23 AM
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I'm not trying to be a smart *** but what med? And how much are you taking? And who is your team?

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Old Dec 07, 2014, 01:42 AM
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Never heard of a med called OD. And if you were over dosing on a med that means hospital, stomach pumped, all that

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No depending on overdosing not a med called od

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Old Dec 07, 2014, 01:44 AM
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Are you taking something for anxiety but taking too much of it at night? Is that what you mean?

Yes I used to take Ativan before they took it off since I had stopped using it often ,and not so much that at night more so diet supplements or cold medicines,pain medication etc I od on.

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Old Dec 07, 2014, 01:47 AM
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I'm not trying to be a smart *** but what med? And how much are you taking? And who is your team?

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I'm taking any medicines i have and can get my hands on like cold medicine,pain medication and mental health prescribed medication ,multi vitamins etc in obsessive like 24-36 pills at least

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Old Dec 07, 2014, 02:04 AM
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Anyone explained to you the suffering you will experience if you mess up your liver?

My liver almost failed and that was one of the most painful experiences of my life. Irritating too. Not fun being woken up in the middle of the night so they can take blood, or walking around with a drip in your arm for a week.

Now imagine if your liver actually gave in?

Why do you take them? Are you attempting to hurt yourself? You want the buzz?

Is there also a reason you aren't in emergency care or something? You seem pretty high risk for at least an accidental suicide.
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Old Dec 07, 2014, 03:05 AM
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I'm taking any medicines i have and can get my hands on like cold medicine,pain medication and mental health prescribed medication ,multi vitamins etc in obsessive like 24-36 pills at least

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Oh by the way I have a Assertive Community Team of professionals I work with on a daily basis ,I'm addicted to the false sense of calming it gives me the meds when I od as well as the numbness I get as well as the high sometimes .

I feel I deserve what I get as a result of the od and have the attitude of what happens will happen although I know that is not an excuse nor does it justify what I am doing , my team is concerned and is aware of what I am doing an has taken steps to take some of the meds away from me and I suppose they are trying to give me the be benefit of the doubt as well as take a chance that I would value the trusting relationship versus the od on meds.

I certainly am sorry to hear about the person who posted about their bad experience I truly appreciate hearing it though it did kinda put me off of od urges.

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Old Dec 07, 2014, 06:37 AM
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I understand a little better. I wouldn't call it addiction in the traditional sense. An addict would never take 40 vitamins because he knows it will not get him high. I think it is more of a self harm thing. I have really only seen something similar one other time. In this thread.

http://forums.psychcentral.com/addic...ependancy.html

Why do you feel you need to harm and punish yourself?
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Old Dec 07, 2014, 07:25 AM
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What have you and your team tried to do so far to prevent you from ODing?
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Old Dec 07, 2014, 11:48 AM
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What have you and your team tried to do so far to prevent you from ODing?

They tried to take away medications and and also do dbt behavior chains to find out the cause of this all.
They tried to threaten to put me in a hospital or tell call the police on me or have my Dad manage them and give them to me when I need them .

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Old Dec 07, 2014, 12:01 PM
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I understand a little better. I wouldn't call it addiction in the traditional sense. An addict would never take 40 vitamins because he knows it will not get him high. I think it is more of a self harm thing. I have really only seen something similar one other time. In this thread.

http://forums.psychcentral.com/addic...ependancy.html

Why do you feel you need to harm and punish yourself?

I have always felt this way and feel the need to do it punish myself for all the bad stuff and hurt myself as well to feel something other then my emotions but yet still want to feel numb.

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I have always felt this way and feel the need to do it punish myself for all the bad stuff and hurt myself as well to feel something other then my emotions but yet still want to feel numb.

Did you experience trauma in childhood? If so that could be the cause of your need to punish yourself. Psychotherapy would probably help a lot more than ACT taking your medications away and threatening hospitalization. Have they referred you to a DBT program?

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Old Dec 07, 2014, 03:22 PM
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Did you experience trauma in childhood? If so that could be the cause of your need to punish yourself. Psychotherapy would probably help a lot more than ACT taking your medications away and threatening hospitalization. Have they referred you to a DBT program?


Yes and they do have that DBT program but I'm Leary of DbT helping but I'm not sure what else to do and it's just I can't seem to stop popping pills it's like I can't function without popping pills

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I see my psychiatrist tomorrow about the medications what do guys suggest ?
and what have your providers done in the past that have helped you kick the habit ?
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Personally I went to a drug and alcohol treatment center and joined AA. Have been clean and sober 20 years and take my meds exactly as prescribed.

I think your problem is different though. For example, I would never take 30 vitamins or 30 Tylenol. To me there would be absolutely no point unless I could get high and I would not be trying to harm myself. I was harming myself but the point was to get high.

I would be totally honest with the psychiatrist and if you can have your dad give you your meds as prescribed, start there.

What meds are you taking?

I think you should go to DBT.

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Old Dec 08, 2014, 03:42 PM
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I see my psychiatrist tomorrow about the medications what do guys suggest ?
and what have your providers done in the past that have helped you kick the habit ?

Can you discuss your self-harm urges? It really needs to be treated because you are putting your life at risk.

Why don't you want to do DBT? It may help. Psychotherapy would help too. Are you in psychotherapy?



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Old Dec 08, 2014, 05:32 PM
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Can you discuss your self-harm urges? It really needs to be treated because you are putting your life at risk.

Why don't you want to do DBT? It may help. Psychotherapy would help too. Are you in psychotherapy?



Yes I can and I have been discussing this with my team alot as well and I know i am ,I am scared as well but feel like what happens may happen yet so im not even sure where i yet still have to stand on this all . I just don't believe DBT is the only miracle or answer that is all I have long rejected DBT being the only miracle help for me as people have always told me it is the only thing they feel can really help me . I am in therapy but sometimes even that can trigger me and I end up even worse in the end and now they are making me do behavior chains which totally exhaust me mentally and emotionally as well ughh but might as well try for them as they are only trying to help and really try to get to the bottom of this .
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What all pills do you pop and how many?

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Presently I on;ly pop the morning and night meds along with health pills and quite alot which i wont mention dont want to trigger anyone.
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Old Dec 08, 2014, 07:17 PM
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If you are abusing your psyche meds don't you run out before you can get a refill?

Are you willing to let your dad dispense them?

I don't understand the reluctance to DBT. It is a therapy used for lots of things. Can't hurt.

This is all very very hard on your liver.

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If you are abusing your psyche meds don't you run out before you can get a refill?

Are you willing to let your dad dispense them?

I don't understand the reluctance to DBT. It is a therapy used for lots of things. Can't hurt.

This is all very very hard on your liver.

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I do but my team manages the meds so I get more the next day and they get my refills fast and no I'm not willing it would make things worse.

My nurse thinks I'm testing the team by doing the overdosing and said I could do whatever I wanted with otc meds since they don't have control over that . I feel like my nurse is judging me and labeling me with whatever.

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