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back then people did not masturbate because porn was not widely accessible, am i right? i feel like the sole reason how i discovered masturbation was when a girl in middle school asked me if i masturbated and then she asked me to measure something... eww it was inappropriate but we had a fun talk and i don't really regret it. come to think of it, it was hilarious. she then confessed to me that one of our mutual friends had dared her and so she took the dare and did it. another possible reason is my discovery through porn. what i saw that day changed me. the next week i started to masturbate. it was horrible and i wish i had never watched porn or anything. it's weird. when do people stop or at least outgrow it? |
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I think you're right about the accessibility of porn these days. Back in my day there were just magazines with pictures of nude women in them. I remember "borrowing" my father's Playboy magazines & ...well, you get the picture. It didn't become an obsession, though. I eventually met some girls I really liked & porn became a pretty trivial thing. I'm sure the same will happen to you. Be patient with yourself.
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yeah why else do you think i want to quit? i'm too old for that.
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![]() HOWEVER, if you have LOST weight at your age, you should talk to a family doctor. You should be still growing and not losing weight. This is an issue to bring up with a GP or a family doctor. As for height, two things: genetics and different rates of growth. The friend maybe growing at faster rate and you may still catch up with him later - I believe males can grow in height until they turn 25. Or, he just may have different genes and be taller because of that. |
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for some reason every time i look up a word, every time i learn something new, every time i talk about how wearing bands around my arm may deter me from masturbating, it happens. don't know why.
maybe it had to do with my taking my teacher's dictionary and never giving it back and now whenever i want to learn a new word, i cannot retain it. you see, what goes around comes around. then after that, i would masturbate the very next day. |
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So I do not think this is something you can be "too old" for. I have a fairly new sexual partner who has said that he believes in the benefit of masturbating because he experiences things while masturbating that he does not experience while having sex with a woman. I do not know much about that part of his life, but I can see that in partner sex with me, he has anxiety about whether I would have an orgasm, enjoy myself, etc. He worries that I am not enjoying myself as much as I should. So he is basically being considerate and polite and all of that. While the qualities of being considerate and polite are commendable, I can see how the worry about my joy or lack thereof would interfere with his enjoyment (although he does enjoy himself), and when he is masturbating, he is free from the worry and anxiety. There might be a myriad other reasons to masturbate, but the freedom from worry and anxiety may be one of those, for him, and, conceivably, for other people who are extra considerate and polite but happen to have partners who fail to have 10 earth shattering orgasms in a row during each sex session. So, he has been masturbating since age 12. What can I say - I think he is lucky - I did not know about this kind of fun when I was 12. Also, he has 4 children and has great relationships with all of them and spends lots of time with them and is successful academically having done a Master's degree at a reputable university and is professionally successful and has taken a start-up from conception to being purchased by a big company (this does not mean anything to you, perhaps, but basically it is just one of the ways people can be professionally successful), etc. etc., IN OTHER WORDS, masturbation does not cause him any trouble. He is more successful and accomplished than a whole lot of other people. Note that I do not say that masturbation has CAUSED him to be so successful, because I am being very careful with what is called "causation" - saying that thing A occurs beCAUSE of thing B. You are not being careful with causation - you think that your height is not as big as your friend's height beCAUSE of your masturbation, or that you are too skinny beCAUSE of your masturbation. Note that you can LEARN to be more careful with CAUSATION - you can fix your mind and develop a more rational train of thought. |
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I have never heard of anybody who would observe his face the next day after masturbation to see if it has changed its shape... you are the first... |
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I'm kind of narcissistic, or maybe ocd, because i look at myself too much in the mirror that sometimes i wish i could be more attractive. What i meant when i said i starve myself was that i tend to not eat a lot afterschool or if i wake up late on spring break or anything like that i usually wait an hour. |
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I'll make millions with my new book, The Masturbation Diet Plan. I'm sure it will be a NYT bestseller...
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So people still had access to technology, but to a lesser extent, and they still masturbated to whatever porn they had available, PLUS, they masturbated to their own fantasies - many people have brains that are able to cause them to have great orgasms without any porn, and I have such a brain and am lucky that I do, PLUS, some people can just masturbate mechanically, without any imagery or fantasy, and I used to be this way but right now am not. I do not know whether you have ever heard of it, but masturbation is mentioned in the Bible. Usually, people fuss about how exactly it is mentioned and the various "norms" - should people masturbate or should not they masturbate, etc., in other words, there are people who try to use the Bible as a source of a prescription for their private behavior. This is one of the many ways to use the Bible. Another way to use the Bible is to view it as a historical record, and to say - Aha, the Bible mentions masturbation so it must have been practiced back then. Written evidence, basically. So people have always masturbated and you are not the first one and not the last one. |
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haha you're so comical.
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where in the bible does it say that masturbation ever took place? |
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i personally don't want to masturbate. if i can, i would either get circumcized or castrated. man, i can't believe the teenagers my age don't give a darn about masturbation, thinking that it's all good and normal whereas i am here obsessing over it.
i feel like this obsession has taught me a valuable lesson; the more i feel guilty and the more i think about it hte less likely it is going to disappear. it's like a test to me. |
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You have a very deep problem with logical thinking - I do not want to frighten you with that or sadden you, but I have talked to you a lot on here and have seen you talk to others a lot and I must tell you that you do have this problem. This problem is REAL. Your problem with masturbation is IMAGINARY. The REAL problem with your issues with logic MAY VERY WELL cause you to be unsuccessful in the future. My current sexual partner does not have your problems with logical thinking - he has a clear mind. You do not have a clear mind. emgreen has suggested that you just have unwarranted guilt that you bring upon yourself; I think he is right and you do, but that is not the whole story with you. The whole story with you is that you are impenetrable to any arguments based on logic and do not learn. Many people have tried their best to explain to you that masturbation cannot cause stunted growth or whatever it is that you do not like about your height. You do not integrate that information, but instead you say that masturbation causes pimples and difficulties with math. In other words, you attribute more and more outrageously unrelated things to masturbation. I have seen people with unwarranted guilt around here, and have seen them a lot, but I have never seen a person who would be so stubborn in his completely irrational beliefs about masturbation, in general, and about causation, in particular - you repeat "what goes around comes around" in a way that is beyond any human comprehension. I am driven to ask you the following question: "Does your masturbation make the weather change from sunny to cloudy or does your masturbation affect YOU and only YOU and not third parties, other people, the weather, the state of the economy, etc. etc.?" On a more serious note... I would print out these multiple threads that you have running, not now, but later, when you hopefully go to college and have access to counseling at the students' health center, and show them to a counselor as evidence of unusual ways in which your mind works, and ask for help. |
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yeah i rely on my feelings too much. if i feel a certain way then it will cause me to act a certain way. |
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If you want to be castrated, you are in a very bad state and need immediate professional help because that is just completely outrageous and somebody who has had a lot of training and experience should look into your issues. |
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i can be logical but i can also be illogical.
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I had stomach aches that I attributed to drinking milk. I decided that I am lactose intolerant. I start buying Lactaid, which costs twice as much as ordinary milk. Then I went to Moscow for two weeks, and there is no Lactaid available in Moscow, so I drank ordinary milk and had no stomach aches. I came back to the States and decided to try buying ordinary milk and see what happens. It has been more than three months on ordinary milk and I do not have stomach aches. So I had COINCIDENTAL stomach aches that I ATTRIBUTED to lactose intolerance, seeing a PATTERN where there was NONE. OK? It is also a human quality to see patterns where there are none, because humans tend to want to make sense of what is around them and see some order, and, also, tend to underestimate the role of chance. So they see patterns where there are none. MOREOVER, since you BELIEVE that masturbation causes your math difficulties, you INFLUENCE yourself by this BELIEF which IN TURN makes you have math difficulties. Do you get it? |
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