feeling like watching porn

well... that describes 99% of people on Earth

oh, that makes sense now. it's kind of like a self-fulfilling prophecy. if we don't get rid of those irrational beliefs, then we won't be able to progress. i now realize that feeling shame for my actions won't cut it, but if i want to change i should list my mistakes and make mends.

oh, that makes sense now. it's kind of like a self-fulfilling prophecy. if we don't get rid of those irrational beliefs, then we won't be able to progress. i now realize that feeling shame for my actions won't cut it, but if i want to change i should list my mistakes and make amends.

2 + 2 = Boner...I can see the logic now.

oops i double posted

yeah i'm so glad that i have a teacher this year who's able to dispel my fears that i had several years ago. he said it mostly had something to do with my limbic system, which has a lot to do with emotional reasoning, like if something is compatible with my worldviews, then i will approve of it, and if i don't like or disagree with something, then i will bounce it all out. makes sense now. thanks guys.

in a number of places, the most famous is

Onan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

it is very confusing because they talk how that may be not about masturbation but about withdrawal from intercourse in order to avoid conception and conception needed to take place because Onan had the duty to impregnate the widow of his brother who would have otherwise remained childless and the paternal line would have been broken etc. so Onan "spilled his seed" (did not ejaculate inside the woman's vagina) and that was his wrongdoing and all sorts of horrible things happened to Onan as a result, and, to sum, he died prematurely. And various commentators have interpreted it in various ways and I am sure that someone would come with yet more ways to interpret it in the future, because the power of human imagination is boundless. There are many readings of the Biblical text and one of the readings holds that Onan's sin was in that he was wasteful. Basically, sperm is a valuable resource and you should not waste it.

Well, since men have more than enough sperm, it does not seem to be that they should worry so much about wasting it. In general, not wasting resources that can be in a short supply is a good idea, but sperm just does not seem to be such a resource, especially for you...

And there are still other people who believe that the Bible does not mention masturbation, so they would disagree that it can be used as a historical record to prove that masturbation existed - see Acts 17:11 Archive: Masturbation, What Does the Bible Say?

Instead of sending you to the Bible or Bible commentary, let me send you to the legacy of Gustav Klimt, who was a great artist in Austria about a century ago. His most famous work of art is "the kiss"
File:Gustav Klimt 016.jpg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

but he also explored masturbation in his art, which is less famous:

File:Klimt Mulher sentada.jpg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So you can see that women masturbated in the beginning of the 20th century, BEFORE the advent of the INTERNET.

Is that good enough for you?

umm yes as long as there are no side effects

all sorts of things can come from stress. you still do not see that masturbation is a pleasurable activity in its own right, so you do not need to EXPLAIN it.

further, I pointed out that you are illogical in how you go about ATTRIBUTING various things to masturbation - math aptitude, pimples, etc.

you are responding that you do not have issues with logic because you realize that masturbation can be ATTRIBUTED to stress.

Your response is illogical - I was not talking about what you ATTRIBUTE MASTURBATION TO, but instead, I was talking about what you ATTRIBUTE TO MASTURBATION - a big difference. So you are still being illogical.

OK great, we are making progress, finally...

the fact that you're telling me this makes me feel less guilt, which in turn makes me want to masturbate and watch porn even more since i should not be feeling any shame for my actions. another thing is that whenever i see a porn image flashing in my mind over and over, i want to get instant gratification.

about self-fulfilling prophecy - yes, you got it fully and you are being rational and logical and appropriate in calling it as a self-fulfilling prophecy.

In regards to your mistakes and making amends - what is that about? the dictionary incident or something else?

i am now putting myself in front of temptation on purpose to see if i can resist it. i hope that i can find porn unappealing.

well, good with less shame.

With hope, you will grow a bit older and have relationships with real women so you will be having some partner sex and some masturbation and will find some sweet spot balancing the two.

It'll make you blind & grow hair on the palms of your hands . Kidding. Don't take things so seriously, hey.

I do not think that you can will it. I find porn unappealing because it does not appeal to me - I do not will it.

You generally cannot will what appeals to you.

Say, Gustav Klimt, whom I mentioned earlier, appeals to me a great deal, but Salvador Dali, another famous painter of the 20th century, does not appeal to me - I find his paintings utterly disgusting.

none of that has anything to do with WILL.

So I do not think that you will succeed in what you are trying to do. I would not be able to will myself out of liking Klimt, OR, into liking Dali.

um i think i can. i just tried to view porn and boy it was not appealing. it seems like the things that they do are so routine. it's like these guys are living in a rut or something.

i have seen it all from oral to **** to anything. i don't think that it'll change. i hope i can find something better to do than to watch that. thanks guys for all the support.

OK, somewhere on this long thread I thought I saw the mention of pimples. You thought that pimples (as well as bad weather and the dismal state of the economy) is caused by masturbation, and emgreen assured you that it is not.

That was great of emgreen.

now let me tell you what you need to do about pimples.

1) get a prescription for Retin-A, either from a general practitioner or pediatrician or family doctor
2) use Retin-A (a very small amount of it) nightly, spreading a thin film on your face, avoiding lips and eyes
3) never wash your face more than once a day, and even that is optional.
4) if you doctor agrees, you can boost Retin-A with benzoyl peroxide wash, ideally 10% concentration, such as Amazon.com: Topix Benzoyl Peroxide 10% Wash 8 oz bottle: Beauty, OTC
5) do not use salicylic acid products
6) do not limit chocolate or other foods that in the past were believed to cause acne - all of those beliefs are old wives' tales
7) if your face gets too dry, use Retin-A every other night.
8) Continue to use Retin-A for the rest of your life as you will be looking younger at age 70 if you keep using it.
9) do not do anything else with your skin, buy any other products for your skin, or anything else - Retin-A is a must and benzoyl peroxide is an optional boost.

Hope that helps... you should see results within a couple of months.

that is good.

what is happening though is not that you are WILLING to find porn unappealing.

what is happening is that BOREDOM sets in. Your use of the word "routine", see in bold above, confirms that boredom does set in. that is great.

And BOREDOM is a wonderful thing because it leads us to make our lives more interesting and diversified without will power and too much thinking.

Enjoy!

boredom makes me sick. i watch porn when i'm bored, when i'm alone. it also has to do with the fact that i'm an only child. i'm left alone unsupervised most of the time and when i wander into some site that i love i want to go on it again. but not to an excessive degree.
i don't want to watch it anymore!

Porn Addiction and Sex Addiction: What’s the Difference? | Sex and Intimacy

one of the headings say porn leads to desensitizing and craving.
there are lies that come with porn as well, like women are objects or pornography is just sheer fun. plus a guy might get physically involved with some girl who does not want to get involved at all. those are two things that i am worried about.

You need to stop thinking about watching or not watching and do something productive that will improve your quality of life.

I would suggest making an appointment with a doctor (dermatologist better, but a GP OK, as well) to take care of your acne. Do that or ask your parents to do that.

What is the problem with pornography just being sheer fun? What else should it be? A difficult mathematical problem? What is the point in all of that?

Which girl does not want to get involved? A porn actress? Porn actresses in commercial porn are paid for their time and skill. They get involved because of the monetary compensation. Why do you worry about that?

What two things are you worried about? You have listed desensitizing, craving, women as objects, fun, a girl who does not get involved - 5 things, unless I am bad at counting on my fingers. Which two do you mean??

I meant your getting bored WITH porn, because it is so ROUTINE.

I have read this.

The guy says:

"There are huge numbers of men and women who are now addicted to porn that never would be if it weren’t for the Internet. My sex addiction counseling practice proves this to me daily."

So there are psychics.

Psychics get money for their services. It does not mean that people who seek the services of psychics get anything from those services. But they believe, and it is enough for them to make a donation to psychics.

If people are led to believe that they have sex addiction and need help, they might very well make a donation to the author of the article you quoted.

The guy in the article says that he is a "Certified Sex Addiction Counselor" so there must be some body that certifies addiction counselors.

Then does not mean much.

Why?
There is also

American Association of Psychics and Mediums
American Psychic directory. The best psychics in the USA offering psychic reading

So let us see what the APA (psychiatry) says so far.

So far it has not put in sexual addiction into DSM-V (the main book according to which people are diagnosed).

If it ever puts in into some future DSM-VI or higher, it would require something severe to qualify for a diagnosis. Say, a person cannot stop masturbating at work and loses his job through that. You are not masturbating at school. You are masturbating in the privacy of your own room. So you should not be reading about sex addiction. You should be spending your time more productively than you are now - right now you are reading articles by questionable authors about a disease that has not yet been recognized and if it ever gets recognized, you would not meet the diagnostic criteria for it. So you are wasting your time.

What tiny bit of progress we seemed to have made recently has been reversed. You sort of started becoming more logical and then you listed 5 things and said that you were worried about those 2 things. ??? how is that logical???

To sum up, I think you have problems with reasoning and logic and do not have problems with porn other than that you are bored because you do not spend enough time playing sports, with friends, etc. To the extent that you see yourself having a problem with porn, you are wasting your time thinking whether it has bad side effects because even if it were to have bad side effects, the knowledge of those side effects would not make you stop. And, you do not need to stop - you need to diversify your activities and that diversification would lead to your decreasing the amount of time you watch porn as a collateral benefit.

I wish you luck and hope that someone would help you get a clearer mind one day or that you would help yourself.