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Old Sep 27, 2012, 01:34 PM
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Skipper: I cannot say that i have followed your posts, I have not been around much on the site until the past few days. I had to take a break as life became hectic then was still crazy but in a good way. I understand what you are saying and you dont seem to be delusional. and i happen to think German is a very sexy language. i have never really been into nazis, i guess purely for the fact that they were men, and i am not attracted to men. However as i said before i would love to get to know you.

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Old Sep 27, 2012, 01:45 PM
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I was surprised to read in your most recent post that you feel that your fetish is an "issue." Perhaps if you had presented it that way, people would have responded differently. Other posts have made it seem that you don't think it is a problem, you are proud of it, and everyone who disagrees with your behavior is wrong. I had no idea that you had guilt, worries, and moral conflict.
Like I said, I've been making posts about my interest leading to fascination leading to fetish over the past six months and thought people had been following me.

I feel a lot of guilt but I don't always express it. I know what the Nazis did was wrong and I feel guilty I find them attractive, but my T said not to beat myself up about it. I know the differences between right and wrong, and I don't find what they did to be arousing, it is the power and the uniforms and other aspects of it. My T said I shouldn't feel guilty, so I try not to.

I worry alot about it. My best friend is Jewish and the subject is a very heated topic. I worry about school because in Drama I want to incorporate being a Nazi or Jew during the skits and I know there are certain limits I'm not allowed to cross, and in my work I found a Holocaust curriculum for when we teach tolerance, and I have a feeling I will be in charge of teaching that curriculum, mainly because I want to.

I love Jewish culture and I believe in love and equality, so my moral compass is questioned when I spend my time watching movies about hatred and intolerance. I dont know why, but I find comfort in watching those movies, perhaps I can empathize with the Jews, or I enjoy indulging in my violent side in a safe environment where I know no one will be hurt by my watching movies or wearing uniforms.

And I recently found someone into Nazi fetish, we're not bf/gf yet or anything, but I wore my uniform and he was in awe and I've never had that experience/reaction from someone finding me so attractive. I feel very sexy wearing that uniform and very empowered.

I am very excited about my fetish and enjoy it, but at the same time I am very doubtful about myself and wondering if I am a bad person for enjoying something so hateful.
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Old Sep 27, 2012, 01:46 PM
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It's still something I'm trying to accept. I'm not trying to change it, but it's affecting my relationships and I'm afraid it's going interfere with my classes and my work.
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My T encourages it as long as it is healthy and no one is hurt by it.
Sounds to me like you have really figured it out yourself......there is someone who is being hurt by it......your relationships, possibly your classes & your work. Does that sound like something that T would encourage?
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Old Sep 27, 2012, 03:02 PM
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hey, we - I for one at least - are also considering your age and our own sexual experience when we respond to your posts. so you've ignored a lot of my rather vanilla questions - I can take that at least two ways; you don't understand, or you've surpassed such issues. either way, no skin off my nose (or whatever), eh?
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Old Sep 27, 2012, 06:12 PM
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I don't think you've anything to be ashamed of Doc. What you do behind closed doors on your own time, provided it doesn't hurt anyone, is yours, and not our place to judge. I do wish that it didn't interfere with your relationships, but I do understand you place importance on compatibility with your preferences, so no harm no foul, as I see it (though I would perhaps shy away from taking the Holocaust project if it's out of ulterior motives, and I do encourage you to observe boundaries of taste in the drama's you're a part of, but you seem cognitive of that. ). You have an appropriate grasp on what the uniform can/does mean to some people, and you don't identify yourself with those beliefs. I'd say you're fine.

How does your best friend take it? I hope that isn't included in the relationship difficulty you mentioned. And as far as school and work goes, if I were you, I'd try to make an effort to isolate your fetish and the two. I think that ultimately will be simpler than trying to incorporate it. Business and pleasure, you know?

But as far as the topic goes...and I wish to try to remain as neutral as possible here, but wording makes a world of difference in a question or statement. I think it's owed to anyone who comes on PC to have a objective, non judgmental ear at their disposal, and I think it's owed to the responders from the listeners to have the same courtesy when replying to feedback. I'm not trying to stir the pot or say anyone has violated any sort of "etiquette" or "code" or whathaveyou, but without a clear, tension free line of communication, PC cannot work, and if anything becomes harmful instead of helpful. Just throwing that out there for the benefit of discussion.

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Old Sep 27, 2012, 06:54 PM
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I believe in the absolute right to speak/write freely on the Internet. I also believe that others have the right to speak up, disagree or remark.

Especially on PC where there is a very fine line between being supportive and the opposite (posting whatever one wants and then NOT expecting a little reality). Terms of Use include the agreement that:

(A) Member shall use the Psych Central Network for lawful purposes only. Member shall not post or transmit through the Psych Central Network any material: (i) which violates or infringes in any way upon the rights of others; (ii) which is unlawful, threatening, abusive, defamatory, libelous, invasive of privacy or publicity rights, vulgar, racist, obscene, profane, or is otherwise objectionable; (iii) which encourages conduct that would constitute a criminal offense, gives rise to civil liability, suggests or condones any terrorist act or activity, or otherwise violate any law;

I find the title of the thread and it's content by certain members to be unsupportive of many members...I also find it distasteful, horrifying, insulting, repugnant, vulgar, racist, insensitive and objectionable.

I realize there is a member is struggling with a fetish that is morally and intellectually abhorant.

For all of those that don't quite seem to get the point, I would urge you to study up on "Action T4", the "Pink Triangle", "Untermensch".

I believe very strongly that this thread be removed. It is unsupportive of OTHER members by having it here.
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Old Sep 27, 2012, 09:18 PM
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I believe in the absolute right to speak/write freely on the Internet. I also believe that others have the right to speak up, disagree or remark.

Especially on PC where there is a very fine line between being supportive and the opposite (posting whatever one wants and then NOT expecting a little reality). Terms of Use include the agreement that:

(A) Member shall use the Psych Central Network for lawful purposes only. Member shall not post or transmit through the Psych Central Network any material: (i) which violates or infringes in any way upon the rights of others; (ii) which is unlawful, threatening, abusive, defamatory, libelous, invasive of privacy or publicity rights, vulgar, racist, obscene, profane, or is otherwise objectionable; (iii) which encourages conduct that would constitute a criminal offense, gives rise to civil liability, suggests or condones any terrorist act or activity, or otherwise violate any law;

I find the title of the thread and it's content by certain members to be unsupportive of many members...I also find it distasteful, horrifying, insulting, repugnant, vulgar, racist, insensitive and objectionable.

I realize there is a member is struggling with a fetish that is morally and intellectually abhorant.

For all of those that don't quite seem to get the point, I would urge you to study up on "Action T4", the "Pink Triangle", "Untermensch".

I believe very strongly that this thread be removed. It is unsupportive of OTHER members by having it here.

Nazi. The word itself is distastefully, horrifying, insulting, repugnant, vulgar, racist, insensitive and objectionable.

I am not.

I am not any of those things, yet I feel every single one of those things because I cannot help how I feel about Nazis. I do not encourage what they did, yet members cannot handle my threads because they associate me with what they did.

Sure, remove the thread. But I will continue to post, with the trigger button, and those who cannot understand the difference between adovcating Nazism and seeking help for a Nazi fetish, then stay away. Be warned. I'm not a threat. I'm not out to convert others to whatever the **** you think I am. I'm seeking help, and the small-minded can't get past the cover of the book.

I expected that there would be outcry, and this may be a bit of a stretch, but I expected common sense to be used when clicking on a thread of such a topic. I have a fetish, not a political belief. It seems like you cannot get the point. I never said I was advocating if not unaware of those three words that have nothing to do with the orignal topic of the thread, which was fetishism. This thread is NOT about Nazism, don't make it so!
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Old Sep 27, 2012, 11:51 PM
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In regards to the OP, I couldn't stand feeling horrible, guilty and dirty, so I drove to my dad's work and I had a very long, private chat with my dad about the Nazi characters in my head, my fascination with the Nazis, my feelings of arousal towards the Nazis, my feelings of guilt and loneliness, what people have told me online about their hatred towards the Nazis...everything.

He never questioned my age, morality, or sexual inexperience. He must have told me twenty times that my feelings were normal, natural, and understandable. He wasn't angry or suspicious, he spent a great deal of time talking about fetishes in general and how some fetishes like mine are taboo and best not to talk about on the internet.

So in the end, I did have a discussion about my fetish with my Dad, and it feels so wonderful that I can go to my dad about something that had been a weight on my shoulder for six months and have him be so honest and understanding. I was so worried that it would turn into an argument, but I feel alot closer to my Dad now. And it was a lesson that some things are best kept offline.
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Old Sep 27, 2012, 11:56 PM
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Old Sep 28, 2012, 12:00 AM
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Oui, c'est bon :P

Haha, very ironic I feel very French today.
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Old Sep 28, 2012, 12:32 AM
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Glad you were able to talk to your dad and that he was understanding. I do agree with him (because of personal experiences) that some things are better left off the internet. Even in a place such as PC there is a lot misunderstanding. There are a lot of helpful people and some of the people closest to me are ones i have met here but there are always some that are here to drag others down. It's kinda like the old cliche says, "Misery loves company."
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Old Sep 28, 2012, 01:15 AM
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Glad everything worked out Doc.

Perhaps in everyone's interest to let this topic rest now, and let bygones be bygones?
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Old Sep 28, 2012, 10:19 AM
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I agree. The OP's question has been answered, there's no reason for further discussion.
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