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Old Dec 17, 2014, 12:32 AM
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I didn't mean to hurt you or devalue your experiences. What you went through as a child was horrible; that is an objective fact.

Again, I'm really sorry for everything you went through.

As a proud feminist, I support the rights of everyone-male and female-and believe that everyone's voice is important.

I could go on and on about how much everyone-male and female-is hurt by sexism, gender roles, and gender-based stereotyping, but I don't want to hijack your thread.

I think part of the reason why I reacted so strongly to this is because I can't relate at all to your initial problem...I am a bisexual female, but whenever I have feelings for a man it is always in spite of his manly appearance, not because of it.

But I have nothing against men! Aesthetically, I just find soft curves a lot more attractive than big muscles and body hair.

So we're kind of on opposite ends of the spectrum, haha.

I think it is really interesting how varied people's tastes can be.
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Old Dec 17, 2014, 01:15 PM
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I didn't mean to hurt you or devalue your experiences. What you went through as a child was horrible; that is an objective fact.

Again, I'm really sorry for everything you went through.

As a proud feminist, I support the rights of everyone-male and female-and believe that everyone's voice is important.

I could go on and on about how much everyone-male and female-is hurt by sexism, gender roles, and gender-based stereotyping, but I don't want to hijack your thread.

I think part of the reason why I reacted so strongly to this is because I can't relate at all to your initial problem...I am a bisexual female, but whenever I have feelings for a man it is always in spite of his manly appearance, not because of it.

But I have nothing against men! Aesthetically, I just find soft curves a lot more attractive than big muscles and body hair.

So we're kind of on opposite ends of the spectrum, haha.

I think it is really interesting how varied people's tastes can be.

I'm not actually offended by you personally. I just find modern feminism in the western world to be extremely sexist and toxic. However, I do totally agree with you on gender roles and stereotyping. That is something we as a society needs to overcome. Which is why I find a belief that explains someone's personal struggles by erasing that person's individual experience to reduce them to only their gender and then proceed to blame another gender problematic and counterproductive to the overall goal.

If you really believe that all women are oppressed in the western world by a society of men and their ideas of masculinity that poisons everyone, both collectively and individually, then I don't believe you really know what equality between the sexes really means.

Sexuality is interesting and I do wonder how much of my sexuality plays into this.
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Old Dec 18, 2014, 02:05 AM
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Growlithing, you talk about media so much that I wonder why you are on the consumer side of media? You are supposed to be training towards being on the producer side, no?

Personally, I do not understand the increasingly frequent complaints about media at all, because media is not mandatory. Nobody forces consumers of media to be consumers of media. When I go get pedicures, I take a laptop and write on it while sitting in the massage chair - I do not read women's magazines. Media is the way it is because consumers buy it. Stop buying it (in any form) and you will free yourself from its influence. Very simple and straightforward.
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