[dissy.defect]

the dream i am concerned about it was a series of three different scenes:

- in the first, everyone i knew and cared about was on an island of ice (iceberg?) and at some point i was crushed to death against a wall by my father, who was driving a large construction machine.

- in the second, there was a huge thunderstorm and it was dark, later there was a wood hut thing i was standing next to and some guy i didn't know walked out the door, laughed, and chopped me in half with a sword and i bled to death.

- in the third, there were also some hunters shooting children with tranquilizer guns in a different place, a building of some sort. i was shot too, but escaped because the tranquilizer didn't go in my skin correctly and i pulled it out.

i was disturbed by the fact that no one seemed to think anything was wrong. usually i know when i am dreaming, but this time i didn't, so dying two horrible deaths and then being hunted was kind of traumatic... i'm a little scared to sleep tonight

[MusicMike]

Originally Posted by dissy.defect

the dream i am concerned about it was a series of three different scenes:

- in the first, everyone i knew and cared about was on an island of ice (iceberg?) and at some point i was crushed to death against a wall by my father, who was driving a large construction machine.

- in the second, there was a huge thunderstorm and it was dark, later there was a wood hut thing i was standing next to and some guy i didn't know walked out the door, laughed, and chopped me in half with a sword and i bled to death.

- in the third, there were also some hunters shooting children with tranquilizer guns in a different place, a building of some sort. i was shot too, but escaped because the tranquilizer didn't go in my skin correctly and i pulled it out.

i was disturbed by the fact that no one seemed to think anything was wrong. usually i know when i am dreaming, but this time i didn't, so dying two horrible deaths and then being hunted was kind of traumatic... i'm a little scared to sleep tonight

Can I get some background on your life? Answer only if you are comfortable. How old are you? Do you still live with your family? What was your childhood like? What current emotional issues are you dealing with?

It is possible there is something in your psyche, your unconscious, that doesn't respect life. This might be a defensive response to childhood trauma.

Mike

[medkev13]

Warning :: LONG Response

First off, death is never a bad thing in dreams. The symbolic meaning of death is transition. In the first dream, there is a large image of ice and isolation. (See the connection already? Ice/Ice-o-lation) This reflects a feeling of loneliness and being shunned. The whole family is stuck on this island, which tells me that perhaps you connect your identity to your family unit. But there is a problem - your father is the antagonist, crushing you with some sort of driving equipment. I would dare to ask how your father is affecting your mood? If I had to make a guess I would wager that either you see your dad as smothering/overbearing, or that you see your father as an obstacle toward your family and thus yourself being able to live freely. This would coincide with being overbearing.

The second dream begins wit ha thunderstorm, and darkness. Darkness can refer to some part of yourself that you dislike (Jung calls this the shadow self). The storm may be a building emotion (I say emotion because storms and water are typically symbolic of emotions and emotional turmoil.) Because the hut is closed and you are outside it, it can connect with the antagonist as showing that you aren't consciously aware of what is causing your transition. There is a second interpretation for this, as well. Buildings can often be symbols for the dreamer, either their physical body or simply their own emotional/spiritual/etc. existence. That the antagonist came out of the hut shows that the cause of this change is something within yourself. The man that kills you is seen as a "bad guy". Did you have the same image with your dad, as being a bad guy? The way you died in the second dream shows a separation between your old self and your new self, both in an actuality and as something you are growing consciously aware of.

The third dream begins to grow vague in its imagery, save for this oppression over you. The other children could be parts of you that are being taken over, parts that have been shown to be childish or parts that were budding to fruition but ended up giving way to this oppression. But your dreaming/subconscious self has gained enough awareness of the oppressive side of yourself (that shadow self defined by Jung again) that you were able to avoid the transition.

Presuming that these dreams are connected, there are two things I have to ask. First, how do you feel about your father? Second, what did the attacker in the second dream look like? Typically other characters in dreams find a connection between people we know (either single individuals or a combined image between two or more people) and things we see in yourself. Basically, your father in your dream would represent the things you see in your dad as well as in yourself. Characters that aren't people you know are related to traits you see in yourself and may take on the looks of several people that act and think similarly in your life. This has a LOT to do with something you dislike about yourself taking over your personality and quite possibly your life. I'd guess this negative aspect of you is something you see causing the isolation and depression.

[dissy.defect]

Originally Posted by mike1127

Can I get some background on your life? Answer only if you are comfortable. How old are you? Do you still live with your family? What was your childhood like? What current emotional issues are you dealing with?

It is possible there is something in your psyche, your unconscious, that doesn't respect life. This might be a defensive response to childhood trauma.

Mike

I am 15, I live with my family, and I had a childhood full of bullying and deep thinking. I'm dealing with depression (probably severe) and suicidal thoughts. The most traumatic thing that happened in my childhood was bullying, and it wasn't even that bad. I really am confused as to what is going on in my head, sorry I couldn't provide a better response.

[dissy.defect]

Originally Posted by medkev13

Warning :: LONG Response

First off, death is never a bad thing in dreams. The symbolic meaning of death is transition. In the first dream, there is a large image of ice and isolation. (See the connection already? Ice/Ice-o-lation) This reflects a feeling of loneliness and being shunned. The whole family is stuck on this island, which tells me that perhaps you connect your identity to your family unit. But there is a problem - your father is the antagonist, crushing you with some sort of driving equipment. I would dare to ask how your father is affecting your mood? If I had to make a guess I would wager that either you see your dad as smothering/overbearing, or that you see your father as an obstacle toward your family and thus yourself being able to live freely. This would coincide with being overbearing.

The second dream begins wit ha thunderstorm, and darkness. Darkness can refer to some part of yourself that you dislike (Jung calls this the shadow self). The storm may be a building emotion (I say emotion because storms and water are typically symbolic of emotions and emotional turmoil.) Because the hut is closed and you are outside it, it can connect with the antagonist as showing that you aren't consciously aware of what is causing your transition. There is a second interpretation for this, as well. Buildings can often be symbols for the dreamer, either their physical body or simply their own emotional/spiritual/etc. existence. That the antagonist came out of the hut shows that the cause of this change is something within yourself. The man that kills you is seen as a "bad guy". Did you have the same image with your dad, as being a bad guy? The way you died in the second dream shows a separation between your old self and your new self, both in an actuality and as something you are growing consciously aware of.

The third dream begins to grow vague in its imagery, save for this oppression over you. The other children could be parts of you that are being taken over, parts that have been shown to be childish or parts that were budding to fruition but ended up giving way to this oppression. But your dreaming/subconscious self has gained enough awareness of the oppressive side of yourself (that shadow self defined by Jung again) that you were able to avoid the transition.

Presuming that these dreams are connected, there are two things I have to ask. First, how do you feel about your father? Second, what did the attacker in the second dream look like? Typically other characters in dreams find a connection between people we know (either single individuals or a combined image between two or more people) and things we see in yourself. Basically, your father in your dream would represent the things you see in your dad as well as in yourself. Characters that aren't people you know are related to traits you see in yourself and may take on the looks of several people that act and think similarly in your life. This has a LOT to do with something you dislike about yourself taking over your personality and quite possibly your life. I'd guess this negative aspect of you is something you see causing the isolation and depression.

Goodness, thanks for putting the time into answering this.
I have had some problems my father, and just his presence in the room causes anxiety. I know he loves me, but I have a really hard time feeling comfortable around him after a long time being a verbal punching bag for all his frustrations.

The attacker in the dream looked like an adult in a black cloak of some sort. I remember him laughing as I died, it sounded male. It also moved like a male, so I'm assuming it is a he? Other than that, I do not remember.

It's frightening how easily the translations you described could be applied to my situation, thanks again for all the help.

[medkev13]

Well, if your father has been an antagonist in your waking life, it is possible this antagonist is your facing the male side of yourself. It's not that unthinkable to consider that you fear facing the masculine part of you as it might relate to your father. Remember, the people in your dreams always relate back to you.

Oh, and it's nothing to be scared of. After all - it's all in your head right?

[MusicMike]

Originally Posted by dissy.defect

I am 15, I live with my family, and I had a childhood full of bullying and deep thinking. I'm dealing with depression (probably severe) and suicidal thoughts. The most traumatic thing that happened in my childhood was bullying, and it wasn't even that bad. I really am confused as to what is going on in my head, sorry I couldn't provide a better response.

"Trauma" doesn't have to be a big single incident, but sometimes it can be the cumulative effect of friction in your family.

You mention you are dealing with suicidal thoughts in waking life, and in the dream two characters kill you. They could represent the side of you that wants to end your life. There seems to be some aggression there, in that side of you. Are you aware of conflicting impulses; one part of you that wants to end your life, and another part of you that wants to live? Are you aware of the specific thoughts and feelings that you are having when you want to end your life? How about when you want to live?

Are you able to tell your parents that you are suicidal? I hope they can provide you with professional help.

Mike

[Thunder Bow]

A Thunderstorm is Power. Your Father is hiding behind a huge machine that is made of his own anger. It protects him.

Do not turn agenst yourself. You got a handle on the fact his anger and bullying has nothing to do with you personally. He is just protecting himself and hiding his intense Fears of being rejected by others. He always bully to have control over you and others. Bullying is all about Control.