Iggy...

really good and fact based posting, jo!

Thanks for the concern, Jo but I'm now a "marked" man here and I feel anything I now say will be under scrutiny. I've long since admitted that my attitude often hasn't been up standards expected here, so I'm not saying I'm innocent by any means.

But I also think we should be allowed to be human and that doesn't always mean sharing positive thoughts.

Could we please put the focus back onto Self-Esteem, , were here to build ourselves up not tear ourselves down
Angie

jo.....you so described "attraction"......i've always said that i don't care what a man looks like...just as long as he has "laughing eyes"....your post was extremely on. and laughing eyes are something that WE create from within.

Aw, Gary...don't give up on me now!!!! I'm just getting into this!

At the risk of sounding judgemental, I'm gonna share some opinions. When I read your posts, the thought that comes to mind is "tough nut to crack." And I should recognize one, because I am a pretty tough nut myself. Some of us are so good at building walls of logic around ourselves, that almost nothing can get in. And the truth of it is, we tough nuts frustrate the heck out of people trying to help us. Because they give us words of comfort, and we respond by arguing them away. I've done it...people say, "but you are a good person" and my response it, "no, I'm not because of X, Y and Z." And when you rebuff people enough times, they can feel that you aren't listening, or at it's worst, that you don't respect their opinions.

But like I said, I know all about walls of logic...the bad thing about them is that they can be really strong, but on the other hand, they are contructed of many bricks, so if you work patiently, you can look for the weak bricks and start pulling the wall down little by little. It's not always easy to spot the weak bricks...sometimes you need to back up, walk around to another part of the wall and chisel away at that for awhile. And it can take a lot of inspection to find the weak spots.

If you really would like to pull down that wall of logic, and open yourself up the possibility that there might be something better out there for you, I'm happy to stick with it. I won't take things personally if we butt heads on things, because I know that's part of the process. I just need to you stick with me, and try to ignore things that feel like attacks from other people.

So are you with me? Please say yes, I love a challenge!

Gary, not once have you addressed whether you will consider therapy. I know you're going to say this is me showing my "true colors", but I consider it tough love and taking care of myself. I'm putting a block on you so I can't see your posts until I've gotten word that you've started therapy. Your posts pain me too much with their illogic and self-sabotage. You have a lot to offer women and friends, but as long as you are committed to staying stuck in this self-absorbed rut, you'll never find it. You need help and until you agree to get it, I have to back out of this altogether. I'd love to be friends with you, but I have enough struggle in my life.

I'm sorry, but please feel free to PM me if you ever start therapy.

It was meant to be funny and NOT written about anyone in particular. Why do you bring this kind of negativity here? Your perception of being the Kickball of the universe is dead wrong, Gary.