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Old Dec 18, 2017, 07:17 PM
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My advice is to speak to a lawyer to know what your rights are and to protect yourself financially. I would be very surprised if your husband can actually prevent you from getting a divorce.

What sort (if any) of mental health treatment is your husband getting?
I completely agree.
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Old Dec 18, 2017, 07:18 PM
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Sadly this is a pattern of an abuser...abuse and then apologies. Please call the domestic violence hotline; I stayed for 31 years with an abuser, and then found the book that saved my life; The Verbally Abusive Relationship by Patricia Evans.....He will not stop (unless he gets into therapy), and most abusers don't think they have a problem. Women are murdered every day by a partner/husband. You will have to (as hard as it is) stand up for yourself and make plans to leave. Yes you will be destined for a lifetime of violence, unless you leave. xoxo...You cannot help him...
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Old Dec 18, 2017, 07:19 PM
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I'm lying here feeling utterly and completely useless and I'm so confused on what to do.
I married my husband a few months ago. Everything was fine, other than the normal couple arguments over stupid things.
Honestly, it's been such a good relationship up until this. Sometimes my partner gets moody, but I am a hard person to live with as I can be quite demanding.
That's a quick overview of how our relationship has been.
Very normal!
Anyways, a week before we got married my husband to be got mad and pushed me when he was drunk. After he apologized profusely and said he was just drunk and wouldn't do it. I was able to look past it because of the dreams we had built together and the future he had promised me. I said if he ever, EVER did it again or layed a finger on me, I would be gone!
A few weeks after we got married (recently) he got drunk and got mad at me out of the blue and I said I was leaving to defuse the situation and
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I was so shocked that I had a panic attack. I ran out and said I was calling the police. I didn't. I called my friend instead. A few hours later I went back to him and he was asleep so I slept in the spare room with the door locked and decided to talk in the morning. I was so hell bent on leaving.
In the morning I woke up early and packed all of my things and was at the door. He then woke up, walked up to me and said 'give me one last hug before you leave' to which I replied no as I didn't think he deserved that right. He then proceeded to cry. He didn't beg me to stay. But he said he didn't know what he was going to do with his life now that I was leaving as all his dreams and hopes, had me as part of them.
Then he got a call to say his friend had died, I checked social media and yes it was true his friend had died. So I stayed because he was in shock and in deep fried for many days. I told myself I would leave when he was past the deep grief stage, but I didn't end up leaving.
I'm so so confused. I said to him on the morning I tried to leave that he needs to get help. He hasn't mentioned anything and of I try to talk about it he says oh here we go again..
Am I destined for a lifetime of domestic violence????
I seen domestic violence for woman and male because I had domestic violence in my family.
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Old Dec 27, 2017, 07:16 AM
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Even in horrific situations, it's easy to think "It's not that bad." Why? Because no matter what, there is always something worse. My psychologist told me everybody has blind spots. Everybody. And when we're in love, we see that person in the best light, and we don't want to see it any other way. It's our natural instinct to minimize and defend and make excuses.

I did the same thing. I was in the mindset that if he's not as bad as somebody else, that means he's good. It's a very common way of thinking for the partner of an abuser. (I'm pulling names out of the air here.) "Fred accuses me of flirting with every man we see. He calls me degrading names, tells me how to dress, and checks the mileage on my car to make sure I didn't go anywhere without telling him. But at least he doesn't hit me. George used to hit me every day. Isn't Fred wonderful?" Um, no, he isn't.
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Old Dec 27, 2017, 09:21 AM
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If he has hit you once, he'll do it again (which he did) and you don't deserve this.

There's no excuse for laying your hand on anybody and he certainly can't use the excuse of being drunk caused it.

I think you need to leave him and seek help for your own sanity.
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Old Dec 30, 2017, 05:13 AM
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I watch domestic violence documentaries that end with the victim being murdered by her abuser. The situation is always the same, that is, the victim forgives the first incident of abuse and goes back to the abuser. This spirals into more abuse and finally the victim gets killed. My father was an abuser too. He stopped hitting us -my brother and me when my brother started fighting back and scaring him. Until then, my father cracked my brother's skull also punctured my eardrums and hit my brother and me with anything he could get his hands on- broomsticks, wire fly swatters, drinking glasses, etc. He was a sick man. He never hit my mother though so she tolerated his abuse on us. She was an enabler of his abuse. My brother got stitches for his cracked skull. The worst outcome was that my brother and I have severe mental disorders now. I believe it was from all of the abuse from my father and mother. Hence, even though you may not get killed in the end, the harm that will be done to you after years of abuse will take a toll on your health.
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Old Dec 30, 2017, 11:40 AM
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I watch domestic violence documentaries that end with the victim being murdered by her abuser. The situation is always the same, that is, the victim forgives the first incident of abuse and goes back to the abuser. This spirals into more abuse and finally the victim gets killed. My father was an abuser too. He stopped hitting us -my brother and me when my brother started fighting back and scaring him. Until then, my father cracked my brother's skull also punctured my eardrums and hit my brother and me with anything he could get his hands on- broomsticks, wire fly swatters, drinking glasses, etc. He was a sick man. He never hit my mother though so she tolerated his abuse on us. She was an enabler of his abuse. My brother got stitches for his cracked skull. The worst outcome was that my brother and I have severe mental disorders now. I believe it was from all of the abuse from my father and mother. Hence, even though you may not get killed in the end, the harm that will be done to you after years of abuse will take a toll on your health.
The good news though is - you can overcome the mental disorders if you want.
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Another update.
Ok so Christmas and New year were ok! I was surrounded by family and I worked a lot to keep my mind busy!
It's not been easy but one step at a time. If anyone has any advice on how to keep busy. I have two weeks off work right now as my work close the first two weeks in January, so I feel like I'm sitting around stewing over everything. Not a good time to have time off!
He is still contacting me anyway he can and when we do speak it's like nothing has happened. Which freaks me out. For example, I will say "stop contacting me it's over" and he's like "so I was thinking we could do this next year or go here" or "when you come back we can do this or that" and it's the biggest head screw up behaviour. Because it's complete denial from him, but also playing a game at the same time. He sent me a video on new year of him and his family wishing me a happy new year and they were all cheering my name and waving at me on this video and it was like something out of a horror film. I was like what is this all about? Such denial and weird weird weird behaviour from all of them! Thoughts on this please?
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Old Jan 05, 2018, 05:57 AM
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He's showing you great disrespect already, ignoring your boundaries hoping to wear you down. If he pretends he can't read your signals, he believes he can eventually convince you you're not sending any. And now he's enlisted his family to help suck you back in. This is called love bombing. Please don't fall for it. Abusers are never nice to you until they think they're losing you. Once he's got you where he wants you, it will be right back to the same old behavior.

Sometimes it takes years. When I told my abusive family I wasn't ever coming back again, they thought I was just spouting off in anger. It's been exactly ten years. I think they're starting to believe me.
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Old Jan 06, 2018, 12:19 AM
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Another update.
Ok so Christmas and New year were ok! I was surrounded by family and I worked a lot to keep my mind busy!
It's not been easy but one step at a time. If anyone has any advice on how to keep busy. I have two weeks off work right now as my work close the first two weeks in January, so I feel like I'm sitting around stewing over everything. Not a good time to have time off!
He is still contacting me anyway he can and when we do speak it's like nothing has happened. Which freaks me out. For example, I will say "stop contacting me it's over" and he's like "so I was thinking we could do this next year or go here" or "when you come back we can do this or that" and it's the biggest head screw up behaviour. Because it's complete denial from him, but also playing a game at the same time. He sent me a video on new year of him and his family wishing me a happy new year and they were all cheering my name and waving at me on this video and it was like something out of a horror film. I was like what is this all about? Such denial and weird weird weird behaviour from all of them! Thoughts on this please?
Honestly - unless you have children together, it is best to cut all contact. Otherwise he will keep trying to manipulate you. One of the purposes of getting away is to get your mind and emotions healed from all the manipulating behaviors - you cannot do that if you are still being bombarded with them. Its hard to do, yes - but to make a new start, you must first end the old.

As far as things to do to keep busy - given the weather as it is now here (I don't know how it is there), I haven't much really to offer - tv, books, internet, hobbies, clean house...
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Anyways, a week before we got married my husband to be got mad and pushed me when he was drunk.
This reminds me of Leslie Morgan Steiner's story (Crazy Love).
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He hasn't mentioned anything and of I try to talk about it he says oh here we go again..
Am I destined for a lifetime of domestic violence????
This right here is what is the most telling to me. If he's saying "here we go again" after PUNCHING YOU, he is belittling your healthy response to an incredibly unhealthy behaviour. He is not accepting responsibility. He is not fixing anything.

This, above everything else you've written, is the biggest indicator to me that he has no intentions of stopping. It's going to escalate.

I would get out now. Find somewhere he can't find you. Ignore his crying. The man PUNCHED you.

Please stay safe.

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Old Jan 08, 2018, 11:05 AM
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This reminds me of Leslie Morgan Steiner's story (Crazy Love).
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This right here is what is the most telling to me. If he's saying "here we go again" after PUNCHING YOU, he is belittling your healthy response to an incredibly unhealthy behaviour. He is not accepting responsibility. He is not fixing anything.

This, above everything else you've written, is the biggest indicator to me that he has no intentions of stopping. It's going to escalate.

I would get out now. Find somewhere he can't find you. Ignore his crying. The man PUNCHED you.

Please stay safe.
You know, I watched her ted talks seminar a few months back and I thought to myself "that isn't me". But I've just watched it again and im like "yea, that's me". I was so detached from my own life, I didn't even realise!
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You know, I watched her ted talks seminar a few months back and I thought to myself "that isn't me". But I've just watched it again and im like "yea, that's me". I was so detached from my own life, I didn't even realise!
So was she. In her book she writes that in the thick of the abuse, if you had asked her if she was a battered woman, she would have said no.
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So was she. In her book she writes that in the thick of the abuse, if you had asked her if she was a battered woman, she would have said no.
I would have too. I was downright insulted if anyone told me my (now ex-) husband was abusing me, and I needed to get out before it got worse.

No, I had to wait until it got worse.
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Old Jan 09, 2018, 07:06 PM
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I do, as you've guessed, speak from experience. My ex-husband also cried afterward, every time he abused me. If I didn't take him back and stop talking about it, then, I was the one portrayed as unfeeling and selfish. Family, friends, and even the police would point out how obviously sorry he is, because look, he's crying. Manipulation, pure and simple.

Another thing he tried was to "admit" he had a problem and needed help. Then he'd call and make an intake appointment at the mental health clinic, to show me that he was getting the help he needed. Then I would come home, and he wouldn't see any reason to keep that appointment. Mission accomplished; I'm home. He's made his repairs and has his wife back. Now he can carry on as usual.

Something else to look for will be the counter-accusations. He'll claim to you and to the world that you're the one abusing him. Any mistake you've ever made in your life will be held against you, and since we all make mistakes, he *will* find something to hold against you. He'll make you out to be a monster. He'll even accuse you of his own shortcomings; for example, if he's irresponsible with money, then the first time you buy some frill that isn't a complete necessity, he'll yell at you for being so irresponsible with money.

Believe me, they'll stop at nothing to get us to let them continue their behavior.
I lost a coworker to domestic violence. She was murder she always went back to him because he threaten to kill her family.
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