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Old Dec 21, 2015, 06:23 PM
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I need some help. I've come up with the following.
Powerlessness
Missing out on talents friends and family

Unmanageablity
Control of thoughts
Decrease in personal care
Medication problems... Ie not taking them as planned
Suicidal tendencies
Unhappiness
Decrease in talents
Hiding true self
Physical sickness
Avoiding social situations
Into self more than others, self centered
Worthless feeling
Neglecting people and my job
Books bought but never read

Can you think of any more?

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Old Dec 23, 2015, 02:27 PM
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That seems pretty thorough.
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Old Dec 28, 2015, 10:12 PM
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There's a problem.... I can't seem to make these reasons stick....any ideas?

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Old Dec 29, 2015, 08:07 AM
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Let's take em one at a time. Did active alcoholism contribute to a decrease in personal care? Did you get an annual physical exam w blood panel during your time abusing? What about dentist? 6 month checkups? Flossing?

Were you in smoky bars w other abusers and sick with colds and poor bar food diet?

The selfishness and twisted priorities were huge with me. Did your drinking take away from your relationships? Were you the best parent, friend, lover, employee, etc when drinking? Did you ever skip an important event (birthdays, graduations, work functions, etc) because you chose drinking or needed to recover from drinking?

I don't expect replies on these questions. I'm just providing lines of questions I had to be honest with myself about to shatter the internal denial that is always a threat to recovery and long term sobriety.

What else?

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Old Jan 02, 2016, 12:14 AM
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I need some help. I've come up with the following.
Powerlessness
Missing out on talents friends and family

Unmanageablity
Control of thoughts
Decrease in personal care
Medication problems... Ie not taking them as planned
Suicidal tendencies
Unhappiness
Decrease in talents
Hiding true self
Physical sickness
Avoiding social situations
Into self more than others, self centered
Worthless feeling
Neglecting people and my job
Books bought but never read

Can you think of any more?

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They are ALL fear based. So, another one is:
Unable to cope with fears.

A new list could be made on what coping skills we lack in. Such as
Rejection.
Anger management.
Co-dependency.
Recognition.
Success and Failure.
Time management.
Saying 'no'
Saying 'sorry'.
Saying 'thank you'.
...

These too have underlying fears.
Actually, all sorts of tension, as the above lists have, are symptoms of fear.
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Old Jan 03, 2016, 02:27 AM
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Another one.. Not being able to go to the supermarket without loading up on alcohol. Totally powerless.
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Old Jan 06, 2016, 09:43 PM
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I need some help. I've come up with the following.
Powerlessness
Missing out on talents friends and family

Unmanageablity
Control of thoughts
Decrease in personal care
Medication problems... Ie not taking them as planned
Suicidal tendencies
Unhappiness
Decrease in talents
Hiding true self
Physical sickness
Avoiding social situations
Into self more than others, self centered
Worthless feeling
Neglecting people and my job
Books bought but never read

Can you think of any more?

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What's your point ? Are these issues that you personally have a problem with ?
In the context of the 12 steps , #1 is #1 for a reason and it's self explanatory. You admit your powerless over "whatever" and that your life has become unmanageable because of it. The rest of the steps try and help you fix that unmanageability. There are also a lot of different reasons your life can become unmanageable. That's why AA's 12 steps work for many non-alcoholics too ( or for whatever your addiction was ).
Try working the steps and your list may shrink a lot. If I had serious mental health issues , ( besides or with alcoholism ) then the Big Book says you may need , and it's ok , to seek professional help.
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Old Jan 07, 2016, 11:27 PM
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What's your point ? Are these issues that you personally have a problem with ?
In the context of the 12 steps , #1 is #1 for a reason and it's self explanatory. You admit your powerless over "whatever" and that your life has become unmanageable because of it. The rest of the steps try and help you fix that unmanageability. There are also a lot of different reasons your life can become unmanageable. That's why AA's 12 steps work for many non-alcoholics too ( or for whatever your addiction was ).
Try working the steps and your list may shrink a lot. If I had serious mental health issues , ( besides or with alcoholism ) then the Big Book says you may need , and it's ok , to seek professional help.
This is a personal issue. I wanted to come up with other ideas to see what fit for me and to help others.

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Old Jan 12, 2016, 02:20 PM
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This is a personal issue. I wanted to come up with other ideas to see what fit for me and to help others.

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It seems like every time you do a step, you recall more examples of the ways in which your life has been unmanageable.
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