Home Menu

Menu



advertisement
Reply
Thread Tools Display Modes
Maven
Pirate Goddess
 
Maven's Avatar
 
Member Since Oct 2005
Location: South Jersey, USA
Posts: 5,246
18
513 hugs
given
PC PoohBah!
Default Aug 11, 2007 at 03:19 AM
  #21
Really? I'll have to look into that. Thanks!

__________________
Maven

If I had a dollar for every time I got distracted, I wish I had some ice cream.

Equal Rights Are Not Special Rights

Maven is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote

advertisement
sunrise
Legendary
 
sunrise's Avatar
 
Member Since Jan 2007
Location: U.S.
Posts: 10,383
17
106 hugs
given
PC PoohBah!
Default Aug 12, 2007 at 04:31 PM
  #22
I've never heard of these cups, so this thread has been very informative! I am a long time diaphragm user, for over 20 years. These cups sound just like a diaphragm. I have often liked the way the diaphragm works during my period, to keep all the blood contained. Now they have a product that does just that. I guess a question would be, you can't use the diaphragm with one of these things simultaneously, right? With the diaphragm, you just hook one finger over the rim to pull it out, so I don't get the need for a stem on these products. It did puzzle me that the link someone gave for the Diva, it says for women "post-childbirth and/or over 30. "Why would that be? I have used the diaphragm since before I was age 20 with no problem. Why would this be different?

__________________
"Therapists are experts at developing therapeutic relationships."
sunrise is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Gracey
Veteran Member
 
Gracey's Avatar
 
Member Since Aug 2005
Location: Texas
Posts: 701
19
PC PoohBah!
Default Aug 12, 2007 at 08:05 PM
  #23
I think the point with the Diva has to do with size, since it only comes in one size. It might be too large for a woman who's never birthed a child. Diaphrams are custom sized. . .unlike menstrual cups.

I use the Instead during my cycle if we want to have s*x. It says on the box, that it is NOT a contraceptive. . .but, if I'm on my period, the odds of getting pregnant are LOWER than normal, AND I have a barrier in place (the Instead). I don't sweat it too much.

I liked the Instead a lot b/c of it's shape and simplicity. Getting used to the Luna took a little time, with the stem and all. and the stem is there b/c the Luna, the Moon, the Diva are ALL shaped like trumpet mouthpieces. There is not "hooking your finger" b/c there isn't a place to do that. You grab the stem, pull gently. . .like a string on a tampon.

__________________
You are not too much for them. They are not enough for you.
~E. Bennings
Gracey is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
withit
Veteran Member
 
Member Since Nov 2006
Posts: 492
17
Default Aug 12, 2007 at 08:27 PM
  #24
Quite an informative topic! These cups seem a bit expensive for me. Anyone know where I can get them for real cheap?
Also, why doesn't it need to be fitted just as the diaphragm? What if it's too big or too small around my cervix?
Teacher, are you there? Luna's, Diva's, Instead's. . .alternatives. . .
withit is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
sunrise
Legendary
 
sunrise's Avatar
 
Member Since Jan 2007
Location: U.S.
Posts: 10,383
17
106 hugs
given
PC PoohBah!
Default Aug 13, 2007 at 12:51 AM
  #25
</font><blockquote><div id="quote"><font class="small">Quote:</font>
Gracey said:
I think the point with the Diva has to do with size, since it only comes in one size. It might be too large for a woman who's never birthed a child. Diaphrams are custom sized. . .unlike menstrual cups.

</div></font></blockquote><font class="post">
Well, that's odd, because my cervix didn't change size after I had kids. I have always used the same size diaphragm, from before kids, to after the first baby, to after the second. Luna's, Diva's, Instead's. . .alternatives. . . Maybe this is unusual?

__________________
"Therapists are experts at developing therapeutic relationships."
sunrise is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Maven
Pirate Goddess
 
Maven's Avatar
 
Member Since Oct 2005
Location: South Jersey, USA
Posts: 5,246
18
513 hugs
given
PC PoohBah!
Default Aug 13, 2007 at 03:23 AM
  #26
That's a good question, withit...why aren't these cups customized? I have never had a baby, and I don't want something that would be too large, or at least uncomfortable.

Why don't men get periods? Darn it...we'd have such great solutions to these menstrual problems then! LOL! Luna's, Diva's, Instead's. . .alternatives. . .

__________________
Maven

If I had a dollar for every time I got distracted, I wish I had some ice cream.

Equal Rights Are Not Special Rights

Maven is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Gracey
Veteran Member
 
Gracey's Avatar
 
Member Since Aug 2005
Location: Texas
Posts: 701
19
PC PoohBah!
Default Aug 13, 2007 at 09:17 AM
  #27
LOL They aren't uncomfortable at all. The cup is made of medical grade silicone, so it is soft, and pliable. MOST women have no problem with sizing. . .belive it or not no matter how big or small you are weight wise and heighth wise, most women have a very close in size vagina and cervix. Aren't you guys familiar with your own goodies? LOL Women who weigh 400lbs and women who barely weigh 100 can often wear the same size cup. Diaphrams are custom fitted b/c we are trying to prevent LEAKS INTO the cervix. . .they have to be tight. Cups do not. . .b/c they expand to the walls of the vagina, and even if there is leakage (which I've NEVER experienced with mine) it is minimal. But diaphrams, even a little leakeage can mean pregnancy.

They don't hurt. . .in fact you can't even feel the dang things. I had the problem with tampons that I could feel them for the first half hour or so. . .the Luna doesn't give me that problem at all, largely due to its construction.

Instead. . .which is a disposable cup is available on the market now at Walgreens, Walmart, Kroger, pretty much anywhere that sells tampons and pads. They run about $6 a box for 18. Not bad if you want to try. Because you can wear instead for 12 hours at a pop, they come out to be more economical than tampons.

If men had periods we as women would get paid leave from work every month for ours. Men are babies. . .cramps would be call for National Disaster Assistance.

__________________
You are not too much for them. They are not enough for you.
~E. Bennings
Gracey is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Maven
Pirate Goddess
 
Maven's Avatar
 
Member Since Oct 2005
Location: South Jersey, USA
Posts: 5,246
18
513 hugs
given
PC PoohBah!
Default Aug 14, 2007 at 05:33 AM
  #28
I know most women are about the same size, but I've had different gynos tell me different things: Either I'm "tiny" or I'm "normal." Luna's, Diva's, Instead's. . .alternatives. . .

I don't feel tampons if I get them in far enough, but once in a while, I don't, and they can be quite painful in that instance.

Which brings me to another question. This one is kind of gross and weird, but I need to know, LOL! With a tampon, I can pee without changing it, if it doesn't need to be changed, but pooping pushes it a little, where it hurts me, so I have to remove it. (For the record, I have pain with intercourse, which no gyno has been able to solve, giving me all kinds of diagnoses, including the size ones previously mentioned, and there's a area inside that is rather sensitive to anything inside.) Do you think that would be a problem with the Instead cup?

You say you get 18 in a box? With the Diva and Luna Cups, I think you only get one. So, what, are Instead Cups disposable or something? Do you change them or wash them?

These are really looking promising for me, just on the wearing for 12 hours alone. I might get them for my next period.

__________________
Maven

If I had a dollar for every time I got distracted, I wish I had some ice cream.

Equal Rights Are Not Special Rights

Maven is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Raynaadi
Wise Elder
 
Raynaadi's Avatar
 
Member Since Oct 2004
Location: AZ
Posts: 8,663
19
PC PoohBah!
Default Aug 14, 2007 at 12:23 PM
  #29
Ok this is gonna be gross lol but I take them out too when I have a movement because of the string....ew. I would guess these alternatives would have better results in that area.

__________________
Raynaadi is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
withit
Veteran Member
 
Member Since Nov 2006
Posts: 492
17
Default Aug 14, 2007 at 12:50 PM
  #30
Good point; does it get pushed out when using the toilet?
withit is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
__zh
Grand Member
 
__zh's Avatar
 
Member Since Aug 2005
Location: waaaaay out west
Posts: 841
19
PC PoohBah!
Default Aug 29, 2007 at 02:57 PM
  #31
life before the Diva Cup was expensive, leaky and crampy. why suffer when relief exists already? didn't know about Luna cup or Lunette versions. was aware of Keeper as the original of these methods. nice to have latex rubber, silicone and other materials as choices.

The collection method works wonderfully for many and is such a great alternative to absorption methods.

Although there are many good absorptions methods still avail. that are less landfill impacting than current disposable absorption products. Glad Rags has a plethora of diff. sized pads, undies and the like....many from organic cotton. There will be controversy over almost anything that deviates from the "norm" so we'll make passing mention of sea sponges (sterilized) as yet another option in the absorption arena.

money is tight right now so the convenience of the disposable INSTEAD® Softcup® will have to wait until finances allow such luxury conveniences. can't wait to try though for the times when convenience can be a choice over necessity.

le différence dans vie !

__________________
__zh
__zh is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Gracey
Veteran Member
 
Gracey's Avatar
 
Member Since Aug 2005
Location: Texas
Posts: 701
19
PC PoohBah!
Default Aug 29, 2007 at 11:45 PM
  #32
LOL Ok, I'd lost the thread.

B/c of how Instead fits inside your body, as well as the Luna (and I'd imagine the Diva and Moon and Keeper) they don't pop out, slide out, push out, or otherwise expel themselves from your body. The Instead sits against your pubic bone, which although your vag muscles *flex* during bowel expulsion, they bone never moves. The Luna (and other cups) work of a gentle suction principle, and I've NEVER had one move. I guess maybe if you're exceptionally full of impacted poop you MIGHT be able to pop it loose.

__________________
You are not too much for them. They are not enough for you.
~E. Bennings
Gracey is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Gracey
Veteran Member
 
Gracey's Avatar
 
Member Since Aug 2005
Location: Texas
Posts: 701
19
PC PoohBah!
Default Aug 29, 2007 at 11:46 PM
  #33
You ladies make me laugh!

__________________
You are not too much for them. They are not enough for you.
~E. Bennings
Gracey is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Maven
Pirate Goddess
 
Maven's Avatar
 
Member Since Oct 2005
Location: South Jersey, USA
Posts: 5,246
18
513 hugs
given
PC PoohBah!
Default Aug 30, 2007 at 02:28 AM
  #34
I located a couple of stores that carry Instead, but after doing some research online, they're not for me. Luna's, Diva's, Instead's. . .alternatives. . . I need something with a handle or whatever to pull it out. I will get panicky if I have a hard time getting it out. Additionally, my interest is to reduce mess while sleeping (for as many as 12 hours), but from what I've read, removing the Instead cup is messy, as you have to grab the edge of the cup and pull it out. *Sigh!*

I'm on my period now. On the bright side, Tampax Pearl Lites finally are available in individual boxes.

__________________
Maven

If I had a dollar for every time I got distracted, I wish I had some ice cream.

Equal Rights Are Not Special Rights

Maven is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Gracey
Veteran Member
 
Gracey's Avatar
 
Member Since Aug 2005
Location: Texas
Posts: 701
19
PC PoohBah!
Default Aug 30, 2007 at 08:46 AM
  #35
What on earth makes you think Instead is messy? I just got done looking at the site, and I didn't see anything about it being messy. And you CAN wear Instead for 12 hours; says so on the site and on the side of the box.

I guess I look at it this way, you're going to have to pull something out, you know? Pull it out, wash your hands. Instead and my Luna isn't any messier than a tampon string.

__________________
You are not too much for them. They are not enough for you.
~E. Bennings
Gracey is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Maven
Pirate Goddess
 
Maven's Avatar
 
Member Since Oct 2005
Location: South Jersey, USA
Posts: 5,246
18
513 hugs
given
PC PoohBah!
Default Aug 31, 2007 at 04:18 AM
  #36
I know you can wear it for 12 hours...I didn't say you couldn't. I didn't say I got the info from the site; I got it from a review. Specifically, this one at The Museum of Menstruation and Women's Health. Some of us research more than an advertiser's site, because advertisers want to sell us products, whereas, an honest review tells the good and the bad, and doesn't have the agenda of wanting us to buy a product.

My tampon strings don't usually get covered in blood. And I don't have to reach inside me to get the tampon out. I would have a panic attack if I had difficulty in getting the item out, even if I did get it out eventually. I need it to be easy.

I wash my hands every time after I use the bathroom, but I'm still grossed out and uncomfortable with blood on my hands. Call it a hang-up. I don't care.

Here's some more "messy" reviews, from a quick Google:

http://www.drugstore.com/qxp40597_33...ection_cup.htm
http://www.epinions.com/hmgd-Instead...splay_~reviews

__________________
Maven

If I had a dollar for every time I got distracted, I wish I had some ice cream.

Equal Rights Are Not Special Rights

Maven is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
sujunew
Grand Member
 
sujunew's Avatar
 
Member Since Feb 2006
Posts: 941
18
2 hugs
given
PC PoohBah!
Default Sep 01, 2007 at 07:38 AM
  #37
ok, I have a question that may not be able to be answered... since having my 3rd child 3 yrs ago (by c-section) I have been unable to wear tamons at all because they cause so much pain (prob unrelated to the birth but happened at the same time). I am wondering if using a cup might be the same>>> painful?? Otherwise they look like a fantastic alternative to me Luna's, Diva's, Instead's. . .alternatives. . .

__________________
I know that behind every grey cloud there is a silver lining; I just need to be patient enough to find it!!!

sujunew is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Maven
Pirate Goddess
 
Maven's Avatar
 
Member Since Oct 2005
Location: South Jersey, USA
Posts: 5,246
18
513 hugs
given
PC PoohBah!
Default Sep 02, 2007 at 02:25 PM
  #38
From what I've read, if you have a tilted uterus, it might be a problem (not necessarily painful, but leaky), but otherwise, I can't tell you.

__________________
Maven

If I had a dollar for every time I got distracted, I wish I had some ice cream.

Equal Rights Are Not Special Rights

Maven is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
InACorner
Poohbah
 
Member Since Jan 2007
Posts: 1,207
17
Default Sep 03, 2007 at 05:36 AM
  #39
when i saw that my first thought was its going to be a balloon looking thing popping out of my vagina....but you say it doesnt look like that?? where does it go then when it fills up...wouldnt gravity have something to do with it....and lets just say it breaks...now im sure it hasnt but for my sake ...wouldnt that be dangerous having something full of your blood pop while still inside your body?? I mean that would be an easier way to get toxic shock syndrome correct? Honestly..im a pad girl myself...i get such heavy periods i have to change my pad (which were the heavy duty pads to be sure) every half hour for the first two to three days...otherwise i will be quite noticable to everyone else....i dont know....im afraid to try it.....

__________________
"You look at me, and you dont like what you see. But this is the price of living with you, Mother. "
- White Oleander
InACorner is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Raynaadi
Wise Elder
 
Raynaadi's Avatar
 
Member Since Oct 2004
Location: AZ
Posts: 8,663
19
PC PoohBah!
Default Sep 03, 2007 at 12:51 PM
  #40
I'm afraid too. Luna's, Diva's, Instead's. . .alternatives. . . I think its the concept of change. I know what I'm used to lol. I remember when I finally switched from pads to tampons, the change was a big thing to get used to. I never even knew there were thins other than pads and tampons, so the whole idea just kinda freaks me out tee hee.

__________________
Raynaadi is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Reply
attentionThis is an old thread. You probably should not post your reply to it, as the original poster is unlikely to see it.



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Alternatives purplebutterfly Self Injury 5 May 13, 2008 10:47 PM
Alternatives to SSRIs? Frostbitten_Kiss Psychiatric Medications 1 Jan 24, 2007 09:30 AM
Natural Alternatives Indra Anxiety, Panic and Phobias 9 May 17, 2005 10:53 PM
Re: Alternatives............... dayzee9 Self Injury 2 Apr 11, 2005 01:48 PM
Alternatives to holidays Monty_girl Other Mental Health Discussion 9 Mar 28, 2005 05:41 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:19 PM.
Powered by vBulletin® — Copyright © 2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.



 

My Support Forums

My Support Forums is the online community that was originally begun as the Psych Central Forums in 2001. It now runs as an independent self-help support group community for mental health, personality, and psychological issues and is overseen by a group of dedicated, caring volunteers from around the world.

 

Helplines and Lifelines

The material on this site is for informational purposes only, and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis or treatment provided by a qualified health care provider.

Always consult your doctor or mental health professional before trying anything you read here.