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It seems to me that most men have almost no empathy for other people usually. To me it seems as if they can’t stand to listen to anything that’s emotional.
The only emotions thet seem to have are physical ones & anger. Why? My husband is almost like a damn robot he’s so cold. He shows love to our cat but not me usually. I don’t get men at all. It sucks being seen as to to ‘sensitive’ & it hurts being dismissed & ignored all the time. Does anyone else have these issues with the men in their life? I rarely get asked about my day or receive any compliments either. It’s always nagging, criticism, complaining, threats, demands, being asked to cook or clean, etc, ugh! I hate most men now. |
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No. Not the case at all.
That’s the men you meet. I’ve met a few like that myself but I’ve met cold and unloving women too. I don’t think it’s gender specific. People are people. I think the trick is to turn away from people like this. Don’t stick around. The minute you noticed they are cold and unemotional and/or angry, don’t date them, don’t be friends and certainly don’t marry them |
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Thanks. You’re right about what you said.
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Not at all. And you can just read the Relationships and Communication forum to see how many sensitive and vulnerable men are out there. It is not gender-specific, despite the stereotype.
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It could also be generational, in the sense that if they were raised the way their dads were, it's just a vicious cycle. I'm hoping it's different now, as I believe today's younger men are more emotionally available than previous generations. Once I read that all this repressing of emotions is why men have heart attacks and high blood pressure more than women. __________________ Call me "owl" for short! Hmmm....looks like some good tips in here. "Okay, enough photos. I'm a very BUSY Business Kitty, so make an appointment next time." |
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OK. There are maybe one of thise for every 100 insensitive cavemen type or robot types out there it seens like, lol 😆
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I don’t experience men as cold or unemotional at all. Go hang out with men in nurturing professions or men who are devoted parents or men who volunteer their time to help others . Not cold at all. Where do you meet them. You might be looking in all wrong places.
Are you talking about like old generations like mid 1900s? I also don’t see anyone being called whimps if they show emotions. It is such outdated info. Or could be cultural like in some areas men are this way. But it’s not prevalent at all. |
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What you are alluding to is self-selection bias on the Relationship and Communication board. True, it is present, but you are still grossly overestimating the degree to which being cold and unemotional is present among men in general because you are extrapolating from your own experience.
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OP lives in San Francisco Bay Area. It is not culturally prevalent here to extoll men who are cold and unemotional, as I can attest from having lived here for almost 3 decades.
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Oh absolutely. I was just grasping at straws trying to figure out where OP finds these men. It sounded that because her husband is that way the assumption is made that every man is this way.
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I agree with what the others have said. Sure there are some men who seem cold and unemotional, but I’ve met plenty of women who are too. It’s not the gender here, it’s the personality trait. And if this type of personality is not what you want to be around, then walk away….no matter if it’s a man or a woman.
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Your husband sounds like he's not emotionally available to you in the way that you deserve/need him to be, if he treats you the way you describe: Quote:
I don't think you are too 'sensitive.' Gaslighters use that to undermine their victim's self-confidence. Usually, gaslighters view emotionally available people as a threat to their own emotional vulnerability; a threat because they have chosen to repress whatever trauma they experienced as children from their parents growing up. I found a blog about emotionally unavailable men for you. Have you asked him to go to couples counseling with you? That may be a possible next step to help you communicate with him how you feel, without him shutting you down by yelling at you,etc. Sorry to read that you're in this unvalidating kind of relationship with your husband. |
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I’m wondering too whether it’s your husband and father you’re basing this judgement on, rather than men generally. That’s understandable, it’s coloured your perception of men.
You can’t generalise a gender though, just as we mightn’t like women being generalised and judged harshly as a group. |
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Asking to do some cooking and cleaning isn’t unreasonable since you don’t work. If my husband didn’t work, you bet I’d be asking for housework to get done while I work, normally we split chores but I’d not want to come home after work day with nothing done if he was home all day and was going to concerts and restaurants and festivals and movies and socialized with friends. I’d expect some stuff to get done.
BUT your husband absolutely has no business threatening and mistreating you. He’s abusive. I don’t think the issue is him being cold. He’s rude and mean. And what he’s doing is abuse. I can ensure you that’s not how all men are at all. |
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I agree with Motts, that I too am sorry you have that kind of thing with your husband. Of all people to have ideally emotional closeness with it, it would be one's spouse or partner. Anyway men are told to "man up"......I'm hoping my generation is better than my parents' generation, hence raising a generation of more emotionally available men. And they in turn raise their sons, etc. __________________ Call me "owl" for short! Hmmm....looks like some good tips in here. "Okay, enough photos. I'm a very BUSY Business Kitty, so make an appointment next time." |
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__________________ Call me "owl" for short! Hmmm....looks like some good tips in here. "Okay, enough photos. I'm a very BUSY Business Kitty, so make an appointment next time." |
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Although I loved both of my parents, I've spent years on this forum ranting about their emotional and sometimes verbal abuse. So, I speak from my own experience.
It's why as the scapegoat and codependent, that I attract narcissist friends and narcissist romantic attachments; due to emotional neglect from both of my parents. It dawned on me, that their emotional neglect is why my siblings and I never emotionally connected either. It explains why my siblings triangulate me and why the three of us never emotionally attached to each other. Emotional abuse is like a multi-car pile-up for future generations because it never stops. It gets passed on, I believe, at the DNA level. @jesyka I encourage you to find ways to empower yourself so that you can verbally and physically create healthy boundaries around your relationship with your husband, while you figure out what you want. |
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