So to cut it fine ... working with a gang of women can be extremely *****y and I'm non confrontational and usually either get tongue tied or throw a angry tongue if threatened. ATM I work for myself and I seem to like it this way but I feel am just existing as am working all hours with travel and not doing anything I enjoy. I have applied for normal working hour jobs but quite frankly am scared incase am bullied like I was severely in my last place xxx
Any help or advice would be welcomed greatly xx

[Webgoji]

My wife has always said she would much rather work with men than women. I guess there's a dynamic there when a group of women work together that, as you said, some amount of bullying and "cat fighting" starts.

Maybe you could check around and find a more "male dominated" work place? We're a pain in the butt, but my understanding is that the infighting isn't as bad.

[yellowfrog268]

Agreed with Webgoji, the vibe is different when working with men than women.

Perhaps seek a job position where you have your own office or cubicle or little interaction with coworkers.

[healingme4me]

Working with all women, can be an adventure in and of itself.

You mention not being able to handle confrontation and angry tongues. Could be something, to work through, for yourself, as to not have to fear any work environment.

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[happiedasiy]

Dear Poster,

Women are or can be cult like in the workplace.
It is a good quality not to be baited into the drama.
Leaving behind that 1st job took courage, use that courage in your current quest for normal workplace.
Work is also hard to find so being able to work for self may not be exactly what you want but that is what work is, you provide a service/product and receive payment for services.

A job will make you feel like you are just existing not finding joy in what you do. Likewise not having activities that you enjoy outside of work can leave you unhappy and dissatisfied.

Take stock of what you do have, maybe it is time for a career change!
Don't allow fear from the past keep you from moving forward.

In life you will come across all types therefore it is up to you how to handle them.

You can be kind and assertive. Posture, keeping your head up, body upright back straight and language skills will keep bullies out!

Also recognize that working from home has its own advantages and disadvantages.
Working from home keeps you safe from the dynamics of socializing with distasteful people on the job. It also excludes traveling to and from work.
On the downside it makes your home also your workplace with no defining line, which can make you feel as though you are always on.
Home should be a refuge from work. Do you have a room dedicated for work?
Tip, never bring laptop/work phone for work into either your bedroom or kitchen.
Tip, take breaks and get out of the house daily. I know this may seem impossible in today's tech world & when working for self.
For your health and wellbeing it is a must.
Yes some days you can't do it because of time sensitivity of projects, I get it.

Maybe hire someone as an apprenticeship 3x a week to answer calls/faxes/do the minors of the job and you get to pick the person that you feel comfortable with.
It could be the beginning of branching out into different areas. New Beginnings!!
Sorry to be long winded. I do wish you enjoyment in life, it is precious, and beauty all around.
Happiedasiy

I've worked with all women and with all men. It sucks both ways

Women have long nails for a reason. They are quite effective at looking pretty one minute and deadly the next.

Men have another anatomy part that is great for defining territory. Mess with that and you're in for it! Stinks too.

Don't believe either sex gangs up on somebody better than the other. They both do quite effectively.

The only solution is diversity. But if you are stuck in one of these situations... In women dominated environments make friends with the female "lead"... The alpha. Those middle school rules still apply. In a male dominated environment make friends with everyone. Play the silly games. You know... Get to know which ever sport they are betting on. Play ping pong. Make an appearance at the bar. Do I do this with any real skill? Absolutely not.



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[nicoleflynn]

The Verbally Abusive Relationship by Patricia Evans saved my life; think it should be required reading for everyone on the planet.

Originally Posted by Webgoji

My wife has always said she would much rather work with men than women. I guess there's a dynamic there when a group of women work together that, as you said, some amount of bullying and "cat fighting" starts.

Maybe you could check around and find a more "male dominated" work place? We're a pain in the butt, but my understanding is that the infighting isn't as bad.

I would ... But am a dental nurse / assistant so it's a female dominated place xxx

Thank you all for replying !!! I will certainly look into a career change. I quite fancy laboratory work and have experience in that so maybe see how it goes ? Xx

[helplessinnc]

I am currently working in a female dominated group and it's painful. They constantly gang up on me and my team lead (also a female) doesn't help. I'm currently looking for a new job and that helps me get through the day but I work in the pharmaceutical industry in a lab. Not sure about lab work in the dental field but working in a lab can have its downsides especially if you work at a small lab like I do. The physical size of the lab and the number of people within it should be taken into consideration during your search. Wishing you all the best in your search.

I worked in hospital pathology lab x just couldn't afford to love on apprentice wage but ave saved a bit now so maybe I can see if I can go back xxx I work in a normal dental environment ATM xx

[Koko2]

I prefer working in female-dominated workplaces because at male-dominated workplaces or even balanced-sex workplaces, the men have generally treated me as though I'm gay and sexually harassed me, and the women have ignored me. At a female-dominated place, I was almost a don juan with competitive interest from several women, which is saying something since I've only had a couple girlfriends. However, I've heard that it's a bad situation for women.

It is if ur constantly getting pulled into the boss for stuff u didn't do. EVERYDAY and ontop of that they snooped into my twitter and used that against me ... Even tho I had it on private so yeah they made a fake profile up and basically ur it all against me cos I swear a lot lol xx

[Jan1212]

This has nothing to do with "females vs males" why are people re-enforcing this stereotype. It can be both ways. Males can be just as bad, sometimes worse. This has to do with your workplace, it is toxic. I don't even think it's your carreer "because it is female dominated". Don't blame it on women...blame it on those particular co-workers.

Oh I think different people do better in male, female or mixed environments. Over abundance or estrogen or testosterone can definitely be felt. Plus men and women are socialized differently. They organize differently. Not everybody is skilled at identifying the dynamics. Who the alpha is etc. I'm certainly not great at it but I am proof you can learn it. That said I hate both male and female environments.

The op hasn't said she is being bullied in this workplace which is what the topic is. Just that she is concerned about it.

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[Jan1212]

I am aware she is concerned. But these comments stated it's becxause it's a woman dominated field, and because of that stereotype, suggested she'd change her field of work. Not because of her workplace [that she has been bullied at].

Originally Posted by Jan1212

This has nothing to do with "females vs males" why are people re-enforcing this stereotype. It can be both ways. Males can be just as bad, sometimes worse. This has to do with your workplace, it is toxic. I don't even think it's your carreer "because it is female dominated". Don't blame it on women...blame it on those particular co-workers.

U don't understand it's happened in most surgeries I've worked at . And trust me that's loads x

It just must be me. I duno why it happens x

Originally Posted by Jan1212

I am aware she is concerned. But these comments stated it's becxause it's a woman dominated field, and because of that stereotype, suggested she'd change her field of work. Not because of her workplace [that she has been bullied at].

Read the post. She didn't say she is being bullied. She is worried about it because of past experience. And women will gang up on women. This isn't a stereotype. Some groups have grown past middle school but I wouldn't bet on getting that lucky. She might be able to learn how to work in a woman dominated field just as I have learned to work in a male dominated field but it doesn't mean you are going to be comfortable with it. Or that it is worth the trouble. Often I can't avoid an all male team and you know what? I am burnt out by it. So I am also working on getting out. Ultimately she needs to decide what's good for her and I have confidence she knows that.

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Take a look at this:

http://www.simmons.edu/som/docs/insights_33.pdf

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[Jan1212]

It's not you, some coworkers are toxic and take their frustrations on anyone they can. I agree it can take a toll on your confidence ideally it shouldn't ever happen but unfortunately it does and it still does. I worked at a coffee place with women and it was horrible, but now I'm in nursing and it's mostly women and guess what, it hapens here too, then I learned to stand up for myself and called her out on it. I transferred to a different unit in the hospital and it was so much better with better people. I used to believe 'oh it's just hormonal women' but that was just an excuse

[Jan1212]

Originally Posted by Michanne

Read the post. She didn't say she is being bullied. She is worried about it because of past experience. And women will gang up on women. This isn't a stereotype. Some groups have grown past middle school but I wouldn't bet on getting that lucky. She might be able to learn how to work in a woman dominated field just as I have learned to work in a male dominated field but it doesn't mean you are going to be comfortable with it. Or that it is worth the trouble. Often I can't avoid an all male team and you know what? I am burnt out by it. So I am also working on getting out. Ultimately she needs to decide what's good for her and I have confidence she knows that.

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My post had to do with the comments.
If one wants to blame women and be sex-biased let it be, it's an opinion, but I don't believe in it

I see. Well, the idea is that issues in an all women team is stereotypical isn't accurate, IMO. Anymore than issues working in a male dominated team. How much of your success is due to learning how to work within that dynamic? You say you learned to stand up for yourself. In my mostly male world a woman who stands up for herself can be labeled a B. I've certainly been knocked down for that. Doesn't mean you can't. You have to go about it differently. Let it soak in in small chunks. Sometimes stroke egos for example.

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I generally get on better with men. Id like more girls to like me at work but it's hard as am 'odd' x