[ladytiger]

I have no idea how I should be negotiating salary as these temp jobs will go up a small notch. I'm asking for 20 to 22 an hour I have 4 roles under me with this job I'm a lead making 16/hour.

Again I have no intentions on staying with this job forever I want to move on yet still being offered help desk jobs. I feel like I might take on another job I may not like. I'm looking for more money to make.

Does anyone have any tips on negotiating salary?

[Quarter life]

Salary should be agreed upon when signing your employment contract at the onset. However, dependant on your duties and if your duties change over time, there should be a contingency clause within your contract that denotes that your rate of pay will be incrementally increased when & if your role changes. This aside..It doesn't hurt to have a sit down with your employer to outline the skills & experience you bring to the position, including extra duties you have taken on in the course of your employment that would justify a raise in hourly rate.

All in all...be well prepared when negotiating pay, as you will need to be able to sell your employer on what you believe you are worth. All the best of luck.

[seesaw]

When you get offered the job, simply come back and say "I think with my skills and experience and the role and requirements of this position that $X amount would be a more appropriate starting salary."

If you're already employed and negotiating, you can say something like what you are doing in the role and how it's important to the company, explain why you think it's appropriate for your salary to be increased and then say what you would like.

Seesaw

[ladytiger]

College didn't teach me very well on salary negotiating. That's my prob is trying to convince them. These positions I'm getting are lower level help desk positions I have a lot of technology skills under me I can maximize that plus being in this leadership which I feel could put me at 20 to 22 an hour.

I have level one support email handling financial experience and now leadership i could go up to 19 an hour. I know with all of these the right training and company i can maximize these skills I know and believe I can maneuver my way to other positions of similar skill set. I'm beyond tired of phone work I have team lead on my updated resumes yet I get sent l1 help desk.

[seesaw]

Originally Posted by ladytiger

College didn't teach me very well on salary negotiating. That's my prob is trying to convince them. These positions I'm getting are lower level help desk positions I have a lot of technology skills under me I can maximize that plus being in this leadership which I feel could put me at 20 to 22 an hour.

I have level one support email handling financial experience and now leadership i could go up to 19 an hour. I know with all of these the right training and company i can maximize these skills I know and believe I can maneuver my way to other positions of similar skill set. I'm beyond tired of phone work I have team lead on my updated resumes yet I get sent l1 help desk.

I think you could turn exactly what you just said into a request for a pay raise. If you are uncomfortable saying it in person, write a letter to your supervisor and put it in writing. I did that in my last job and it worked well.

[ladytiger]

This has nothing to do with my current employer these are job offers elsewhere. I did tell a recruiter about all of my skill set insisted I take a lower pay and told her not interested I didn't want it anyway just a cheap low paying position she offered.

[ladytiger]

Originally Posted by Quarter life

Salary should be agreed upon when signing your employment contract at the onset. However, dependant on your duties and if your duties change over time, there should be a contingency clause within your contract that denotes that your rate of pay will be incrementally increased when & if your role changes. This aside..It doesn't hurt to have a sit down with your employer to outline the skills & experience you bring to the position, including extra duties you have taken on in the course of your employment that would justify a raise in hourly rate.

All in all...be well prepared when negotiating pay, as you will need to be able to sell your employer on what you believe you are worth. All the best of luck.

True. This is all done on the phone with recruiters the pay is already set by their clients when they call me.

[reb569]

I've never been good at negotiating salary. I get paid pretty good, but I know if I left and they wanted to replace me that they would have to pay someone at least 20% more than they pay me. But HR is a master at keeping raises as low as they possibly can. Each year they set a range for raises, and the max you can get usually ranges from 0% to 4%, and then, where you are in your grade also impacts that. If you are in the lower end you can get up to 4%, middle up to 3%, upper up to 2%. With a promotion you can get up to 10%. When you are in the upper end they review to see if they can adjust your level.

For years I was getting 4%, largely based on being in the middle to upper end and my supervisor requesting an adjustment. Last year, the max I could get was 3%. I was rated "Expert" in one of the evaluation areas, unheard of in our company. But HR turned down the request to adjust this time.

It sucks because I worked on a major project redesigning our company website with our systems division from 2015 through 2016, and had a major role in this project. The two systems people I worked with the most got promoted to AVP and likely a 10% raise to go with that as well as an additional week of paid vacation every year. Me? 3%. It's not their fault, they have a manager that takes care of her people. My division has had managers that take care of themselves.

[hvert]

Slate had an awesome podcast on negotiating a few (many) years ago - I'd highly recommend checking that out.

Where do you want to go from helpdesk? Into something more managerial or more technical?

[reb569]

From help desk? I would say either management or technical, or both. It takes time though and I'm not sure it can be done in a temp job. I think you would need to take a permanent help desk position and then move up. If working for a decent company they will probably even pay for any training you need to prepare for that move.

[ladytiger]

Originally Posted by hvert

Slate had an awesome podcast on negotiating a few (many) years ago - I'd highly recommend checking that out.

Where do you want to go from helpdesk? Into something more managerial or more technical?

Here's my idea: I have two resumes one for tech and the other for career changing posted on job sites. With having 4 roles at my current job I want to leverage everything I'm kinda leaning more towards a Lead in another company.

If I can skip help desk positions even better I'm not gaining anything from it I don't care if it pays 2 to 3 dollars more. I got what I wanted from my current job.

I'm still looking at jobs from community college they want b.s. in most of their positions

[ladytiger]

Originally Posted by reb569

From help desk? I would say either management or technical, or both. It takes time though and I'm not sure it can be done in a temp job. I think you would need to take a permanent help desk position and then move up. If working for a decent company they will probably even pay for any training you need to prepare for that move.

That's all I get are temp jobs that's what it is now. Nothing but temp positions there was one I wanted another help desk with a gov job pays at 21/hour but no benefits one year contract.

I'm in a perm job now but I don't want to stay with this job too much stress sloppy of a start up ish company I don't trust anyone. That's why I need plan b need my back up

I see a lot of perm jobs I don't get those it's like I gotta go thru staffing then be perm which is dumb

[seesaw]

I have negotiated salary and benefits numerous times. There is usually a pay range that the job is set within. They usually offer the lowest end of the range. I always counteroffer the job offer and see what they'll come back with. They will tell you what they can and can't do. If they can't give you the higher rate, request some kind of additional benefit like extra time off or something.

It's totally possible to negotiate salary. Although I'm not sure of the precedent for it in temp positions because they literally can just request someone else. They don't necessarily bring on temp because of their skills and experience. If you get offered a permanent position from a temp position, I think then you could negotiate the salary. I'm also not familiar with help desk work so I could be totally off base. So take what I've said with a grain of salt.

At any rate, women are far less likely to negotiate than men. You should always negotiate. You won't get what you want or are worth unless you have the ovaries to ask for it. (Joke.)

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[avlady]

i will be graduating in a few months with my Bachelors in Arts and Sciences, want to work with the elderly, but i have several health problems and could only get a desk job. Does anyone know what types of desk jobs are out there? Even something from home and i want to be able to work part time. I'm not asking for much pay either, just to give me something to do and make a bit of money on the side.

[ladytiger]

Originally Posted by seesaw

I have negotiated salary and benefits numerous times. There is usually a pay range that the job is set within. They usually offer the lowest end of the range. I always counteroffer the job offer and see what they'll come back with. They will tell you what they can and can't do. If they can't give you the higher rate, request some kind of additional benefit like extra time off or something.

It's totally possible to negotiate salary. Although I'm not sure of the precedent for it in temp positions because they literally can just request someone else. They don't necessarily bring on temp because of their skills and experience. If you get offered a permanent position from a temp position, I think then you could negotiate the salary. I'm also not familiar with help desk work so I could be totally off base. So take what I've said with a grain of salt.

At any rate, women are far less likely to negotiate than men. You should always negotiate. You won't get what you want or are worth unless you have the ovaries to ask for it. (Joke.)

Seesaw

That's true as women we don't negotiate. I was offered a one year contract job something I liked about the job except I didn't like the shift hours or days. I liked the pay so I negotiated a mon to Friday schedule for that pay.

The temp agency said the client couldn't do that etc. Well I didn't know how else to negotiate for something else. I wanted to say can I speak to my future boss I was beyond tired of talking to the recruiter anyway.

I'm being offered shifts I don't want like rotational shifts. at my current job we have to have open availability. I tell recruiters i only do first shifts my body has been serioysly drained with current employer. I want the standard Monday thru Friday shift why can't I have that? I don't like swing or rotational shifts.

I can't afford to take anything lower than 16/hour. Recruiters are offering me less money I tell them I have 3 yrs in help desk I'm asking for 18 or 19 an hour nope they couldn't do that.

Maybe I could ask extra time off or something. I have a hard time with what can I give as a trade off and for it to be a win win situation?