[NatalieJastrow]

So I have worked in my job for 18 years. I know it well. Sometimes, people will ask my boss to work late. It is an "emergency". When this occurs the boss has the option of referring it to the emergency person (because the emergency person has already expected to work late and is available) but recently this has become disfavored because it is seen as piling on. I disagree. We have a mechanism it is failing because no one will use it correctly.

Now he gets paid more than double my salary and part of the reason is the acceptance that he may, from time to time, have to do work after hours.

My day ends however at the close of business hours. This is stated clearly in a memo that we put out... but that has always been the rules.

He keeps trying to get me to stay late with him, all the time, and making me have to nicely tell him that isn't appropriate.

One reason for this, is that all the people that I work with imho betray me by doing this for their bosses... some are doing it because they are just morons... some are doing it because they want to get a promotion or something. So as more and more people fail to hold the line, more and more the expectation is that I will do this and should. Without any extra pay.

Last night he tried again and, he did keep me around for 45 minutes. I nicely told him that he was on his own and he suggests to me that I am not being appropriate. When I challenge him, he is all, well it is generally though you are my representative. I said no, even on the memo we send out it says I should only be contacted during business hours.

Our customers keep contacting me however, because of all the other employees who continue to allow the line to be blurred. Without additional pay. It is said we can get leave time. But honestly -- leave time is a joke. It is impossible to get the leave time I am owed without a fight and the person covering for me almost never does the work he is supposed to do so I come back to all my work nicely preserved for me. So extra leave time isn't worth it. It is just same work less time.

One of my friends once agreed to be on 24-7 for her boss in the hopes that he would not fire her. That backfired as she really WAS on 24 -7 and he fired her anwyway. That is absolutely something I am hoping to hold off on.

If this was going to become a part of our jobs, I would want a major increase in pay. But I know better than to ask any of my moron co employees who just want to be liked.

What really bothers me is that we have had this discussion over and over and over again every single time it comes up... he clearly has no intention of respecting it and is going to keep trying. You might say, don't answer the phone, and I have. Still he stubbornly tries to get me to stay the next time. And clearly this is souring our relationship because he thinks I should stay. It is making me very resentful of him and everyone else.

This is the second time in a month something like this happened and i am really getting tried of it and concerned that these idiots who can't say no are going to ruin it or me.

[Yaowen]

I think your boss is being very unfair to you. And what the others are doing is making the whole situation worse. Something a little bit similar was going on where I used to work and I was very upset about it. My heart goes out to you!

[NatalieJastrow]

Originally Posted by Yaowen

I think your boss is being very unfair to you. And what the others are doing is making the whole situation worse. Something a little bit similar was going on where I used to work and I was very upset about it. My heart goes out to you!

BTW Yaowen, you always reply to me - thank you.

I was also thinking about how my friend who is covering for another boss of my type, is doing work 24-7.

But the reason she is doing that is because she is 1. in a temporary position; 2 her boss is leaving in May and 3. she is trying to rehabilitate her reputation because she got fired in the first place from someone else in a similar position.

And that was a similar situation. She had done a poor job and was trying to get favor by agreeing to work 24-7. (He fired her anyway)

So she has established this situation 100% for her own benefit because she can't do the job within working hours.

I actually called her up and told her I was angry with her. She was nice enough to agree but has no intent of changing.

[divine1966]

They better pay extra if they want you to stay. If not, I’d say I have a repair person coming in/guests are arriving/appointment/ etc every single time.

[NatalieJastrow]

Originally Posted by divine1966

They better pay extra if they want you to stay. If not, I’d say I have a repair person coming in/guests are arriving/appointment/ etc every single time.

I hate that I have to lie though. But I guess i am going to have to.

Recently with another person they wanted me to stay late on a Friday before we were getting a big blizzard.

I said I was busy.. and I got all these making fun of me e-mails because of the blizzard how could I be busy... but the truth was .. I was busy because I had to prepare the blizzard. I just ignored it but felt I shouldn't have had to get made fun of like that.

I guess i am going to have to from now on. I already stopped responding to anything after 5 PM but this time i was on the phone at 5 so he was like tell them 10 more minutes, tell them 10 more minutes. Keeping me on the line.

[divine1966]

Well you don’t have to lie per se if you make it vague. “I made plans already”, “I have something going on today”. Vague enough. They don’t know what it is. It could be plans to watch a tv show. Or take online class you already paid for. Not their business.

Blizzard will require making plans. It could be to run buy something essential before it hits (cat food, medication etc). Or order groceries ASAP. Or move trash cans inside. Ton of things might have to be done. Again not their business. You might be having virtual therapy session regardless of the weather. So many things now are online. They don’t know what you are doing. You have a pet that requires immediate medical attention.

Making fun is uncalled for. Ridiculous

[sarahsweets]

Have you tried asking? "You seem to value my work by asking me to stay late. When is my next salary review"

[NatalieJastrow]

Originally Posted by sarahsweets

Have you tried asking? "You seem to value my work by asking me to stay late. When is my next salary review"

Awkwardly the person in charge of me here isn't the person who gives me the salary.

The person who gives me the salary would offer me compensatory time. But I don't want that because it is a joke. Whenever I take time off the person who "covers for me" just puts all the work on my desk for when I return. I have complained but they do nothing about it.

I guess my issue is that they are always trying to get me to stay late and they refuse to address it until it comes up and I have to start the argument all over again which makes it so I have to stay late.

[divine1966]

Sometimes it’s just not about money. There is this one extra task I don’t want to do because it’s too time consuming and frankly aggravating, it takes too much of my time and it’s not even rewarding.. I agreed to take it on before, did it on couple of occasions but now I don’t want to do it. They tried to convince me by reminding that new contract stipulates $50 per hour for this task. But I don’t want to do it even if it paid 100 an hour. I have no time, I am tired, i need to have a life, I just don’t want to do it. Period. There’s more to life than work.

[NatalieJastrow]

So today is a day off. My boss is supposedly out of the office. I get a text this morning at 8:20 asking if we should get someone to cover for me today.

Ok
1. You are out of the office. I am entitled to believe that you are not going to be doing anything... when you are out of the office. You allegedly were going to be driving to New Jersey.

2. My out of office says clearly (and he knows this) that any duty matter should go to the duty person. ANYTHING ELSE CAN BE DELT WITH WHEN I RETURN!

Angry.. so angry... this is going to ruin my day and, he texted me so I would see it.

I am not answering. He can do what he wants.

[FloatThruThis]

Good for you NatalieJastrow. I don’t blame you at all for feeling frustrated. Keep taking care of yourself & best wishes.

[NatalieJastrow]

When I returned the next day I sent my boss an e-mail stating that I saw he got someone to cover and they did some of my - non urgent work - so, to me, that seems like his around and available for work? I said, I had thought you were driving and wouldn't be available.

He said I was absolutely right and he wasn't available.

But he sent me e-mails all day anyway.

Just more blurring the lines. He chooses to work 24-7 because that is what he likes and he gets paid well over 200K per year. I do not...

The worst part is I feel like he is gaslighting me. He sent me an email and said I shouldn't be working on my day off.. but then you send me a text on my day off. And he is constantly "forgetting" the policys -- whenever called on the fact.

[divine1966]

These idiots. Opening their texts and emails is time consuming so it’s work!!!! They send you work emails on the weekends and then tell you not to work on the weekends. Idiots.