[Psyclox]

I finally decided to quitr drugs and alcohol altogether well maybe I'll have a beer every now and then but the drugs are out and i mean it this time I cannot risk going to rehabfor sumting this stupid, DRUGS ARE BAD FOR YOU.

[BlueFaith]

I'm rooting for you Psyclox! I know you can do it! I'm sure coming to a decision like this isn't easy. And it's probably even harder to actually go through with it all. But I know you can do it. You're strong! I'm standing behind ya!

[SilkySpeed7]

Drugs are very bad for you! I have been sober for a month now. Being pregnant helps a lot although my with my first I smoked pot all the time. I am sure I could rationalise myself into it but I am actually proud of myself for not. Its very very hard but hey it is doable. They say 90 days, 90 meetings. A lot of people believe that you can't get sober without aa/na............One day at a time........support is always there.........If I wasn't pregnant I don't think I would have quit. BUT SO THANKFUL THAT I DID no matter the reason, I am 25 and am sick of being stupid. It's time to grow up and deal with life oppose to hiding from it............oh, it gets hard not knowing how to cope though...........no drugs, no razor and the tears wont spilll.............where is the relief..................Found somehow, somewhere...........ahhhhhhh...................the joys of soberity beat nothing else though, it is a euphoric high on it's own...................

[BamaSurvivor]

Congrats on wanting to quit. Admitting you have a problem is the first step to recovery. I wish you all the best in the world and hope it works out for you.

[shadowalker164]

Now that all the warm and fuzzy, you are going to just fine stuff has been said, let me tell you what’s going to happen. if you, and I quote “maybe I'll have a beer every now and then”. You will use again if you do that. As sure as that brown stuff smells, if you drink, you’ll use.

If you want to get clean, get clean, period!

I was sitting in the detox that I take a meeting into every week and this guy was telling me that liquor wasn’t his problem, it was crack. I asked him if he ever smoked crack out of an empty beer can. He said sure, all the time. And then I asked him what he did with the beer in the can, did he pour it out or did he drink it.

You are scared s###less about never coping a buzz again. Maybe just a few brews to take the edge off. If you don’t find a solution that removes that obsession to get buzzed, you will be right back where you don’t want to be faster than you imagine.

I have seen your story play out too many times for me to tell you that the path you have laid out for yourself will lead you to what you want to go. It won’t.

Get 100% clean or go back out.

Richard

[BlueFaith]

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I was simply trying to offer support. Psyclox, I've never been through anything like this, so I can't tell you how to do it, or how it's going to feel, or what steps to take in order to get to where you need to be. But, I can offer some uplifting words and my friendship if you want it. So, yes, I believe the warm and fuzzy stuff is important. Take care.

[JustBen]

Good luck going forward, Psyclox. Hopefully you'll find some support in both the advice and the "warm and fuzzies". Most of us need both kinds.

[allthegirls6]

Im sending you strength and determination.

All the girls

[shadowalker164]

MP,
I have been through what Phyclox is facing. Trying to figure out how in the world can I just manage to get a little bit loaded. Maybe cop a buzz and not have all those unfortunate things happen to me.

I couldn’t do it. And God knows that I tried every trick I could think of. Nobody could tell me that I was wasting my time trying to manage my active addiction. I had to find out the hard way. Probably so will Phyclox.

I was not busting your chops with that remark about warm and fuzzy, good people like you are a blessing. Thank God for all of you. The point that I was trying to make is that just saying “I’m quitting, “and adding the caveat of a few beers now and then is pure delusional thinking for an addict.

You may not know that. Like you said, “I’ve never been through anything like this”
But as a recovering alcoholic/addict I have and I know that for us, getting just a little stoned is a cruel hoax.

If Phyclox thinks he/she can make it work, go for it. Just remember that you were told how it would play out. An addict or alcoholic is either clean and sober of they are not. There is no wiggle room in this recovery business. I have seen his/her plan fail way too often to buy that noise.

At any rate, MP, this world needs more people like you. Your friend,

Richard

[BamaSurvivor]

Richard is right... It is good to have support from people that give the "warm fuzzies", but the truth must be known as well.

I was on my way to 11 months clean until I got a big head and thought one hit of dope wouldn't do me any harm. That one hit of dope turned into two hits... Those two hits turned into me completely relapsing and losing all the clean time I had. BUT, I did learn from it and took with me everything I've learned on the way. I know it is possible to recover from addiction, this is a fact. But you have to WANT it, you have to DESIRE it, you have to FEEL it in you that you want it.

[BlueFaith]

Richard,

Oh, no! I did not think you were "busting my chops" at all! LOL I just meant that I think the warm and fuzzies are important, too. That's all. I couldn't imagine a world without them.

But, I also understand where you are coming from. Like I said, I've never been in this situation. The closest I come to knowing ANYTHING about being dependant on drugs and/or alcohol is from knowing my mother. She's an alcoholic. I didn't take any offense from anything you said. I couldn't imagine being in Psyclox's shoes, and I don't ever want to be. I just want him to know that I am here for the kind words that I'm sure he'll need to hear...(and that goes for anyone else that needs them too!!). Sorry about the misunderstanding!

Bama,
I have read alot of your posts too. I can almost feel your pain through your words. I'm thinking good thoughts for you! Relapsing must make you feel like the ultimate failure. But you're not. There are people out there that wouldn't DARE try to get to the point you got to before your relapse. And even you said that you learned something from it. That's wonderful. I will tell you like I told Psyclox. I KNOW YOU CAN DO IT!! And I'll even be your own personal cheerleader if ya need it! All 3 of you, take care.

[BamaSurvivor]

Thank you for the kind words, MP! ((((( MP ))))) Yes, I did feel like the ultimate failure when it first happened, but since then I've learned sometimes relapse happens to make us stronger in recovery. I was blessed to have relapsed and make it out alive so I could learn from it and start over. Things are looking up for me, as things will look up for Psyclox if he so chooses to take the life of sobriety.

[Raynaadi]

I won't even use mouth wash with alcohol in it, nor take Nyquil or anything like it. For me to stay completely sober, I have to stay COMPLETELY sober. That's what works for me. =)