Antisocials, psychopaths, and therapy

hmmm Myers - did Mat honestly believe you would believe that story? being hyper vigilent my alarm bells were ringing at the beginning .. it definately sounded like a ... once upon a time in a land far far away story

I once hmmmmm whats the word......emmmm..... misled? my T i didnt like that i had done it - i wanted him to be superhuman i guess and see through walls - and me lol .. who knows ...maybe he did! (see through me that is not walls .. that would be EEEKKKK!!!!!) But part of me wanted to see if i could - and i def didnt want him to know the answer to what he asked me at that stage.

and Omers.. it just sounds like you behaved like an advertising exec lol

sooo is it the intention that makes the difference with manipulation - the intention to harm or heal? to mislead or benefit or just to show we can?

and if you are lieing to your T .... or misleading them.. doesnt that lessen the amount of benefit in a healing way you receive? and isnt that why you are there? unless court ordered of course in which case __ i guess all bets are off.

and Wolfie luv ya too gives everyone a hug if they want one - cos im da huginator

Myers? ready to test the waters yet?

of course he believed me. im amazing.

and I can tell stories too Michael. has he ever told you about the time he lit his bed on fire because his wife made him sleep on the couch?

I dont think it does either. everybody manipulates a little bit. and a lot of people do it for good. it's just like influencing someone, and you can do that to help them. and isnt praising a kid for cleaning or doing their homework technically manipulating them to do that more?

It was pretty awesome. Michael can laugh all he wants, but our slingshot was genius. We dominated that game.

I ended up deleting my post. I was fuming mad at my neighbor for giving my 9 yr old the middle finger.

walks in and says "lost me at the empathy bit" looking disgusted he drops off a unopened box of tissues and leaves. antisocials my ars.

it's quite obvious that there are many more "non antisocial's" frequenting this forum than there are anti socials. hence the choice to place a passive aggressive sheep holding a sign that reads like something found on a slip of paper in a chinese cracker, which is "recycled" every night into the following days cracker fillers kind of drivel in replies to posts.

i digress, why the hate for an antisocial? it does say antisocial on the door does it not? who let you in?

Gulchenrouz - some of us who aren't antisocial happen to like Myers and he doesn't mind us posting on his threads. We're not against psychopaths or antisocials at all. Wolfie is a friend of mine and I was fuming mad to the point I wanted to hurt my neighbor - wolfsong was comforting me. Myers also understands wolfsong's sense of humor.

If anyone would understand that kind of rage a psychopath would and I needed to vent . Myers doesn't mind us, so why should you. I deleted my post because it was a vent about my rotten neighbor not people here. You can drop me an empty box of Kleenex if you want - 'blows nose in my hands'.

spoke to myers yesterday in chat, thanks for the link, knew it would be safe to rant in here.

ever considered we wanted somewhere safe to rant? having only just come back to the site after 5 years? we're not here for advice, our choices are already made. These are the consequences we have to live with now i'm reduced to ranting at a reflection of myself on a laptop screen just so i don't leave the house.

and i am the one in the wrong?

Since Myers came here I have never once told him to change and I've supported him here even when others haven't. Since I literally felt like causing a neighbor harm, I felt I could rant about it here, but changed my mind because this is his thread. I don't care if you rant here, but don't pick on us for wolfsong comforting me. You're directing your frustration at the wrong people.

please note we noticed two posts removed thus making look what appears to be a random rant starting with a double post by me, it just isn't so like that...but i do understand the reasons why. fair enough. Been here before remember, rules. That's me being empathic, i read about that somewhere.....

have you considered the possibility that we were ranting at ourselves? what did i do visually abuse an electronic sheep?

My apologies.I did remove my posts.I apologize.Be well .

Hoping this doesn't upset anyone BUT: it was of great interest to me to see how some people are clever enough to learn how to rant and insult with impunity, by merely inserting some noxious phrase, like: "i don't mean to hurt anyone, BUT,,, "; or: "not referring to anyone on PC, BUT,,, "; and then the most hurtful of statements... somehow this is regarded as the Caveat of Concern, or something,, maybe i should try it,,, ?

It seems an interesting development occurred recently. However, the aftermath is so muddled I can't clearly make out what happened. So I'm going to happily ignore it.

Lynn, it's perfectly alright if you vent about your dark thoughts here. Everyone has them once in awhile. We won't judge you, but we might encourage you a little.

As for manipulation... Every good car salesman or retailer or journalist knows how to use language that appeals to the buyer or reader. Putting a persuasive spin on things is just a part of everyday communication. On the other hand, if you intentionally and maliciously use deception quite often with everyone, even those close to you, and thoroughly enjoy doing so, you can consider yourself having crossed that line into unethical behavior. I'm not saying normal manipulation is completely ethical and harmless, but it is common, and required in some careers. If you use a little persuasion to get something you want and it doesn't hurt anyone, you're fairly normal.

Wade and Mat... I appreciate the kind stories you all tell about me. But, as this thread focuses on therapy, I'd appreciate it more if your stories revolved around your experiences with therapy.

And, for the record... It's not that I don't like the couch. It's quite comfortable. However, unlike the bed, it doesn't have some of the finer qualities, such as a wife sleeping on it. Therefore, I had reasoned that, should anything have happened to the bed, something which had nothing whatsoever to do with me, then my loving wife would get to sleep on the couch with me, and, alas, finer qualities acquired. So I lit the bed on fire.

It didn't work out the way I had imagined it...

playing within the "rules of the site" is what happened. nothing more.

hehe. I can only imagine. You must have crushed your opponents. I won't be playing paintball with you two anytime soon.

I missed the new developments as well. Slightly lost.
I'd love to hear some of these therapy stories. Even I've had interesting therapy sessions and I'm not ASPD. and myers I'm not quite sure how to respond to you setting the bed on fire. I'll stick with interesting action for now but keep thinking about it. It might make sense to me eventually. Thanks for starting this thread.

no harm no foul is what it is or was that what it was even.

Glad to see this thread is still going strong, more have contributed and Myers you are the peacekeeper!

I popped back in to suggest maybe you guys could start a social group Social Groups, the rules are not so strict there and I feel it might be good 'therapy' for you all to have your own real space to talk. Just a thought.

Nah, I like it here. Thanks.

I think we need to create our own emoticons over here...
A flaming bed flying from a sling shot made of two crutches would be great! Oh the ways I could use that! It would be a tad more fitting than the sheep. Hell, it sounds like it might be a good response for what ever it was I missed.
I too had though about the social group thing... But... there is so much value in these threads ones you skim past the banter and if you are emotionally strong enough to be here.
@Gulchenruz I appreciate what you are bringing to the conversation. It is less socially sugar coated than what we typically see here. I hope that is allowed to remain that way.
@Lynn I don't know what I missed but like Myers I would be happy to indulge in some creative vengeance... although I know that it isn't your style.
@the sheep We are coming for you with clippers and real swearing that doesn't magically turn into little stars across our post.

What do you mean by emotionally strong enough? Do the things weve said in these posts really upset people? Im not trying to be rude or anything. I just dont understand.

We're supposed to be talking about therapy, right? I don't know about anyone else around here, but I think the most therapeutic thing I could have right now is someone who would be willing to just engage in a horrible brawl with me a couple times a week. Someone who I wouldn't have to hold back with and who wouldn't hold back with me... a near duel-to-the-death match until one or the other of us is too exhausted to move. That's what I dream of.

Wouldn't that be nice... Perhaps that's why my friends and I fight with each other so much. We secretly enjoy it.