[Crucifixio]

Hi, I am new to all this sorta stuff, and recently I believe I was diagnosed with APD. Everything I am reading on this reminds me a lot of my life and the way I have lived my life. I am lost on what to do about this since the ABD program or DSHS or whoever is telling me what to do is not actually treating me or anything. "He is severely antisocial, and unlikely to respond to treatment until he just burns out, probably after the age of 40" ~[...], Ph.D. This quote from my paperwork doesnt sound very promising to me. How does one become more in touch with the feelings and rights of others? How do I get passed the callousness of my views on everything? I have been to prison and locked up a lot in my life and it is like ingrained in me or something. How does one seek help by myself for this without having hardly any money or medical? What do I do?

[rex80]

Originally Posted by Crucifixio

Hi, I am new to all this sorta stuff, and recently I believe I was diagnosed with APD. Everything I am reading on this reminds me a lot of my life and the way I have lived my life. I am lost on what to do about this since the ABD program or DSHS or whoever is telling me what to do is not actually treating me or anything. "He is severely antisocial, and unlikely to respond to treatment until he just burns out, probably after the age of 40" ~[...], Ph.D. This quote from my paperwork doesnt sound very promising to me. How does one become more in touch with the feelings and rights of others? How do I get passed the callousness of my views on everything? I have been to prison and locked up a lot in my life and it is like ingrained in me or something. How does one seek help by myself for this without having hardly any money or medical? What do I do?

Really do sympathize with you and I recently discovered that my new bf has shown symtoms of a sociopath and I know I should be running and yet I can't get himm out of my mind. I told him what I thought and initial response was defensive but now he say he wants help and want me to hold his hand through this and please help him be normal and I am the only one that knows how effed up he is along with the ability to be himself around me. we get along great and have so much fun only fights are when he decides to disconnect and not show feeling all of a sudden, he eventually realizes and manipulations start I guess. What I am saying is being that way have and could you ever really want to change from the inside, I don't know if I can trust him???

Have you tried a spiritual resource to help...I don't know if you are willing to go that route but it is a positively great try???

[Crucifixio]

I have been working to get back in touch with my faith though it is still hard. Yes you can want to change from the inside. I do. I made more money with such ways, but money didnt make me happy, my family does, and I hurt them. It destroyed us because I was selfish looking out for my needs, wants and desires. I want to change that, I want to make myself a good man. The question is how to get there I guess.

Originally Posted by rex80

Really do sympathize with you and I recently discovered that my new bf has shown symtoms of a sociopath and I know I should be running and yet I can't get himm out of my mind. I told him what I thought and initial response was defensive but now he say he wants help and want me to hold his hand through this and please help him be normal and I am the only one that knows how effed up he is along with the ability to be himself around me. we get along great and have so much fun only fights are when he decides to disconnect and not show feeling all of a sudden, he eventually realizes and manipulations start I guess. What I am saying is being that way have and could you ever really want to change from the inside, I don't know if I can trust him???

Have you tried a spiritual resource to help...I don't know if you are willing to go that route but it is a positively great try???

[AlphaMikeFoxtrot]

Originally Posted by rex80

Really do sympathize with you and I recently discovered that my new bf has shown symtoms of a sociopath and I know I should be running and yet I can't get himm out of my mind. I told him what I thought and initial response was defensive but now he say he wants help and want me to hold his hand through this and please help him be normal and I am the only one that knows how effed up he is along with the ability to be himself around me.....What I am saying is being that way have and could you ever really want to change from the inside, I don't know if I can trust him???

So you've diagnosed him as sociopathic, and now he wants help with that?

To the OP: Sorry man, I can't offer any advice. I'm not anticipating any help whatsoever, myself.

Originally Posted by Crucifixio

How does one become more in touch with the feelings and rights of others? How do I get passed the callousness of my views on everything? ...

One doesn't. One simply realizes that what is best for society is inevitably best for one.

[Crucifixio]

So basically your saying there isn't hope?

Originally Posted by Michael D.

One doesn't. One simply realizes that what is best for society is inevitably best for one.

Originally Posted by Crucifixio

So basically your saying there isn't hope?

Hope for becoming more compassionate and cuddly? It depends on the severity of the disorder and the cause. But it's easier to just live with it, in my opinion. It doesn't take emotions to realize that harming others and society is going to result in retaliation.

[Crucifixio]

Well maybe not overdoing it, with cuddly and all, but more sympathetic or something. Yeah it is easy to see when your hurting someone or breaking laws, but how do you start to care that you do it? Or at least understand ones position more. I dunno what I am asking I guess.

Originally Posted by Michael D.

Hope for becoming more compassionate and cuddly? It depends on the severity of the disorder and the cause. But it's easier to just live with it, in my opinion. It doesn't take emotions to realize that harming others and society is going to result in retaliation.

[Crucifixio]

Thanks for replying.

Oftentimes, people with sympathy do more damage than people who don't. They understand how to hurt others better. Being considerate doesn't require emotions, it just requires logic. And in that respect, once you have it down, you're more like a frustrated aspie than a psychopath when it comes down to it. Just don't agonize too much... Not that I should really talk; but once I notice I'm too concerned with it, I realize it's best to find a new approach. : )

Originally Posted by Crucifixio

Well maybe not overdoing it, with cuddly and all, but more sympathetic or something. Yeah it is easy to see when your hurting someone or breaking laws, but how do you start to care that you do it?

...by realizing that what's best for them is best for you. The most successful people in the world get where they are by forging bonds, not destroying them.

Or at least understand ones position more. I dunno what I am asking I guess.

Unless there's more to you than ASPD, you should be quite adept at reading people. It does take practice. But, basically, just listen.