How are you all dealing with coronavirus and the restrictions... #2

I wouldn't be surprised if they are creating false positives, considering the number of people who have tested positive. Also, my cousin got his test soon after contracting the virus and tested negative. When he got back to the US, he started experiencing symptoms, so he did have the virus, but it was too early for the test to detect it. Meanwhile, I really feel that I am recovered and not contagious, but I can't go back to the US.

I'm so sorry @downandlonely - I hope you can at least enjoy the extra time you have with family while there. I can't imagine what it feels like to be blocked from coming back to the US! This reminds me of the old 2020 times when the pandemic first began.

Just a few days later and we are up to 685 per 100.000

I'm getting to a point where I kind of just want to get getting infected over with. Not so much that I would go to a corona party or stop wearing a mask I'm still concerned about long covid. And I don't want to be the one to bring covid into the office.

Or maybe I've even already had an asymptomatic case, but I guess that would be unlikely with how little I've been around people the last 2 years.

I wish I knew how I was doing anti body wise. Do I really need a booster?

There might be more restrictions coming up in Germany where places that are currently open to vaccinated & recovered people will also require a negative test (on top of the vaccination certificate) - except for people who have received a booster. It's so much - getting a shot every 3 months? And I've been lucky wih very little side effects. Stil I'd be worried about how my body.would react to a next shot.

I imagine we might need a shot every 6 months for a while.

My grandson has covid. His unvaccinated asshole father is the reason why.

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I will be thinking of your grandson. I hope he will be ok.

Sorry to read about your grandson and hope he will get well soon. Our friend’s family got it and the 2 year old was most poorly of them all but he’s back to health now.

Because I got covid as a breakthrough infection and was vaccinated I was offered blood antibody tests, the 1st one was 3 weeks ago when I was still infected and that was before I had a chance to develop antibodies from that infection. All I was told was I did have antibodies which were likely from previous vaccination or infection (as I did lateral flow tests regularly all last year it will have been my vaccine.

So if you wanted you could buy a blood antibody test kit and it would tell you if you have antibodies- I don’t think any of them specify the level though.

Of course there is also T-cell response and other different reactions- the tests don’t measure those I think.

I’m getting my 2nd test kit sent out in next few days, so hopefully there should be antibodies from natural infection too now but I’m fully expecting to just be told I have antibodies which won’t give me much useful detail. Still, hopefully the results will be useful to the study.

Anyhow I’m getting my booster on Wednesday anyhow, I’ve heard quite a few tales of unwell ness with number 3 but my son and husband were fine with theirs - curiously neither of them caught covid off me either. Another mystery.

Actually the people I know had unwell ness with shot number 2 but everyone was fine with the number 3 booster. Me, I just a a very slightly sore arm, with the booster, that was it.

The website you shared said the tests aren't for the general public, and they are for a specific group of people who hold certain jobs.

It also reiterates that it doesn't detect immunity or spreading:

I was referring to your initial suggestion written and posted to another member:

You didn't specific what you meant here, which could easily influence others on the board to see that as a viable suggestion (to purchase an a test) and thereby cause some misinformation (unintentional) or even disinformation (intentional) to occur thereafter. If you had instead suggested that there was a research study your friend could join (which I'm not sure is allowed on the forums), that would be different.

But even then, here's what the "Community Guidelines" state about research:

I really feel you’ve misunderstood my post - this was what I wrote:

I feel this is clear. You can legally buy antibody tests, but they don’t tell you how many antibodies you have or anything about T cells or any other immune reactions. It was meant to be a discussion. I made it clear I got covid despite having antibodies.

The NHS would not offer free tests to anyone because they are a public funded healthcare system - the link states they are offered to anyone who tests positive on PCR however and that is why I am doing them, it’s to contribute to knowledge.

I didn’t advocate anyone join the study, I simply stated I was doing a study. Break is in Germany she couldn’t be in a UK study anyhow.

Please do not accuse me of spreading misinformation because I can assure you I am the last person to do so. However we are all adults here and can I hope discuss amongst ourselves.

Common Myths of Covid Vaccines and Otherwise (combatting misinformation and disinformation):

The Top COVID-19 Vaccine Myths Spreading Online | Britannica

What is misinformation (unintentional): Misinformation - Wikipedia

And more explanations to help stop misinformation from spreading:

“Misinformation” vs. “Disinformation”: Get Informed On The Difference - Dictionary.com

It wasn’t wrong information. I stated the truth.

I no longer feel welcome or comfortable in this thread.

@Discombobulated - I'm sorry. I am a bit sensitive to certain things. I didn't mean to make you feel unwelcome. I've dealt with so many antivaxxers and antimaskers in Idaho online that I've gotten a bit sensitive to certain words and phrases.

I am sorry if I accused you of misinformation when you were telling your truth about your experiences. I just kind of "lost it" (call it "pangry") when I saw your suggestion to buy antibody kits or something. I didn't know what you meant, and i should have asked instead of assumed. But I also didn't want it to go in the direction of people starting to suggest that and share that or something. I get worried about the safety of others when it comes to stuff like that.

Please feel free to post.

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Originally Posted by Discombobulated It wasn’t wrong information. I stated the truth. I no longer feel welcome or comfortable in this thread.

I can’t speak for @SprinkL3 but I feel like this might be a bit of a misunderstanding. You are totally welcome and I love your posts!

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Here are a few links that discuss antibody tests, and why they shouldn't be used to see if you need a booster, or to see if your last vaccine shot is still viable, or to see if your last Covid infection is protective, etc. They don't work. There's research being done on these things, but there's nothing definitive right now.

COVID Antibody Tests Won't Tell You What You Want to Know | The Pew Charitable Trusts

Antibody Testing Is Not Currently Recommended to Assess Immunity After COVID-19 Vaccination: FDA Safety Communication | FDA

Using Antibody Tests for COVID-19 | CDC

Here's info on how to avoid spreading misinformation: 7 ways to avoid becoming a misinformation superspreader

Anyone can fall victim to accidentally spreading misinformation when they share something they think is true, or they misinterpret something and then share that misinterpretation.

Here are 7 ways to avoid accidentally spreading misinformation:


I inherently stand by #6, especially when engaging online. If I see something, I will say something. I do this as a form of protection to both the public and the publisher of information. It's not meant as an attack, but rather as a guidance to alert us to how vulnerable we all are - myself included - which can stem from not being used to this time and era when even the slightest flaw in communication could be harmful when others misunderstand that information. Being more clear about what is being said will help dispel any intentions of spreading accidental harm.

I LITERALLY JUST MADE THIS POST AND POSTED THIS IN ALL FOUR OF MY FACEBOOK COMMUNITY GROUPS!!



The other day in all three community groups I belong to someone posted this picture as a test site option. I immediately knew something was off. I apologize for not sleuthing it out quicker but it took me a minute. THIS IS NOT A LEGITIMATE TEST SITE!!
“Infinity medical services “ is not affiliated with any approved state or federal agency, no legitimate labs and “hardcodes” information via webcoding to basically churn out generic information about test results to scores of different people. So many people have been given incorrect results- false positives or negatives- then been sick enough to need the hospital. Or spread covid around. In some cases a person tested at various scam sites like this one, gotten suspicious and gone somewhere else. Only to get two different results! There are also cases of personal information being stolen.
Some didn’t even get results at all! Oh and many got back door insurance bills for tests that are free. It’s important to note that many of these places will hijack part of or all of another business’s name or a similar business. There are probably loads of “infinity medical…” businesses and many could be labs or medical in nature but they are not real.

It pisses me off to no end that this is happening!! It’s so hard to get a test, rapid tests are sold out and so many employers want a negative test to return to work what the hell is an employee supposed to do? Or parent?
And you know how I feel about real scientific legitimate information! (No one roll their eyes to hard please)!

*First I saved the photo. I recorded where I’d seen it. Before I started checking New Jersey I first did some research about this phenomenon nationwide.

Center for COVID Control testing? Americans describe long waits

Then I started googling and checking NJ:

Fake COVID Tests in NJ and How to Spot the Scams | Morristown, NJ Patch

Alleged Fake NJ COVID Testing Facility May Have to Pay Those Claiming to Be Duped – NBC New York

In Philly:

Philadelphia'''s unauthorized COVID sites, and the opportunity to scam people during the omicron wave.

We are all trying our best. We are all in the same boat. It’s disgusting. Please do not post obscure, obtuse or sketchy pictures or information from covid sites you either :
Haven’t googled
Haven’t been to yourself
Haven’t found online information about
Haven’t read reviews about
Haven’t checked the social media pages of.
I fault no one if they’ve fallen for this. I mean, sure assholes exist but I thought assholishness had its limits. It seems legit for someone desperate for their kid to go back to school and parents or anyone who just wants to do their jobs and earn a living. I wish I remembered Who shared this. If they are local or part of the community and you know them please encourage them to message me so I can share information with them to share with others. If this person is in our community their intentions were good. If this is new member with like 4 posts who joined two weeks ago that no one knows please either check them out on your own and share that they are “safe “ or report the post to the admin’s for investigation or removal. I will be making this post public in all of my groups so feel free to share.

We just need to be good humans and help each other out.

{ALSO: I’m in a frenzy typing but have arthritis. If you see a typo, grammatical error or something totally stupid please tell me and I’ll edit. I promise it’s just a fast mind with clumsy hands, not stupidity!}



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@downandlonely I hope you test negative soon! It is too bad this omicron went wild just in time for your long awaited trip.
@Discombobulated I really enjoy your posts about what is going on Covidwise where you live and hope you stay in the thread. Shot #2 was worse for me than shot #3, fwiw, but it seems to have no rhyme or reason and I was getting Moderna.
@sarahsweets Your grandson is adorable. I hope he feels better soon.

This omicron is wild. One of my friends posted 'if you don't have Covid right now, raise your hand.' It amazes me that one person in a house can have it and not give it to everyone else.

I get tested again tomorrow. Wish me luck!

I just read a news article that stated:

"Store owners point out that the number of infections are still going up, despite stores being closed. This leads them to conclude that stores and restaurants do not pose a risk."



Now I agree with them that maybe closing all non essential stores is not really the best way to fight a pandemic. But their logic makes absolutely NO SENSE at all. How does infections going up prove that stores don't pose a risk of infection?? You could also draw the conclusion that this new strain is so infectious, we need more restrictions.

I found this link through an article talking about the bad Things ivermectin can do to your body etc. If media companies and social media is trying to combat miss information why is this the first search result when you look up this group that supposedly supports it in advertising backs it. Why is that? That?

Ivermectin in COVID-19 - FLCCC | Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance

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I do understand you, but your contribution is valuable for us. Very valuable.

Gals and guys!
It seems we are under different circumstances now in the pandemia. Now, that the “developed countries” citizens are vaccinated, this turned out as a flu.
We weren’t able to stop the pandemia before it became what it became - a pandemia- . Unluckily we lost many people because of our ignorance. Luckily, with the vaccines and new medications covid-19 is becoming as another virus, as the flu.
It’s only a matter of time ( a little of time) that here, in developed countries, it becomes another ordinary desease.

I wonder what’s the point in restrictions now?
We must be so grateful to scientist who achieved a vaccine in such short period of time.

This is a story of failure and victory at the same time. We are able to do the best and the worst, at the same time.

Thanks, Science!

I wonder if they will ever stop restrictions now. It used to be that we would accept 50,000 people dying of flu in a year in the US and not force lockdonws, masks or vaccinations. Now the thinking is that we have to save every life we possibly can so I don;t see the way back to any kind of normality. I had a busy weekend of concerts lined up but 3 of them just got cancelled.