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Old Jan 07, 2013, 07:19 PM
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Hey guys, I realise Orange just posted exactly what I would say, so

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Old Jan 14, 2013, 02:17 AM
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I am encouraged that there are others who are suffering from the same thing as I am.

I am a early 30s female with a steady boyfriend of seven years who only has one close friend. You wouldn't normally conclude that I am AvPD but my problem is in making friends. Not in keeping a committed relationship going. My main issue has always been one-on-one versus group relations. I can talk all day long one-on-one with someone but put me in a room with random strangers and I feel paranoid and inferior. I rarely will go up to people in a group or join group conversation. After several failed attempts to meet friends through facebook and in real life, I have started concluding that there must be something I am giving off that is driving people away. I have always assumed that if no one bothers to speak to you (even if you try to speak to them) it must mean they have no interest in you.

I have become somewhat antsy, depressed, angry and withdrawn in regards to this. My whole life now revolves around my boyfriend and I (he has more friends than me but only talks to them online because they live in other cities) and I often think I am dragging him down with me as I go on this tirade against humanity as it were, just because I perceive that no one give's two rat butt's about me or what I would have to say.

Things that complicate matters are: I don't drive and I don't like talking on the phone.

I find that if I can get someone close to me, I would be their very best friend. I do consider friendship sort of a sacred thing like a love relationship because when I have a good friend, I feel I should be able to tell them everything and trust them and vice versa but I feel such closeness is all but lacking in society.

Any advice on keeping sane and not becoming a lonely widow in a house full of cats?
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Old Jan 14, 2013, 08:46 AM
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hi all i was diagnosed with this like 5 years ago and i was diagnosed by 2 psychiatrist and 1 psychologist and iam not so happy about it

well recently i just read this and thought i would share it here hope it would help somehow

http://outofthefog.net/Disorders/AVPD.html
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Old Jan 14, 2013, 01:19 PM
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Thanks for the link Silently .

Liriel hello and welcome to the forum.

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I go on this tirade against humanity as it were, just because I perceive that no one give's two rat butt's about me or what I would have to say.
Reminds me of me and how I sit on a simmering pit of anger for more or less the same reasons. I started a thread about anger recently in the AvPD forum, I suspect that quite a few of us probably have a ground swell of anger/resentment going on, though maybe not all of us are aware of it. It's very threatening.

Hey snap about hating talking on the phone. I think I get how frightening it must be for you feeling like your life revolves around only you and your boyfriend - that's fine except when you start thinking of 'what if...' and fearing being left alone. Or just have an argument and suddenly it feels like the end of the world...

Anyway, glad you got the courage up to post, welcome again

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Old Jan 14, 2013, 04:04 PM
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I live in permanent fear of all the judgements and criticisms and rejections by others that my own perceptions keep throwing up all the time, even when I’m alone and there’s no-one around to do the judging. Like I’ve got a permanent judge inside my head monitoring every thought and feeling and perception, action and word, and I feel like I’m being watched, scrutinized, seen by the whole world.
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The whole idea of ‘challenging’ fears by testing reality just doesn’t work for me – because I still come away from interactions with people convinced that I have shown myself up for the bad wrong unacceptable unlikeable unwantable person I really am and nothing anyone can say (if they bother to say anything at all that is) can undo that negative emotional conviction.
Well, OK... but if you keep demonstrating that you're bad, wrong, unacceptable, unlikeable and unwantable but no one notices -- we go right on liking and admiring you and appreciating what you post, for instance -- then how much difference does it actually make that you're bad, wrong, unacceptable, unlikeable and unwantable? Is there any sort of test for who is and who isn't? I was thinking that if we all turned out to be bad, wrong, unacceptable, unlikeable and unwantable, you might fit right in!

By any chance is there (or was there) someone in particular who considers (or once considered) you bad, wrong, unacceptable, unlikeable and unwantable? In that case I can see where you might want to prove to them that you weren't or (worst case) let them prove to you that you were so you'd at least know what you were dealing with. Even if they were no longer available for discussion, though, you could have that same conversation with an empty chair.
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Old Jan 14, 2013, 05:51 PM
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I was thinking that if we all turned out to be bad, wrong, unacceptable, unlikeable and unwantable, you might fit right in!
ROFL!!! Now that's a very good way indeed of looking at it .

But THIS for the empty chair. One of my early Ts (psychodrama) said that I had a very limited role repertoire because I just couldn't do the reversing roles thing with the empty chair. Yeah a limited repertoire of roles of just one! That was thirty years ago and I still can't do the empty chair thing. I expect though that as soon as I can trust my T things like that will become possible for me. It's all to do with fear...

Yes you're right of course Fooze (being the wise soul that you are ) there was someone, in fact many someones in the past who gave me a headful of anti-me to contend with - it's no longer them I need to convince though, it's me . I've done a really good job of carrying on the work they started. I'm sure even they would be appalled at the level of self criticism that goes on in my head... well hmmmm on thinking about it, maybe not...

Besides, sometimes it's nice to let go having to fight all this negative stuff and just wallow in it, the relief of knowing hey this IS what I believe and think and right now I don't care how whiney or self pitying or defeatist it sounds, it's good to relax into it sometimes. I do get really tired of having to fight myself all the time .

Thanks for posting ((((( Fooze )))))

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Old Feb 06, 2013, 12:56 PM
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Hi all. My T Dxed me with AvPD yesterday. But only because I cornered him into it by asking if he thought I was mildly autistic or something. I've been seeing him over 2 years now and I think he didn't want to label me with anything because he didn't want me discouraged.

I don't doubt his Dx, as he's written tons of research, etc on properly diagnosing and treating personality disorders. And I do fit all the characteristics of it, and I've always felt I had more than just social phobia blocking me from progress. I've had this my whole life. *sigh*

So... hi.
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Old Feb 06, 2013, 05:20 PM
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QuietCat,
It is good to hear that you are working with a tdoc. When I have been dx'd with things (depression, anxiety, avpd) it has been kind of shocking. First it's shocking to be dx'd; then it's shocking when a person reads about this and sees the similarity.
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