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Old Mar 29, 2010, 02:55 PM
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Could you please tell whether the medication teva-venlafaxine is more commonly associated with bi-polar or BPD ??My partner has been on it for a while now and I am not convinced if its for one disorder or the other --she takes 2-75mg pills a day usually at night before bed .Recently I am starting to wonder if she is more bi-polar or BPD ...We have been together for a long period of time and only now pursuing counselling a a result of many , many episodes of sexual proiscuity on her part -probably up to 15 times that i know about ,as well as other associated characteristics of compulsive spending , etc.......This web page has certainly opened my eyes -only wish i had done this a long time ago....Cheers....

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Old Mar 29, 2010, 03:48 PM
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There are no professionally recognized medications for bpd. Though some of the symptoms (depression, anxiety) can be treated with medication. As far as I know, Effexor (venlafaxine) is used for depression.
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Old Mar 29, 2010, 07:15 PM
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Effexor (teva venlafaxine) used to treat depression, anxiety and panic attacks is supposed to decrease sexual desire, but side effects can include anxiety, and bizarre behaviors just to name a few. Your friend should check back in with the Dr. to give an update on how she is responding to her meds so that adjustments can be made if needed. The medication usually builds up an adequate level in the body to reach therapeutic status after about 4 weeks. Hope this helps! She needs to keep approaching her Dr. until she finds the tx. she needs. You are such a good friend to go to all the trouble to find out more on how to help her. She is very lucky!!!!
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Old Mar 29, 2010, 08:35 PM
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The most recognized treatment for BPD is DBT (Dialectical Behavioral Therapy). It is a group (usually once a week) where you learn coping skills and how to change behaviors. Also need to see a DBT therapist once every week and usually need to see a psychiatrist once or twice a month. It's pretty intense, but I know people who have gone through it and have made significant progress in changing behaviors, and several of them are considered recovered. Thought you might want to look into it...best of luck to you both!
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Could you please tell whether the medication teva-venlafaxine is more commonly associated with bi-polar or BPD ??My partner has been on it for a while now and I am not convinced if its for one disorder or the other --she takes 2-75mg pills a day usually at night before bed .Recently I am starting to wonder if she is more bi-polar or BPD ...We have been together for a long period of time and only now pursuing counselling a a result of many , many episodes of sexual proiscuity on her part -probably up to 15 times that i know about ,as well as other associated characteristics of compulsive spending , etc.......This web page has certainly opened my eyes -only wish i had done this a long time ago....Cheers....

hi there...well a lot of peoplehad advise to give on the meds but with the sexualy issues yes it does sound more on teh side of bipoalr...but she can in fact have both becaue i do ...i was diangoised with the bipolar just 4 yrs ago and the bdp a few dyas ago so i am still etiting it all settle in but i know its been there for a very long time just never had that name for it is all...but as said have said sounds liek she neds to check in with her doc and tweek her meds espacially if she is not on a modd stablizer that is what is needed the most for the bipolar there are ups and downs and you cnat treat just the lows without the highs and there can be a lot of highs
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It's actually an antidepressant which means it isn't really for either disorder specifically. BPD doesn't have a medication to treat it since that is a personality disorder, but sometimes antidepressants are used to help with symptoms of depression that can occur. Bipolar patients are also sometimes put on AD's for the same reason, but usually in conjunction with a mood stabilizer as AD's alone can put some bipolar patients into mania.
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It's actually an antidepressant which means it isn't really for either disorder specifically. BPD doesn't have a medication to treat it since that is a personality disorder, but sometimes antidepressants are used to help with symptoms of depression that can occur. Bipolar patients are also sometimes put on AD's for the same reason, but usually in conjunction with a mood stabilizer as AD's alone can put some bipolar patients into mania.
Thank you all for helping me with this situation and not knowing what to do and where to go...great information and advice and encouragement ...what a great site and great people who are concerned helping each other and calling a spade a spade.....my GF has had 12 plus sexual encounters while we have been together and i say to her that i need to know all that has been done and with bwhom...is that wrong for me to know and i dont throw it in her face i give her an opportunity to come clean without consequences and only expect the truth ---am i wrong for asking of this ... cause when i find out ithers that she doesnt tell me about i wanna run like heck and not come back.....HELp what do you think....
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I think you are kind to put up with her cheating, but you aren't required. Even though she has an illness, it doesn't mean you have to accept being hurt like that. If its something that's in the past and you all are working forward, then good for you. Loving her is a good thing, but take care of yourself too.

And its not wrong to want to know, though make sure you are prepared to accept the information she gives you.
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Old Mar 31, 2010, 12:17 PM
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I think you are kind to put up with her cheating, but you aren't required. Even though she has an illness, it doesn't mean you have to accept being hurt like that. If its something that's in the past and you all are working forward, then good for you. Loving her is a good thing, but take care of yourself too.

And its not wrong to want to know, though make sure you are prepared to accept the information she gives you.
Morning , thanks for coming back for the message you sent to me i truly appreciate it .Is it wrong of me to want to know the grusome details ---is it something i should chweck into when i start the counselling next week,,,,The thing that bothers me the most is the deny deny deny deny attitude she has knowing that all i want is the information and what she did...an example is aftrreturning from Maui for 2 weeeks which was great for us ...she came home and looked up an old affair she had with a previous marriage which split them up for a period of time ... i found the name number on an old bill and she denied it over over although she called it contiueous for 6 days in a row....that bothers me more than meeting a guy like she did last month and blowing him in his or her car that i bought for her....
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It sounds a little like you all have issues of your own that should be looked at in the counseling; that she's doing stuff to deliberately have an effect on you and you're wanting to know details that aren't about you and putting up with her behavior, etc. Sounds like you may be feeding into each other's personalities/wishes in an unhealthy way.
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It sounds a little like you all have issues of your own that should be looked at in the counseling; that she's doing stuff to deliberately have an effect on you and you're wanting to know details that aren't about you and putting up with her behavior, etc. Sounds like you may be feeding into each other's personalities/wishes in an unhealthy way.
Thank you .... ye si believe that a little but it didnt start out like that... i was the kind of guy when i started this relationship that would be a one person guy--- then with all the bull **** that happened it kinda hardened me with even the way i lok at sex now - as not makng love but just sex and as she says just f-d a guy instead of makg love which was special to me at one pont now it seems it is just what it is sex....does that make sense ...
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Ya, it makes sense, but its sad. Maybe this isn't the best relationship for you. And perna's right, you really don't need to know the gory details.
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Old Mar 31, 2010, 02:09 PM
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Ya, it makes sense, but its sad. Maybe this isn't the best relationship for you. And perna's right, you really don't need to know the gory details.
Without going over and over with this ..why do you think i stay and why do you think i gotta know it all....it also drives me not knowing what she does behind my back... the more i look at this the more i can see what has to be done and it is because of discussions like this that really do help me and make me stronger i believe and more aware of the situation.... i had another relationship when i was 20 that was very similiar as all my friends told me i was crazy for being with this lady and finally i did see the light --- little slow here on the take i guess .....
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At end of rope, ignoring the bipolar issue, as long as you accept the affairs she can continue without any concern for the loss of your relationship. This is something you need to work on with the therapist.
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At end of rope, ignoring the bipolar issue, as long as you accept the affairs she can continue without any concern for the loss of your relationship. This is something you need to work on with the therapist.
Thank you ... i absolutely agree with you ... it is not making me feel real good about the relationship hearing viewiers telling me i am weak and need to run but it does make me open my eyes as well as smell the coffee as i ahve been avoiding the issue and it needs to be addressed so thank you for pointing that out i really need to follow up with what i am saying here and appearing to be talking tough but i believe this will be resolved soon one way or the other...
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