Tired yet unreasonably HYPER!!! Help

Guys, I'm so friggin tired it's just NOT funny

I've always needed very little sleep, but these days it seems to be spiralling outta control

4 the last 7 years or so, my sleeping patterns have been very predictable, 5 max 6 hours a night Mon-Thur (which I'm sure is normal) and then 10 hours Sat morning. (it's always been easier for me to fall asleep in the early hours of the morning)

And when I'm oddly depressed, all I can do IS sleep, the times when my mind is racing about how useless and worthless I "am" at the time,and I can't sleep, I take a few sleeping tablets to block out the thoughts...(please don't ask "how many is a few?" Prescribed dosages have never been sufficient 4 me, when I was 12 the Dr was so shocked because he had to inject my EARLOBE 4 times with local anesthetic, when I got a tooth extraction, I needed 3 injections and when I was in labour, I needed double the prescribed dose of pethadine,despite my tiny frame. But I know I've had a problem with pain killers and sleeping pills in the past, so 4 the last 3 years I've been trying to avoid medication. (but when absolutlely neccessary,try my best to stick to the prescribed dosage, praying it will be effective)

These days I fall asleep around 2am, and get up for work at 5am, and Saturday morning sleep is basically out the window...
(I don't wake up tired)

I try not to take the sleeping pills during the week as it takes too long to kick in, and I end up missing my alarm!!!

Right now I literally can't sit still, I'm singing at the top of my voice, and dancing (at work yes...here's minimal staff tight now) but at the same time I can feel my body just wants to go into a coma, it's so CONFUSING!!!
and a tiny bit scary, 2 months ago I literally passed out from exhaustion 3 nights in a row. (I'm not sure how long these 3hr nights were going on before that happened)

How can I be hyper and dog tired all at once, I've been wondering about this for a long time, but never had anyone I could ask this question 2 before... (I've always just thought of it, as me being in over-drive)

Please take into context that I've not been dxd with ANYTHING (appt coming up to clarify my behaviour tho...)

I'm sorry for rambling on and on about something as petty as being tired AND hyper, but as ecstatic as I feel, I'm also irritable, cos I jis wan2 SLEEP!!!! and now I'm rambling for no good reason...

How did I forget to sleep? Is this okay? Not even sure what I think I'm supposed to get out of this post, not suprising as I can't seem to hold 1 specific thought all the way through...
NB. On the verge of tears all day, even tho I'm happy, my 1st reaction is to CRY!!!... why do I get like this, IT'S CONFUSING, maybe I'm just really really tired...
sorry again..

Off the top of my head (And I'm far from an expert on the matter) it sounds a lot like the kind of mania I'm experiencing. I bounce off the walls, listen to really loud music and talk really fast. I start 5 things at once, and get none done. When I get home I'm exhausted from this busy day (Physically and mentally), yet I cannot just crash on the couch. When I'm depressed, I can put my head anywhere at any time of the day and within minnutes I'm out cold (I even use my lunch break to catch a 45min sleep in my car!)

I think your body is exhausted, as is your brain from the mania, but the rushing thoughts cannot let you actually go to sleep to recharge your batteries. When you do sleep, check you aren't spending too much time in REM sleep (Typical of depression) which is characterised by lots of dreaming, but doesn't allow your brain to relax, and mentally you may as well have been awake.
I know you are staying away from meds at the moment, but how about taking sleeping tabs early one evening (Like 7PM) and really getting a proper night's sleep. Otherwise you will head towards burn-out. And when you finally get to go to your pdoc appointment and can discuss this with him, he can put you a maintenance med combo. Be sure to tell him about your current necessary dosages though

I took 2 sleeping pills (rec dosage) at 7pm once straight after work...I only fell asleep after 10pm and was wide awake by 2am

I'm so irritable I'm not even as ecstatic as I was feeling all week, and even this morning. Still can't relax,nap or even do NOTHING, and feel tired and agitated...

I just want to go home to my bed, but I know once I walk through that door,I'll be wide awake physically as well as mentally...
About the REM, that used to happen quite often, but now, I can't remember when last my sleep felt interrupted. There's no freaky disturbingly real dreams, there's actually no recollection of ANY dreaming...which is strange, because I've nearly always been able to remember and vividly describe my dreams... ( I'm not sure if this no dreaming is a good/bad thing) Even on 3 hours nights, I wake up disturbingly refreshed...it's during the day I feel lousy.

I can't believe you ACTUALLY UNDERSTAND what I'm ranting about that's a definite 1st for me, I wasn't even sure why I posted that thread (like what was I hoping to gain?) but I'm sure glad I did It's comforting to know I've been wrong my entire life!!! I'm not trapped in a bubble!!!

Thanks Suga, once again you've managed to make me feel better about my eccentricities

No prob; I'm just being honest. The problem with most sleeping tabs are that they do exactly that - they knock you proper initially, but only last a very short while. I was on Dormicum as well as the equivalent of Rohipnol, which would knock me out but come 3AM I'd be wide awake.
I discussed this issue with my pdoc, and she said she recommends Zopimed (Zopiclone) as it acctually knocks you out for a more reasonable amount of time. I also felt the other sleeping tabs were giving me terrible nightmares. Try get some Zopimed prescribed.

Definitely sounds like a manic episode to me...I would recommend you print out your post to take with you when you go for your evaluation with the doctor.

Although my sleep meds work fairly well, if I take them too early (before 11:00pm), they do very little or nothing for me unless I haven't slept well for several days. I have always been a night person and that is when I have the most energy. I find it much easier to sleep during the day, which I try to avoid beyond a 1 -2 hour nap if absolutely necessary. I have a diagnosis of Primary Insomnia along with the bipolar and other dx's. My mom says that even as an infant I would just sit in my crib all night and cry, and then finally fall asleep at dawn. IDK, maybe I have vampire blood in my veins LOL...

Is your evaluation with the doc soon? I hope it goes well!

Yeah, when is your appointment?
I suffer from hypersomnia, so I really battle when I cannot get to sleep for some reason or another

Hey Ladies, thanks for the input and insight.
My appointment is for next Friday... still quite anxious about it, but I'll cross that bridge when I get there, no use working myself into a frenzy for 2 weeks...

Because I find it easier to sleep in the morning, I came into work late today to give myself a chance to rest...
My mom gave me some herbal calming tablets that she has been using since my dad passed on...I don't think it helped me to fall asleep, but the quality of sleep was much better. I think I got an extra 2 hours, cause 5 is quite sufficient for me.

I'm still happy,hyper, fidgety, basically bouncing off the walls...which I don't mind, this feels more like me than I've felt in the last few weeks.But I've been a bit reckless... Friday, I just left work early, knowing I could get into serious trouble, but not caring at all. I was bored, and hyper, and needed to get out of here, so I just took my stuff and left. Lucky for me, my friend got a promo and is now my supervisor, but he had every right to discipline me for insubordination and job abandonment...he didn't...

I've spent my paycheck already, flat broke till next week thursday, you'd think I'd learn after so long. But somehow my ideas, and spending are justified at the time. And it's not so much that I regret the decisions I make when I'm so elated, I just wish I'd be less impulsive...

but I like me like this, this is the me I know and love, but the no sleeping is escalating, that's my only concern...

Thanks for the tip, I will definately take it with me. I'm so scared I'm going to forget something, or he's going to dismiss me like everyone else (outside of PC) that I'm religiously writing in my journal, about everything, even the cuts on my arms, and I've also been keeping a mood tracker that I found here on PC (the stats are a bit worrying right now, but I feel great so I'm not really paying attention to it)

Anyway, ladies, I'm rambling again, so sorry, but I'm sure you understand when I say I honestly cannot help myself...
Thanks so much for your support, I love u guys!!!

Trippin - be sure to tell the pdoc what herbal meds you are on, as most herbal meds, especially St John's Wort, conflict with psych meds.
Glad you could sleep better though!

Maybe speak to your boss or your friend if they cannot take a portion of you salary and pay it into a 32-day call account or similar. Or ask someone else you trust to help you monitor and manage your money. I also tend to spend money on unnecessary things, luckily I don't spend huge amounts, cos I can be a bit of a control freak like that.

And I too have run away from work early before. Luckily I don't really have a supervisor and my manager is quite senior, so he has more important things to worry about than managing timetables of staff.

The pills she gave me are called Rescue, I just called my mom to check and she says, there's no St John's wort in the composition...
I have this insane hangup about being independent, especially financially...but my younger brother is very responsible, intelligent AND strict. So maybe I can speak to him about helping to control my bank balance... thanks for the tip!

I still can't sit still, people are looking at me weird at work, but they so relieved "I'm back" they're not complaining...

the other thing is... I can't stop SMOKING!! not that I want to quit, but I don't usually smoke alot, but I've noticed that when my moods are somewhat extreme, I smoke like a friggin chimney. Normally too many cigarettes make me feel sick, now it's like I need them to calm down, to stop the shaking in my legs and hands...

I'm rambling again aren't I?
I'm sorry I NEED TO TALK...ALOT!!!!

I feel i need to talk, but more to try make sense of what's going on in my head. It sounds like a complete mess and ramble up there.
I think Rescue may be OK, but just be sure to run it past your pdoc next week. I actually also have a bottle of that stuff - it's 30% or so alcohol if you take the drops - hehe.

I am feeling like i want to give up smoking at the moment - the quantitiy of smokes at work has definitely decreased; about 3

I'm sure it's not a complete mess, and even if it is...I'm pretty good at deciphering mess so ur welcome to ramble away at me, REALLY welcome, like REALLY. Cause I also need to ramble, cos there are too many things going on in my head at once, singing is helping a little, but I have to tone it down now...I just wanna DO SOMETHING!! that make sense? I'm not sure if I make much sense right now...