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Old Jul 18, 2012, 10:43 AM
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My 10- and 12-year-olds found a study on anxiety in kids. We called and it seemed they could be controls as they have no history with psych issues. So the lady calls today and says since I'm bipolar they can't be in the study! They will be disappointed as they were getting paid. Stupid bipolar.
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Old Jul 18, 2012, 10:48 AM
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Sorry to hear that. I wonder what their reason for that was.
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Old Jul 18, 2012, 10:51 AM
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I don't know. They must figure my kids are bipolar too?
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Old Jul 18, 2012, 10:56 AM
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BS! Moose, please give that lady a call and find out on what grounds they were rejected. Please.
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Old Jul 18, 2012, 11:16 AM
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Those were the grounds: their mom is bipolar.
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Old Jul 18, 2012, 11:17 AM
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We have clinical research at my work and it is very, very, very strict. The things that can get you rejected from studies can be from the tiniest details. I'm guessing that family history of BP is a disqualifying factor, but that's not your fault. I don't know how they determine criteria for studies, but sometimes you think it's just a bunch of monkies in a room spinning a "wheel of disqualifiers."

For example, we send people for the insulin studies and it's amazing what disqualifies them. Your diabetes control has to be exactly this bad, not better or worse, and you've had to have been diagnosed exactly this many years ago. If you ever took this medication in your life, then you're out. If you have heart problems or don't have heart problems, or you only have this heart problem but not that one... etc. etc. etc... >.> It's annoying sometimes.
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Old Jul 18, 2012, 11:41 AM
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I didnt think about that. A family history of mental illness may be the buzz word for the study.
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Old Jul 18, 2012, 11:45 AM
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Well that sucks
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Old Jul 18, 2012, 12:06 PM
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To be a control, you can't be affected by anxiety or have any health issues or family history of mental health in any way. Controls have to be average without any influences at all.

It's just money, don't beat yourself up about something that is not at all important.
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Old Jul 18, 2012, 01:23 PM
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It does stink, their being rejected, but it does make sense in a way. A parent with bipolar can cause a lot of stress in a kid, well, a parent with any MI. An episode on the parent's part will cause anxiety (admitted by the child or not) for the kids. It's a natural response to worry or get mad. And this would show up on the child's part in the study.
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Old Jul 18, 2012, 03:05 PM
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Call back and say you meant to say you're bisexual, not bipolar (please laugh?)
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Old Jul 18, 2012, 03:57 PM
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Call back and say you meant to say you're bisexual, not bipolar (please laugh?)
Haha. Yes. Well. Hmm. Er. Yeah.
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Old Jul 18, 2012, 04:02 PM
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@ BlueInAnna! Good 1. Yeah Moose, say you didn't even realize you said/wrote bipolar!
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Old Jul 18, 2012, 04:15 PM
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Ooh. That reminds me: We should have a reunion of this board. :-p
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Old Jul 18, 2012, 04:28 PM
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Reunion? Care to clue me in? I'm ever the curious 1...
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Old Jul 18, 2012, 04:35 PM
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Or a union. lol I was thinking yesterday that it would be cool to meet. Just need name tags with your avatar and alias. We're all over the place though- even just a US one would be difficult but you're in Cape Town, others are in the UK.....
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Old Jul 18, 2012, 04:47 PM
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Haha, that would be SO awesome! I can just picture it now. That would probly be thee most fun AND profound experience of my entire existance, never to be out done!
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Old Jul 18, 2012, 05:01 PM
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Haha, that would be SO awesome! I can just picture it now. That would probly be thee most fun AND profound experience of my entire existance, never to be out done!
Yes. We could all just annoy each other. "Gee. I didn't know I was this irking to people". lol We'd have to have a rule for showing up: Have taken your meds!
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Old Jul 18, 2012, 05:10 PM
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Haha, no fair! Some of us aren't on any. How bout: no alcohol in your bloodstream! That should help keep us 'appropriate'. Ooh! o0h! we MUST have a jumping castle, so the bouncy ones have a fun outlet!
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Old Jul 18, 2012, 05:13 PM
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Well ok. IF you TAKE meds, please don't stop suddenly a month or less before.

Yes no alcohol. Coffee optional. Yes a bouncy castle sounds great! Oh and uh- no hitting on each other. (Hehe.)
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Old Jul 18, 2012, 05:22 PM
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I actually understand this one and would probably do the same in their position. Having a bipolar mother could end up being an extra stressor, which an average child does not experience. This would easily rule them out as part the control group for an anxiety study. They have to do everything they can to make sure that their results are accurate, because serious decisions about treating child anxiety could be made based on these results.
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Old Jul 18, 2012, 05:41 PM
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I actually understand this one and would probably do the same in their position. Having a bipolar mother could end up being an extra stressor, which an average child does not experience. This would easily rule them out as part the control group for an anxiety study. They have to do everything they can to make sure that their results are accurate, because serious decisions about treating child anxiety could be made based on these results.
Then the moment the woman on the phone said "You're bipolar?" She should've said "You're disqualified from the study." That's nicer than a week later after we've fillout 100 forms each.
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Old Jul 18, 2012, 08:11 PM
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What about ruling out any kids who have a BP teacher at school? They may be spending 8 hours a day with someone BP and never know it, many of us hide our symptoms very well, or have it under control ... just sayin'... They're not really going to ever have a perfect control group, imho. And yea they should've let you know right away, and not waste your time - i think that's horrible. And disappointing... a chance to practice resiliency to ******** though I suppose.
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Old Jul 18, 2012, 08:20 PM
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What about ruling out any kids who have a BP teacher at school? They may be spending 8 hours a day with someone BP and never know it, many of us hide our symptoms very well, or have it under control ... just sayin'... They're not really going to ever have a perfect control group, imho. And yea they should've let you know right away, and not waste your time - i think that's horrible. And disappointing... a chance to practice resiliency to ******** though I suppose.
Its telling the kids. The younger one didn't seem phased by it. And I told him I have bipolar. Not really what that is, but... and he said "Oh. You're bipolar? I didn't know that." The older one is off at camp still.
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Old Jul 18, 2012, 08:27 PM
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I see... My 10 year old doesn't know about mine... wait let me ask him. Ok, now he knows. I just had the talk with him, explained what it is, reminded him about what is personal family business. He's not phased either. A 12 year old might have more of a reaction or concern.
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