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Old Nov 09, 2012, 10:43 PM
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I think they go hand in hand? Are these signs of anxiety? I went to the theater and about twenty min into the movie I felt like I couldn't breath. I felt nauseas and shaky so I had to leave and go lay down in the back of the truck. The theater was packed too. Took a while but I calmed down just a little. The anxiety always comes somewhere between 4 and 7. The only place I feel safe and can calm down is in my own bed.

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Old Nov 09, 2012, 10:56 PM
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You state they most often happen between 4-7 ???.. Are you on a medications? If so maybe you are just hitting a gap around that time maybe due to a medication dropping out of your system? Just a thought .

Sorry you are dealing with anxiety.

I'm sure others will come along and have more advice that me.
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Old Nov 09, 2012, 11:29 PM
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I don't have anxiety with my BP, nor have I ever read that it's part of the disorder.

I bet you're experiencing a side-effect from your meds as a lot of them have anxiety as a side-effect. Google '[name of med], side-effects, anxiety' and see what you come up with.
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Old Nov 10, 2012, 12:00 AM
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That happened to me during the Amazing Spiderman. Not kidding. That is anxiety. A panic attack and you should discuss it with your doc asap. It happens to me pretty regularly
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Old Nov 10, 2012, 08:59 AM
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The fact that there is a very specific time frame when you have this issue, between 4-7, would make it seem likely to me that there is probably some underlying reason other than a general anxiety or panic disorder. It may not be totally obvious, but if there is a time frame, it would be worth keeping a diary of your daily activity so that it can be analyzed. It may be something environmental or something you consume hours earlier contributes. Perhaps you have been in a standing position for a long time and then go to a sitting position or vice versa and you have some sort of circulatory system/cardiovascular change going on. Perhaps your blood sugar has dropped and you need to eat. As Christina said, perhaps that's when a medication is wearing off. Perhaps a million different things... It would be very hard to sit here and guess. The answer may not be totally obvious even to you.

Now that is not to say that one cannot have bipolar and anxiety/panic attacks. I have Bipolar, PTSD, OCD traits, and Panic Attacks without agoraphobia. Some people have complicated histories and have multiple things going on. I'm not saying it is impossible to have both. If you feel like you are experience anxiety attacks, go talk to your doctor. They have a set of questions they can give you to help decide if it is a situation that they can diagnose you with and treat.

But because you seem to have such a narrow time frame or repetitive time frame where you are experience these symptoms, do consider keeping a diary to help you and your doctor see if you can figure out a cause. The good news with that is that if you can determine a cause, you can usually just make an adjustment and things will improve. At the end of the day that's what you want- to figure out whatever it's going to take to make you feel better. <3
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Old Nov 10, 2012, 09:06 AM
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I have heard that BP and anxiety don't always go hand in hand, but it is common. I don't have symptoms like you're experiencing, but I have panic issues and I have intense social anxiety. I would look into side effects like everyone else is suggesting but I would also talk to your doc about anxiety as well. Anxiety is terrible and if it can be treated it should. Benzos don't work for me and I'm trying to cope without meds for anxiety. It's tough.

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Old Nov 10, 2012, 09:12 AM
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I had something similar happen to me around 4pm too, but I think it was a gap in my medication too like everyone else may have suggested. I usually dont get panic attacks or anxiety but yesterday I experienced it. I dont know what that was about, but I did feel much better when I was home in my bed.
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Old Nov 10, 2012, 09:49 AM
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Anxiety is a symptom of BP. All moodtracking applications include a question about anxiety.
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Old Nov 10, 2012, 06:52 PM
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Anxiety is a symptom of BP. All moodtracking applications include a question about anxiety.
So are medication dosages, and those aren't a symptom.
But yeah, Moodmuse, it is not unusual to have anxiety along with BP. I really like Piper's answer and agree that such a consistent and narrow time frame is very likely key in figuring out what is going on. Good luck!
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Old Nov 10, 2012, 07:02 PM
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So are medication dosages, and those aren't a symptom.
No, Optimism and Moodtracking.com just ask you whether you have taken your meds, without dosages. It would be too cumbersome to enter dosages daily, no?
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No, Optimism and Moodtracking.com just ask you whether you have taken your meds, without dosages. It would be too cumbersome to enter dosages daily, no?
I dunno. I do on mine. Let's me see what happens when meds are tweaked. Which is a pretty important thing. Charting a day (though I've never actually timed it, lol) probably takes me 30 seconds tops. Probably more like 15 seconds most days.

(I designed my own chart --typical, lol!-- from looking at other systems and using the factors most relevant to my situation. For instance, some systems have a place to enter weight. As my answer would always be, "just barely enough", there's no point in including it. But for others, this might be useful -- med side effects or whatever.) Basically, mine includes:

Mood rating for the day (quick dot on graph)
Hours of sleep
Sleep issues if there were any -- can't get up, couldn't fall asleep, whatever (simply represented by a quick swipe of different colors of highlighter, I don't write it out.)
Work (if there was, with just an "x" with d/s/g to indicate which shift, as I've worked all of them)
Anxiety level,
Irritability level
(On anxiety and irritability, it's just a quick dot indicating low, medium or high. There is a small space if I want to make a quick note about it, like "got lost" or "public meltdown".)
Dosages taken for all my meds. Let's me know when I missed or adjusted. Most of the time, it's consistent, so it's as fast as simply writing "300" or whatever.
# of drinks if any.
Then I have a little space if I want to write a thing or two to jog my memory of which day it was(!) "Big clean" "concert" etc

With mostly dots and color, it's really easy to see trends. Dots topping out in the irritability? Problem. Is there a lot of blue (can't get up) in the sleep issues zone? Guess who's depressed? Or going there. Lots of green (can't fall asleep)? Someone's either going hypo or has conflict issues she's not dealing with.

This is probably way more than you wanted to know, lol!
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Old Nov 11, 2012, 11:49 AM
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Do you use Excel or Google Spreadsheets or other cloud-based spreadsheets?
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Old Nov 11, 2012, 04:43 PM
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Do you use Excel or Google Spreadsheets or other cloud-based spreadsheets?
Nope. Good 'ol paper and pencil. On a clipboard beside my bed, so I just run through it at the end of the day. Though I do usually do the hours of sleep/sleep issues at the beginning of the day. Those are the ones I'm worst at keeping track of.

(The sheets cover one month. I do not draw those out by hand each month(! haha), but run months of copies at the library to fill in.)
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