DONE. So long alchemical bullcrap.

comicgeek007 · May 17, 2013, 08:23 PM

Tired of dulling my body and my mind with chemicals that can't even do their job. THEY'VE GOT ONE ****ING JOB TO DO! So I'm just not gonna take them anymore. That's that.

Why alchemy, you ask? It's the fake science of turning lead into gold. Do you wanna know how fake and golden my success with this bullcrap science has been?

~Christina · May 17, 2013, 09:03 PM

I am neither pro meds or against meds. I am for people finding what helps them to enjoy life. Regardless of what you decide to do... just make sure you have a support group in place to help you.

Good Luck

Confusedinomicon · May 17, 2013, 09:46 PM

Do you actually take them long enough to see the full results?

You either have to stay consistent on them or not take them. If you are on/off them your brain will experience some kind of withdrawal. Honestly, I would stay on medication and learn about holistic living/learn how to deal with emotions constructively. A lot of meds can buffer the emotions and a good therapist is crucial.

It took me a few years to learn how to deal with my emotions and I've gotten to the point of minimum medication.

If you plan on staying off medication, anyway, find support here and check out the Icarus project. There are plenty members who have learned excellent coping mechanisms to deal with the disorder. Also acknowledge that it will take time. I've been here forever and know that many members have evolved and become more confident in themselves and their conditions. Christina is a good example of someone who has shown a lot of resilience.

Darth Bane · May 18, 2013, 03:31 AM

it wont be easy. you will need to have lot of patience and self control, and this withdrawal will be difficult too. you will need to eat only healthy food- no nicotine,alcohol,caffeine,milk chocolate,drugs(i am avoiding all these things for a year now)

and in your case you will continue to have episode unless you do something about your sleeping schedule. you will need to have 8 hours sleep from lets say 10 p.m. to 6 a.m. and i know how difficult it is (everyday i sleep at 6 a.m. for more than week now

) if you cant do all this better give up and start taking meds...

but i am wondering does your opinion matter that much ? i thought your dad's opinion was more important than yours

May 18, 2013, 04:47 AM

Don't quit cold turkey. I'm sure you know that.

I'm sorry the meds are not working for you!

comicgeek007 · May 18, 2013, 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Darth Bane

it wont be easy. you will need to have lot of patience and self control, and this withdrawal will be difficult too. you will need to eat only healthy food- no nicotine,alcohol,caffeine,milk chocolate,drugs(i am avoiding all these things for a year now)

and in your case you will continue to have episode unless you do something about your sleeping schedule. you will need to have 8 hours sleep from lets say 10 p.m. to 6 a.m. and i know how difficult it is (everyday i sleep at 6 a.m. for more than week now

) if you cant do all this better give up and start taking meds...

but i am wondering does your opinion matter that much ? i thought your dad's opinion was more important than yours

I typically only eat healthy anyway, my sister had the last of my coconut creamer, and I can easily avoid the rest.

My sleeping is much better than it has been, though I always wake up at some ungodly hour for a while before falling back asleep. Though I still manage 8 hours now.

I promised my boyfriend I'd tell my dad, but what is my dad gonna do about it, really?

Darth Bane · May 18, 2013, 07:48 AM

i think it will be great if you succeed without meds... meds have too many side effects and not to mention their effect on cognitive functions...

comicgeek007 · May 18, 2013, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Darth Bane

i think it will be great if you succeed without meds... meds have too many side effects and not to mention their effect on cognitive functions...

I feel okay right now. I'm not on that high of doses anyway and ssri withdrawal cause severe symptoms in only 5% of patients, so I think I'm probably in the clear as long as I watch it.

Trippin2.0 · May 18, 2013, 10:46 AM

While I can testify to withdrawls sucking WetRabidDogAss, its the adjustment period thats the REAL hell... After withdrawls, I suffered from ultradian cycling for 3 months. It was gawdawful, frustrating and tiring as hell, but so very much worth it in the end. People don't warn you about it because IMO its the adjustment period that has most of us on our knees back in the pdocs office. We think "omg I made it worse, I cant survive without meds, blah blah blah"... So not many know / speak of this adjustment period.

Yes it was a horrid time while my brain was trying to make sense of things minus its drugs, but I'm glad I stuck it out because I'm less symptomatic now...

I can't tell you what to do, nor do I wish to, I do however urge that you choose whats right for YOU, quality of life is the aim for all of us, and we each have to forge our own path there. Best of luck

comicgeek007 · May 18, 2013, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Trippin2.0

While I can testify to withdrawls sucking WetRabidDogAss, its the adjustment period thats the REAL hell... After withdrawls, I suffered from ultradian cycling for 3 months. It was gawdawful, frustrating and tiring as hell, but so very much worth it in the end. People don't warn you about it because IMO its the adjustment period that has most of us on our knees back in the pdocs office. We think "omg I made it worse, I cant survive without meds, blah blah blah"... So not many know / speak of this adjustment period.

Yes it was a horrid time while my brain was trying to make sense of things minus its drugs, but I'm glad I stuck it out because I'm less symptomatic now...

I can't tell you what to do, nor do I wish to, I do however urge that you choose whats right for YOU, quality of life is the aim for all of us, and we each have to forge our own path there. Best of luck

Haha your descriptions are always so colorful

How long is withdrawal supposed to last, anyway? I have a headache, but that's probably from caffeine withdrawal...

I'm positive that at the very least my zoloft made me worse, so I'm trying to see if I can get back to where the cycles were much fewer and farther between - and not usually so intense. Then if I decide meds are what I need, I'm just not going back on what I was just on.

Besides, no matter what I do, I can't continue this on off thing from forgetting.

Trippin2.0 · 12:34 PM

I was on prozac and risperdal for 2 yrs, the lithium was relatively new, bout 6 months (switched over from tegratol)... The worst (sweating, hallucinations, agitation, skin crawling

etc) was over after about 2 weeks, they lasted a bit longer but were easier to contend with.

Nobody can say for sure how long withdrawls last, metabolism, med half life and length of time you took them are some factors that come into play. After 6 weeks I saw my gp who did some bloodwork and general check-up and he assured me that there was no more psycho active drugs in my bloodstream, this is why I don't understand how some say they went through months of withdrawls

Like, are your kidneys broken or something man???

venusss · May 18, 2013, 12:16 PM

look up at Icarus project website for advice with withdrawals.

Darth Bane · May 18, 2013, 12:40 PM

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hallucinations, agitation, skin crawling

we are so unlucky sometimes, we are not using meth,heroin,cocaine... its just bipolar and still we have to go through these same withdrawals symptoms....

when i took ssri, it pushed me into mania for 3-4 months until i myself decided no more meds.... then came depression,lows for at least 2 months, of which first few weeks were rough,it was worse sui ideation ever for me...

i was always moody, when i was 16 i had first manic episode, i ignored it thinking its just normal teenage thing, rebellious phase, who knew i was more hypersexual than even normal teenage boys,

i actually thought everyone was hypersexual like me, i believed it till i got diagnosed with bipolar few months ago, until age 26...

so i was manic for about 1 year when i was 16, next whole year i was depressed, i didn't know what was wrong with me so i decided to hide my personality, i decided to build emotional walls against my mood wings so even if i was manic or depressed my outward personality will be same, i decided to have less friends, concentrated on my studies and graduated with honors...... well those emotional walls and all my mental defenses shattered when i faced my next full blown mania at age 23, finally i went to pdoc, she thought it as just major depression and prescribed ssri, luckily i discontinued them myself, didn't give much chance to her to experiment with me, i believed it will all go away just as it happened with my first manic episode, and i was not wrong

Trippin2.0 · May 18, 2013, 12:46 PM

I definitly developed a new respect for heroin addicts who clean themselves up after my withdrawls!

comicgeek007 · May 18, 2013, 12:52 PM

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I definitly developed a new respect for heroin addicts who clean themselves up after my withdrawls!

LOL!

Okay, so I talked to my dad about it (over text msg while he was in the net room...) and he wanted me to take them until monday so I can go to whatever doctor will tell me how to get off them safely. I can live with that compromise fro a few days.