[Victoria'smom]

Which state puts you in more danger of yourself. I'm assuming mixed for everyone is the most dangerous so I'm not including that. If you don't mind you can elaborate in your post.

Mine is definitely mania because I skip the hypo-mania side and go right into psychosis but as I come down I get hypo-manic.

[venusss]

for me it's the times when I feel nothing at all, as if I were already dead. Will take risks to feel... something.

[Nessa213]

That's a damn good question.

I think they're both equally dangerous in entirely different ways.

I'm a danger to my general health and well being in a depressed state. Like a physical danger. A lot of drinking, taking too many pain meds... things like that.

But I'm a danger to my long term (financial primarily) well being in a manic state.

It's hard to say. I guess it depends on the definition of "dangerous". I would actually say both. Truthfully.

[faerie_moon_x]

Definately mania for me since I'm dysphoric. Those obsessive racing thoughts get very dark very quickly, and I become must more explosive, irrational, and impulsive. Whenever I have an SI issue, (which is reactionary for me, not planned,) it's always during an explosive dysphoric episode.

[Trippin2.0]

I voted other, because while it does fall under the depression spectrum, anhedonia is definitly thee single most dangerous thing I've experienced. No feeling, no joy, pain, sadness, regret or anger. Just pure logic, and being depressed that specific logic means death is the obvious solution to whatever the situation may be.

Yes I agree with Venus, feeling nothing is most dangerous.

[Nessa213]

Originally Posted by Trippin2.0

I voted other, because while it does fall under the depression spectrum, anhedonia is definitly thee single most dangerous thing I've experienced. No feeling, no joy, pain, sadness, regret or anger. Just pure logic, and being depressed that specific logic means death is the obvious solution to whatever the situation may be.

Yes I agree with Venus, feeling nothing is most dangerous.

This is a good point. Death is not only obvious, it's logical. Nothing matters anymore. Things must end eventually anyway, and sometimes the only thing you're doing is messing everything up. So, **** it, why bother?

[faerie_moon_x]

For me, if I don't care, I don't even consider death. I just kind of go around inside this bubble of nothingness. Everything becomes flat, and I think I dissociate or something because it doesn't even occure that I'm alive or dead, so there's nothing to think about. It's more like I'm not even real at all, more like an autopilot. I actually prefer to be that way, it makes things easier since otherwise my emotions are so extreme.

[middlepath]

I am wreckless when Manic/hypo. I have done very stupid things just because i feel invincible and like nothing bad will happen (one small example: sitting on the edge of a dirt cliff to eat lunch just because it was pretty, despite warnings from the other hikers that it was unstable). I have done wwwway tooooo many stupid things and am shocked to be alive frankly. Depression isn't more of a threat because death always makes sense to me, not just in depression. I don't want to die by any means but the contemplation of life always stirs about my noggen so depression just exaggerates the circumstances i am in and the frequency of contemplation but not the depth of the thoughts. I just re-read that and don't know if that makes any sense at all, but that is the best way I can put it.

[ilanagrey]

When I am manic I'm more likely to hurt myself (SI and other destructive behavior like destroying friendships), but when I'm depressed I want to die. Not sure which is worse.

[~Christina]

I choose "other"

My worse time is when I go quite and turn everything inward, No, its not depression .. It's a case of I feel nothing, depression would be an improvement. I can go from safe to "plan are made and letters are written " with in hours. loads of self harm.

It's hard to really explain my most dangerous times.

[moremi]

I'm with venus def when I feel nothing. I'm dealing w that now.

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[A Red Panda]

I'm most dangerous to myself when I'm depressed or mixed. When I get to the stage where I'm not talking at all about how I feel about anything... that's when I'm thinking my worst thoughts. It means that I'm either wanting to spare other people from any sort of guilty feelings... or just don't want to get caught.

It's then especially dangerous if I decided it's the right idea to go and get really drunk, because then I'll get a lot more bold and make riskier choices.

[BipolaRNurse]

I feel most at risk when I'm depressed. My family would disagree, however, because when I'm manic I take ridiculously foolish risks with my life, my finances, my job, and my general well-being. They're probably right.

Mine is hypomania. My depressions are really bad and I always get suicidal, but I think with my bf here that will be alright. At any rate that's not something I consider dangerous to me, that's dangerous to other people who care. However, I've noticed that when I am in hypomania for too long (typically just a few days) I lose a little touch with reality and become someone else. I get paranoid, obsess about religion and get a lot of weird ideas and "epiphanies" (not sure what to call them), I push people away, binge on drugs, make conflicts, etc. What worries me is that this is changing who I am also when I'm not in hypomania.

Depression was horrible but then I got used to it.

[EBD8]

I never really understood mixed states until the last 3-4 years. I would go into a deep depression for months and still not be able to sleep for more that 4-5 hours at a time and some nights even less. This has caused me more confusion than anything I have ever had to deal with being BP because it seems like their is no way out. But I'm still trying to learn after 20 years.

[sprik]

I always thought it was depression, but I just experience my first numb nothing feeling and in away I thought it was a great feeling, but u felt nothing, no pain, nothing borther you, u were just there, u no longier cared, my brain was completely empty. I really did not care what I did to myself, I had no feeling about it one way or another. Scary when I think about it now

[suchalargepillcase]

For me definitely mania. I'm so reckless and impulsive I can get into ugly situations. Hell, my manic driving alone increases my risk of dying tenfold! And I'm just more apt to try bad, stupid things. When I'm depressed I pretty much just don't leave my bed. Even if I'm suicidal I don't have the energy or motivation to get out of bed to get something to kill myself with!

[Ryuguu_Rena]

Wow, it's really hard to say...To myself depression is probably the most harmful, I sleep all the time, can't get anything done, don't want to even bother rolling out of bed...and the manic feelings that often arise out of nowhere sometimes feel really good. I get things done, even if I don't sleep well for 3-4 days ;;;...But, sometimes I get very angry and hostile. Since I don't want to turn it on my girlfriend and her family, I turn it in on myself. So, that's pretty self-damning as well I suppose..

[sugahorse1]

For me it's depression. I only see darkness and want out

[Desafinado]

I suspect that this is highly dependent on the person involved and the circumstances that they're in. If someone is manic and has a very low IQ, they are more likely to do silly and hurtful things, but on the other hand if they have a higher IQ and control over their cognitions, mania might not be so bad as the person is less likely to make the same unwise decisions.

On the other hand, during depression the opposite may be true: the person with a higher IQ might feel a deeper sense of despair, while the person with a lower IQ just can't keep their mind off of whatever immediate problem is facing them.

Neither of these suggestions are strict rules, every person is unique, and every situation is unique.

[~Christina]

Originally Posted by Desafinado

I suspect that this is highly dependent on the person involved and the circumstances that they're in. If someone is manic and has a very low IQ, they are more likely to do silly and hurtful things, but on the other hand if they have a higher IQ and control over their cognitions, mania might not be so bad as the person is less likely to make the same unwise decisions.

On the other hand, during depression the opposite may be true: the person with a higher IQ might feel a deeper sense of despair, while the person with a lower IQ just can't keep their mind off of whatever immediate problem is facing them.

Neither of these suggestions are strict rules, every person is unique, and every situation is unique.

I have to politely disagree with this idea.

I am having a hard time wrapping my head around the idea that high or low IQ's work the way you posted when dealing with episodes from Bipolar.

Having a high IQ doesn't mean while manic decisions will be better , Nor does having a low IQ mean you will make poor decisions..

Your theory on depression and IQ's and who will respond how ??? Are you serious?

That whole thought process seems pretty insulting. But of course this is just my opinion

[Desafinado]

Originally Posted by ~Christina

I have to politely disagree with this idea.

I am having a hard time wrapping my head around the idea that high or low IQ's work the way you posted when dealing with episodes from Bipolar.

Having a high IQ doesn't mean while manic decisions will be better , Nor does having a low IQ mean you will make poor decisions..

Your theory on depression and IQ's and who will respond how ??? Are you serious?

That whole thought process seems pretty insulting. But of course this is just my opinion

You're right. It would be more politically correct to say that the more self-control someone has, the less likely they are to get themselves into dangerous situations. The same hypo-manic or depressive episode affects people differently.

[~Christina]

I guess you are always in control of your moods. I'm happy for you

[Desafinado]

Originally Posted by ~Christina

I guess you are always in control of your moods. I'm happy for you

Not always, but thanks .

I think that with any disorder people grow and learn after the diagnosis. When I was first diagnosed I was very out of control not because I wasn't smart enough to handle it, but because I didn't know how to. That seems to be the case for most people.

[~Christina]

Hey MM Sorry I derailed your thread a bit