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Old Dec 20, 2014, 08:17 PM
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So he lied again about school. This time to his aunt I don't know where to take this. Lying is the most disrespectful thing someone can do and he keeps doing it. He's not taking responsibility for re-taking 3 classes because of a less then nice email to the teacher. We're just mean for making him repeat classes. It's the natural consequence of telling a superior off. I don't get it. He seems just not to get it. How do I "beat" respect into him when I can't tell the difference between symptom and when's it's him "testing" us?
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Old Dec 21, 2014, 09:52 AM
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The lower Zyprexa didn't work. Back to the 7.5 milligrams
any non-dietary changes or ideas would be helpful. I'd be okay but I'm eating close to human amount and I am gaining a pound a week. I like it at the lower dose. I'm going to see if the flatness was my mood or the pills maybe 1/4 in the morning and 1/4 at night.
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Old Dec 21, 2014, 07:45 PM
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Im sorry I cant help with parenting advice. Sounds like you are on the right track though - consequences for bad actions. How old is he? Hopefully he will learn that every bad action has a consequence and it is easier to live life by the rules.

Just wanted to say Im proud of you for staying on the meds! How are you feeling mentally within yourself? Have some symptoms subsided?
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Old Dec 21, 2014, 08:17 PM
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I heard it from my pharmacist that Zyprexa tablets shouldn't be cut. They have the hard outer coating and apparently the pills are less effective if that coating is messed with. I don't think doctors know that, because I've done it lots of times. But I do notice that my 7.5 mg tablets work better than did the 5 mg with 1/2 of another 5 mg tablet. Just throwing that out there.
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Old Dec 21, 2014, 08:37 PM
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When I've had to half zyprexa they gave me the wafers, I have to waste half but I get the meds cheap on the PBS so Im not losing any money. I was told not to half the tablets but the wafers it can be done, you just cant use the other half after it has been exposed too long.
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Old Dec 21, 2014, 10:19 PM
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How old is he? He's 12 but has ADHD/PDD-NOS and mood issues. So it's hard to differentiate because he's all over the place developmentally. It's completely possible doesn't know he's lying or the gravity of his attentions. He'd still has those consequences if he was an adult. He'd get fired and have to start brand new at a company years under his abilities.

Just wanted to say Im proud of you for staying on the meds! thank-you.

How are you feeling mentally within yourself? I'm trying my best not to think of the weight

Have some symptoms subsided? I'm not in a mood swing but on the half pill I'm still getting tack tile hallucinations and intrusive thoughts. I'm going to call the nurses line tomorrow to see if I can get 5mg to make sure I don't get "flat" again.

They have the hard outer coating and apparently the pills are less effective if that coating is messed with. My old pdoc says if you brake coated pills in half they loose 5% of there effectiveness but that could just be viibryd. I'm going to call tomorrow for the 5 mg, the 7.5 I was gaining a pound a week and flat but I'll have to do the 7.5 until pdoc and insurance approves the lower dose.

I'm concerned about the weight gain and blood sugar so I'm going to test my blood sugar every week.
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Old Dec 21, 2014, 10:50 PM
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Old Dec 22, 2014, 07:03 AM
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This sucks. This sucks! !!! I hate this. Zypexa took away the feelings of the bugs in my hair/body for the first time ever but made me 'flat". Now I know what it's like not to have them it's harder to deal with it then it was before. Does that make sense?
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Old Dec 22, 2014, 07:51 AM
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Last night my husband broke down. Miguel is less on level then his 5 yr old cousin. On the outside he looks fine except the bloody pick marks and scars all over his body. My husband is very negative saying we need to get SSI and put him in special ED in school. His chances of meeting someone that is willing to deal with his issues my husband thinks are slim to none. We both feel public school isn't for him, private school is to much so our options are to find an alternative school or continue trying to home school. He's 12 so we have time. So we hold him back. He's only 12. We can do this. Legally he can take course until he's 21. He only needs to complete 3 class a year to graduate at 19. I agree that we need help. We need to see if he qualitys for. SN gym and ocuparional therapy. He needs a drama class. Maybe that is one of the classes he takes next year?
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Old Dec 22, 2014, 08:49 AM
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Have you considered connecting with a Parent to Parent program in your area? It's run by and for parents of children with special needs. They'll match you with another parent who's been where you are. Maybe they can help you sort through the educational challenges? It's free. They should also be able to help you understand what services might be available.
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Old Dec 23, 2014, 07:57 AM
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There are many options in your area. I had a few friends in the past that needed some services down there that was very helpful to their children for. Talk to your T , Social worker, or just go to the school board office they will have a list of options that will meet his current needs.

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Old Dec 23, 2014, 09:01 AM
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This sucks. This sucks! !!! I hate this. Zypexa took away the feelings of the bugs in my hair/body for the first time ever but made me 'flat". Now I know what it's like not to have them it's harder to deal with it then it was before. Does that make sense?
I didnt even realize i had such a loud brain with near constant racing/intrusive thoughts ect
Until i was in treatment . When the medicine i was on made my brain completely QUIET i finally realized the severity of it. It was a hard adjustment in this case because it was like living in a busy city your whole life and being thrown into a dessert.
But yes i think when something works on your symtoms you realize how extreme they really are
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Old Dec 23, 2014, 11:14 AM
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Parent to Parent program ? I'll look into it. We need all the help we caneed get. He's not getting worse just bigger. It kinda hurts seeing my nephew (5) more "advanced" than him. ( Ie. Cousin can follow more than 1 step directions. )

Christina because of his resent Sui thoughts he is getting a more intensive plan on the 5th. I'm hoping that ocupational therapy and physical therapy are an option. I'm looking into a drama class to help his pdd and meet others. He's going to do Friday night pizza party starting neXT month. We need it.
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Old Dec 24, 2014, 09:52 PM
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I'm so sad the bugs are back. It's like the zyprexa took away my coping skills. I can't even pretend to be happy. I think that it's noticeable that I'm trying to shake the bugs.
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Old Dec 26, 2014, 09:43 AM
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So I skipped meds for the first time since starting. I just can't get past the need for thirst and sweets. The bugs are back and my response to them is noticeable but so is my apathy on the medication. Advice please ??
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Old Dec 26, 2014, 10:08 AM
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It's important to find meds that improve your symptoms without causing worse ones; otherwise, it's impossible to stay on them. Is zyprexa the only AP that works for you or can you try another that doesn't cause hunger? Geodon or abilify?
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Old Dec 26, 2014, 10:22 AM
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If I can find a middle dose that stops the feeling of bugs and doesn't cause massive weight gain 1 lbs a week. I'm now taking in enough calories to exercise. I'm to calm on Zyprexa but it's nice. Abilify gave me insatiable hUnger and restless. Geodon has to be taken 2× a day right?
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So I skipped meds for the first time since starting. I just can't get past the need for thirst and sweets. The bugs are back and my response to them is noticeable but so is my apathy on the medication. Advice please ??
Messing with your meds has NEVER turned out well for you. Why do you do this to yourself? You choose instability and psychosis over stability.
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Old Dec 26, 2014, 11:45 AM
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I skipped it because I have nothing to drink with it aND not a dollar to my name. I hate the apithy, my family can't see me like that. The bug feeling at one time I was use to it maybe giving it time will let me get used to it again. I am calling the medication line today.
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You had no water? I'm not buying that. You are choosing the chaos of psychosis over stability. Stability feels apathetic to you because you are used to living in the "energy" of psychosis. I suspect if you'd actually give yourself time, you would adjust and realize it isn't really apathy; it's stability.
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Old Dec 26, 2014, 12:34 PM
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When i was 20 i went to the dr for the feeling of bugs crawling on me and he told me it was a manifestation of anxiety. Do you take a prn for anxiety?
Psychosis is when you become detached from reality. When i had a bad one i thought my parents were poisioning me i thought the fbi bugged my house. I thought the ppl on tv and in the newspaper were giving me messages. I hallucinated and also thought i was dying of aids and ppl were hiding it from me. It was so screwed up.
I needed an antipsychotic then but long term according to studies is dangerous
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Old Dec 26, 2014, 12:52 PM
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Our water is not drinkable and even if it was I've been in the ER for dehydration from refusing to drink water. My husband is currently out on a trip to the food bank as I've ate/drank us out of house and home. Hopefully it'll give us juice. Apathy/flatness is a real problem. I think it's unfair to say give it time as I've been giving it time. The dr. okay for me to half the dose but that doesn't stop the bugs. I've been on these meds for over a month. I do not want to "get use" to apathy/flatness. My husband deserved someone interested. My son deserves someone that can smile. I deserve to kill the psychosis without killing my personality, drinking a gallon+, and eating "human like". I'm trying to be responceble and tell myself only 16 % gained over 7 lbs. But do you have any idea how much 7lbs sounds like to an anorexic. it's 5 hrs of extra work time a day.
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Old Dec 26, 2014, 01:41 PM
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jacky8807- my former T felt it was nerve damage but Pdoc and PCP felt it was a tactile hallucination. turns out Pdoc and PCP were right as the AP got rid of the feelings of bugs. The lower the AP the faster the bugs come back. I know the dangers of AP's but I have almost destroyed my family this year with what new pdoc calls psychosis. New PCP, pdoc, and T want me on an anti psychotic. If I can I'd stay on this somehow but I worry I've developed diabeties I'll know in a couple of days.
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Old Dec 26, 2014, 01:42 PM
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Psychosis has energy?
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