The other day I saw someone post about bipolar saying it was a possession by demons and I thought hmmm.... What the heck never heard that one before thought it was a mental illness not possession I thought that was weird has anyone ever heard that bc I know bipolar is genetic bc my grandmother has it idk just wanted to know what everyone's thoughts were on it ?? Sometimes I wonder why do I have bipolar did I do something wrong in a past life was this brought on me somehow like how did this happen to me.. Some ppl say it's bc you associated with the devil or some crap I know when I feel an episode of manic or I'm depressed I get bad thoughts feel so low worthless and something is like telling me these things in my head there lies of course but at the time you start believing it must be some bad Ora doing this to me idk but I am not bad I'm not possessdd and then when I'm mad irrated manic I say things I don't mean to my spouse but later I realize did I say those things ?? That was not me that was the bipolar it's like someone said that for me it's so weird does anyone feel this way it's like there are two ppl in my head and one voice tells me I'm worthless and is so mean and if I'm arguing it tells my spouse what it's telling me later when it's gone I'm me again and can't hear that mean voice sometimes I view it as a mask I'm sad then mad idk just thoughts here..

[wiretwister]

IMO: every demon and god that exists is created by yourself, there are no outside influences,, we believe what we create ourself period. I know this view is not pc but it is what I believe.,,IMO.

[Crazy Hitch]

(((Sky101)))

Please allow me to clarify this for you, merely from my own perspective, which could be subjective to interpretation.

I shall ask the poster to contact you. This way I can ensure that I have understood the post and have not misinterpreted anything.

The other day I saw someone post about bipolar saying it was a possession by demons

This was a post started by a member who had been told by a colleague that they were possessed by demons and did not have an MI. The comment made by the colleague was an insensitive one.

Please DO NOT believe this to be true.

We are not possessed by demons.

We have chemical imbalances in our brain.

Look after yourself Sky101.

Here's a nice picture for you to distract yourself with:

[Skywalking]

I've actually been told something similar by a family member who is very religious and refuses to believe that I could just be sick. People back in the day didn't understand mental illnesses and blamed them on the devil or other supernatural beings, and often tried to blame the sick person for their illness.

A good example of the kind of crap that kind of thinking can lead to is very well portrayed in "The Crucible," the play about the Salem witch trials. Unfortunately many people continue believing stuff like that, and stigma in society that portrays mentally ill folks as monsters just adds to it. Heck, look at the article about "psychopaths and sociopaths " on the front page of this site. Doesn't that make folks with ASPD look like demonic creatures? (I complained about that article btw)

So here's the deal.

Mental illness is never your fault. Never. Not EVER. And anybody who tries to blame you for being ill, is one day going to have to learn some hard lessons about compassion, because nobody gets away with that kind of judgmental thinking forever.

Mental illness is just an illness like any other.

That makes me feel better bc I know I'm truly not a bad person when I'm me

I'd say if the illness responds to medication then it is NOT possession. I say there is a God.

[Velouria]

Originally Posted by wiretwister

IMO: every demon and god that exists is created by yourself, there are no outside influences,, we believe what we create ourself period. I know this view is not pc but it is what I believe.,,IMO.

I kind of have to agree with that (I do believe in the supernatural, though).

One of my favorite quotations is by the nihilist Friedrich Nietzsche and it goes:

"The 'kingdom of Heaven' is a condition of the heart - not something that comes 'upon the earth' or 'after death.'"

And it means that we make our own heavens or hells. We are our own demons or angels. Metaphorically speaking, though. Not for real. Nietzsche believed, as he put forth in his book The Antichrist, that the kingdom of God is within us.

Remember that mental illness really was only starting to truly be understood in the late 19th-early 20th Century with Sigmund Freud paving the way.

Many people used to believe that mental illnesses were cases of possession -- and I'm sure that if you read about cases of possession from 200 or so years ago, they'll bear resemblance to a variety of mental illnesses.

I think sometimes the lack of control we can experience over our own brains, our own thoughts, perceptions, and feelings, can feel very much like a possession. And it can be very scary because there is that duality, of "something else" taking over while you are hidden away somewhere as events play out and all you can do, if anything, is watch yourself set the world on fire, so-to-speak.

But you are not possessed. You will not be forever lost, or damned, and demons have nothing to with it.

Now, if you start spitting out fluent Latin or Aramaic one day, without ever having learned it, that might be a different story.

[HALLIEBETH87]

In IP last week I was upset and starting talking to a staff. She told me I was going through spiritual warfare.

[cashart10]

Originally Posted by HALLIEBETH87

In IP last week I was upset and starting talking to a staff. She told me I was going through spiritual warfare.

I also once had a spiritual counselor convinced I was involved in extreme spiritual warfare. She believed this so strongly that when I admitted to being scarily close to sui she just said she would continue to pray for me. She never once advised me to go to the hospital, let alone a back to a psychiatrist.

Also, I have personally believed that I have been demon possessed while delusional. Once in my right mind, I knew that was just a lie.

[HALLIEBETH87]

Well she was super sweet. That's not all of the conversation but it did strike me as odd to have it in IP.

[wiretwister]

Originally Posted by HALLIEBETH87

Well she was super sweet. That's not all of the conversation but it did strike me as odd to have it in IP.

not very professional of her

[HALLIEBETH87]

She was just a tech...basically a babysitter. But shes one of the sweetest ones there!

I'm sorry if my rant was misinterpreted. I was upset that I was approached and told that I could be released from my possession. That I did not have a mental illness. This made me livid. It set my mind in spirals. My post was in no way meant to insinuate that I believe it. I'm sorry if it offended you. My rant was simply because I was upset about it. My apologies.

[Ruftin]

Originally Posted by Hooligan

(((Sky101)))

Please allow me to clarify this for you, merely from my own perspective, which could be subjective to interpretation.

I shall ask the poster to contact you. This way I can ensure that I have understood the post and have not misinterpreted anything.

The other day I saw someone post about bipolar saying it was a possession by demons

This was a post started by a member who had been told by a colleague that they were possessed by demons and did not have an MI. The comment made by the colleague was an insensitive one.

Please DO NOT believe this to be true.

We are not possessed by demons.

We have chemical imbalances in our brain.

Look after yourself Sky101.

Here's a nice picture for you to distract yourself with:

I SUPPORT THIS MESSAGE!!!!!!

[Fox0r]

I strongly believed I was possessed during my psychotic break from reality. The fact that the medicine has stopped the weird behavior leads me to believe otherwise now.

This kind of talk really upsets me because I am an atheist.

It is very dangerous for anyone to say that someone with a mental or physical illness is being possessed by something that can make them act that way.

In the olden days they had no diagnosis for MI but to call one possessed. That archaic diagnosis has lingered till today. Ignorant fools.