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For those who believe in Heaven and He'll: do you think a person goes to hell for committing suicide?

For me yes. That's my belief.
And that's the thing that helps me when having strong suicidal thoughts.

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I'm Catholic, and my church used to teach that people who committed suicide were denied Heaven. However, we've become more tolerant of some things over the past 30 years or so, and now there is an understanding that suicide is an act of desperation, and that the person is not in full control of his/her faculties at the time. Therefore, he or she can be forgiven and enter Heaven, presumably after doing some time in Purgatory where people who are not in a state of grace go after death.

Even if you're not Catholic, however, I believe there is forgiveness and mercy. God knows our hearts, and He knows when we've reached the end of our rope and can no longer hold on. He understands. Man often does not.

I don't believe in heaven or hell in the religious sense. But the belief in them infers belief in a higher power, right? I'm guessing that if there actually is such a higher power, that it would be one hell of a lot better at compassion and understanding than most humans are.

Just my 2 cents.

I hope you're ok.

I still don't know about my personal belief but I hope you're ok.

I always believed that one would go to hell. Then I read the following article from the previous preacher of my church, Bob Russell. I almost wish I had never read it because it has stuck with me. I will likely still go to Heaven? And yet end this madness? So tempting...especially in times like these.

Is Suicide An Unpardonable Sin? Written on August 12, 2012 by admin in Uncategorized

In 1 Chronicles 10 King Saul was fatally wounded in a battle. His forces were soundly defeated and his son Jonathan had already been killed. Saul knew he was dying and “said to his armor-bearer, ‘Draw your sword and run me through, or these uncircumcised fellows will come and abuse me.’ But his armor-bearer was terrified and would not do it; so Saul took his own sword and fell on it” (1 Chronicles 10:4-5).

Saul was going to die anyway. Was he wrong to take his own life in order to spare himself and his nation further humiliation? What about people who have a terminal disease and want to escape the pain? What about the disabled who are determined not to be a burden to their families? What about the people who jumped off the World Trade Towers because they were about to be consumed in the heat? What about those who are so filled with despair that they no longer see any reason for living?

Suicide is never in the will of God. The Bible says that God has numbered our days. When we cut those days short we are usurping the throne of God. God often uses extreme suffering for His glory and our deepening. To take our own life eliminates the potential for God to work all things together for His good and demonstrates a lack of faith in His promises. Suicide is wrong because it is selfish. It leaves loved ones to live with terrible guilt and embarrassment.

To commit suicide is to murder oneself and violate the sixth commandment. Some argue, “It’s my life,” but the Bible teaches, “You are not your own; you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your body” (1 Corinthians 6:19-20).

When the Philippian jailer concluded that all his prisoners had escaped he drew his sword to kill himself. The loss of even one prisoner meant certain execution. With the entire prison emptied, he saw no hope at all. In his mind the only honorable way to die would be to fall on his own sword and spare his superiors the gruesome task of killing him.

But the Apostle Paul abruptly interrupted him insisting that not one prisoner had left. The jailer was so grateful he took Paul and his companion Silas into his home and washed the wounds that he himself had inflicted on them. When Paul told him what to do to be saved, the jailer and his household believed and were baptized that same night.

What appeared to be a completely hopeless situation turned out to be the most glorious night of his life. He went from total despair – potentially suicidal – to a jubilant witness for Christ in a matter of hours. Life can turn around quickly when God is given a chance.

While suicide is not God’s will, it is not defined in Scripture as the unpardonable sin. God’s grace is amazing. He knows the thoughts and intents of the heart. He knows there are some people who suffer so much they despair even of life, as did Paul. (See 2 Corinthians 1:8.) God knows there are believers who drift from His will and become so distraught that they lose all sense of reason. Although they didn’t take their own lives, even Job and Elijah prayed that they would die.

While watching the Olympics this past month I remembered years ago witnessing an outstanding Olympic gymnast perform a flawless routine on the parallel bars. Throughout her routine, the commentators expressed appreciation for what they called a perfect performance. But on her dismount, she stumbled and nearly fell on her face. She was not awarded with a perfect “10” score, but the judges still gave her such high marks that she won a bronze medal. The judges, being fair, evaluated her overall performance and not the final mistake.

The Judge of the universe is fair and just. He sees the heart and knows the mind. When evaluating a life, we trust that the Judge of all the earth will do right and mercifully evaluate the overall performance and not just the final mistake.

No, I don't believe that. There are too many different religions that believe different things for any one way to be right. For example, some people believe that to be cremated is a desecration of the body, and a sin. That to my mind is ridiculous, since many cultures have chosen this type of end for a body.

I believe the soul carries burdens that it carries, whether the burdens are caused by negative action, or simply carrying the burdens of other peoples emotions. I don't believe he'll or heaven is a location. I do believe in the soul as a kind of magnetic energy that is attracted to itself. But I think the soul returns to being a part of the energy made up of all living things on the earth.

What would he'll be to a bad person? A place where everyone was happy and he/she couldn't hurt anyone? Much like heaven is described. People too often attribute the mystery of heaven/he'll into descriptions of places, rather then understanding that all of the physical would be left behind. There isn't a party - there isn't a table with your favorite foods, and your dog by your side. There is a complete returning to the energy that is a part of all things.

Perhaps that energy will ball together again and become an individual with similar thoughts and problems of a person who lived before, much like re-incarnation. And perhaps lessons that could have been learned in previous lives will be learned in future ones. Then the energy that moved in a tight stressful circle will be remade into a lighter, brighter happier ball of new energy.

The wonderful thing is, we each start fresh. We each must try to be kind. Not cause pain for others. But also - keep the spirit clean from judgement, and closed minded beliefs where their is all or nothing. The motivation to be kind should be because, being considerate and honest, and charitable makes it easier to care for ourselves and easier to live among others. Not from fear of invisible punishments.

If there is a God, shouldn't everyone understand that it is not a human like form with a gavel in one hand and jail cell keys in another. But a god of snowflakes, and butterflies, understanding and all things glorious and wondrous throughout the universe and beyond. A god of purpose, growth and change. Never just the black and white definitions that limited human minds can conceive.

no. I think committing suicide is not an act of sin or cruelty; it's an act of desperation and immense, unimaginable pain and suffering.

No, I don't believe that.

I don't believe in them, but if I did I would not think suicide would mean going to hell. Suicide comes from this place of pain and suffering. It's only hurting yourself...not physically harming anyone else (probably emotionally). But if one had a choice, it would be nice if someone who passed by suicide went to heaven because then their suffering would truly end.

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I don't believe that suicide is the unpardonable sin. I found this article that I like and it states that the only unforgivable sin is rejecting Christ.

What is "the unpardonable sin?" How does sin become "unforgivable?" ? ChristianAnswers.Net

"It is unequivocally clear that the one unforgivable sin is permanently rejecting Christ (John 3:18; 3:36)."

I hope this brings you some comfort.

I believe the individual is condemned to Hades. How can a dead person ask for forgiveness? Thou shalt not murder. That includes yourself

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So do you believe if you commit a sin (any sin) and then you die, you are going to he'll because you weren't able to ask forgiveness?

I personally believe once you recieve Christ and ask forgiveness, he forgives all your sins, even future ones.

I would hate to have to live believing that if I commit a sin and then happen to die that I would go to he'll. I would be constantly worried and walking on eggshells trying not to sin every moment. That would cause me great turmoil and I think I would hate life.

The scenario you've provided is called, "Once saved always saved!" If you receive Christ into your life and sleep with someone's spouse two weeks later you have committed sin which requires forgiveness from God. The difference in a born again believer and a sinner is the believer does not practice sin. It's something that occurs over time because none of us are perfect. James 4:17 says, " Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin." Christians are tempted by Satan on a daily basis to do things that are not like God. It's not about walking on egg shells because when you receive Christ, the Bible says you become and new creation. This is my belief ...

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Yes, I do believe that once saved, always saved. I also believe we should strive not to sin, but be realistic, it's going to happen. And yes, once saved I do believe you become a new creation and your goal is not to sin. But everyone stumbles. And I refuse to believe if I sinned and the next minute fell down and died, that I would go to he'll. All my sins have been forgiven. If we didn't sin, there would have been no reason for Christ to come and die on the Cross. I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.

It's ultimately up to God where a person ends up. I have no Heaven or Hell to put anyone in. That's what I love about American. We all are free to believe as we please! 😊

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any thing that seperates is not of God,, since God created, all is God stuff..so all people are of God and any thing be it religion goverment laws racism economics , anything that seperates... then it is not of God,, by definition ALL organized religions are not of God...since they all seperate people into us and them....heaven and hell are only in your mind....if you believe it then it is real for you...IMO....

I have to believe it or I'd be dead right now.

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