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Old Feb 23, 2016, 01:42 AM
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Soooo.... Not to be ignorant but my therapist keeps hinting at borderline personality disorder with out saying it's borderline personality disorder.
I know for a fact that it isn't for many reasons but he thinks I have issues with abandonment because my dad died and I said that he left me.
My psychiatrist says that it's bipolar and I have experienced full blown manic and hypo manic episodes like today. And right now.

This brought to my attention that sometimes in therapy we fish for answers and then try to fill the void with lies.

Imagine you are painting a painting or singing a song because you feel that way.
The end product is going to be creative and organic.

Now imagine some one told you to think of what you want to paint or sing even though you weren't feeling it.

It would be a lie or a false story.

I feel like this is what's happening in my therapy. I'm looking for answers that I can't feel and my mind is replacing questions with answers that are wrong because my therapist is assuming stuff that isn't true.

Does anyone else experience this in therapy? Is therapy even necessary for someone with bipolar?

Has anyone ever hit a brick wall of what's real and what isn't when it comes to bipolar and feelings and therapists?

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Is therapy THAT effective?

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Old Feb 23, 2016, 07:29 AM
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Therapy helped me accept my strange thoughts, get and stay on meds I need, accept the help that I needed and we regularly work on reality checking. I don't delve into my past. I'm not that kinda girl. T has outright said I have trauma. I tell him no and move on. CBT may be a better fit for you as it's goal based. I'd say you need a new therapist or start saying "I don't know" when you really mean it.

For my treatment therapy is needed. For others maybe 4-15 min appointments a year is enough.
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Old Feb 23, 2016, 08:42 AM
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I personally need therapy and I really like my therapist. Miguel's mom might be right and a new therapist is needed. Hugs

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Old Feb 23, 2016, 09:00 AM
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My old therapist was kind of like yours, except she kept saying that I had ADHD and that I didn't suffer from depression. I literally told her that I sometimes wanted to die. (I didn't necessarily want to "kill myself" per se, but I just didn't want to exist anymore). I could tell she was very skeptical because she said, "Uh huh... You still don't come across as depressed to me. I think you're just frustrated." I thought to myself, Are you freaking crazy? Sometimes I would spend the entire night crying in my bed... like several hours... and I'd have constant thoughts of wanting to die... and yet she said it was "due to ADHD".

I got a new therapist recently (2 months ago) and he's been a lot better. He's not an idiot like she was. (Sorry, but idiot is the only way to describe her.) I've been doing A LOT better in therapy since switching to this new guy.

Some therapists try to diagnose, and those are the kinds of therapists I will always stay away from. My new therapist will not step on my psychiatrist's toes -- meaning, he won't try to "diagnose" me. If he's concerned about something, he contacts my psychiatrist first and they talk it out.

Maybe you just need a new therapist?
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Old Feb 23, 2016, 09:18 AM
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I've had other talk therapy and even turned to self help but none helped really until I entered a CBT program. It has been a great positive experience and influence on my life. Since I've actually done the homework it seems to be sticking.

Now there are CBT workbooks out there and I DO recommend them. My problem with them was I tried to read through them in one sitting and ignorred taking the worksheets seriously. If you are unable to find a CBT therapist I highly recommend picking up one of these books.BUT! Take your time! No more than a chapter per week and actually do the homework - and do it daily.
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Old Feb 23, 2016, 10:28 AM
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A few years ago I had a great Psychiatrist that actually spent an hour or more with me.
It was better than a Pdoc +T.

My Pdoc could do a lot to help me understand the reason for meds and what to expect. Then we also tweaked the meds together. He knew cbt too. I stayed out of hospital for many years.
Then one day he and the other Pdocs were gone. I had to see the owner Pdoc who was wierd and also I think on drugs.
I came down here to a CR and when I went home the office was a dress shop. Don't know what happened to my records or anything. Pretty traumatic.

The Pdoc I met ip is just a script writer. The only talk time you get is while she's writing scripts. She also is in favor of continued ECT. I'm totally against it. I have enough brain damage. 1/2 of the people in my contacts, I don't recognize who they are.

So if you can stay out of hospital and work, and sleep. Be happy.

Maybe join a support group thru NAMI DBSA.
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Old Feb 23, 2016, 10:53 AM
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For me, it was ineffective until I met the right one. She is helpful and, might I say, enlightening enough to change my life for the better.
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Old Feb 23, 2016, 02:52 PM
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I don't know.

I've had such lousy luck with therapists (I've tried five) I've given up even trying another one. I'm sure with the right one it could be very beneficial though.
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Old Feb 23, 2016, 03:05 PM
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Thanks for all your support guys! Xoxo

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Old Feb 23, 2016, 06:27 PM
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I had a great therapist once. And in a fit of rage I left her. Now I'm not as well off financially, and these therapists covered by state insurance aren't the greatest. I feel like they're just counting the minutes until I leave. I'm not going to give up though. I'm going to keep trying until I find someone that suits my needs.
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