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Old Feb 27, 2016, 05:11 PM
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I know it has definitely delusional qualities to it, but has any of you ever felt like Moses: chosen by God, leading those enslaved by psychiatry, by extension, society, to the Promised Land, promised to us by God, where no-one has to be enslaved by society's rigidity, carelessness, callousness, coldness and rules favouring the normal, the conformists, those who have long lost all passion, in life.

I have been guilty of this "delusion", but in my defence, I think all of us, society's outcasts, can be this Moses. Like a vanguard.

Now, what's delusional about that? Even when you find it all-important, isn't it just?
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Old Feb 27, 2016, 05:34 PM
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I absolutely have this experience. It is devastating when you come down and realize you are just ordinary.
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Old Feb 27, 2016, 05:46 PM
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spent many years knowing I was the only one able to completly understand and interpet God to others , knew I would die at 33 like the Christ did ... was able to talk to and hear God , not voices , just knowing it .. I settled all agruments in bible college with my ancient language books and many many different translations including hebrew and greek texts ...
Then ... learned too much ... lost all religion and spirituality ...
My very real practice of thinking black and white ...
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Old Feb 27, 2016, 05:47 PM
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I absolutely have this experience. It is devastating when you come down and realize you are just ordinary.
More ordinary, but still kinda special!

Some (grandiose/self-transcending) delusions can guide you during stable or depressed times in diluted form, I am sure.
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Old Feb 27, 2016, 07:01 PM
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I also (still) believe that all prophets must've had delusional tendencies and we sometimes have a stronger, closer connection to God. Then we lose our way: we cannot channel it. We get scared.

As I see it, it's just a matter of finding the right balance. Not as in being stable, but balancing the mania, on the edge of the vulcano, or Mount Horeb if you prefer.

Striking that balance you both still hold on to that connection, but you are, by pure conviction and tact (maybe add exceptional circumstances) able to make the delusion into a folie à plusieurs and the believers will convince others and so on. It doesn't have to become a religion, but let it be step forward for humankind.

If anyone knows my employer or psychiatrist: don't!
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Old Feb 27, 2016, 07:41 PM
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I also (still) believe that all prophets must've had delusional tendencies and we sometimes have a stronger, closer connection to God. Then we lose our way: we cannot channel it. We get scared.

As I see it, it's just a matter of finding the right balance. Not as in being stable, but balancing the mania, on the edge of the vulcano, or Mount Horeb if you prefer.

Striking that balance you both still hold on to that connection, but you are, by pure conviction and tact (maybe add exceptional circumstances) able to make the delusion into a folie à plusieurs and the believers will convince others and so on. It doesn't have to become a religion, but let it be step forward for humankind.

If anyone knows my employer or psychiatrist: don't!
On one episode of The Joe Rogan Experience (I think) anthropologist Chris Ryan talked about how historically spealong hearing voices and experiencing delusions and "visions" wasn't seen as nefarious or abnormal but rather as one having a spiritual epiphany and experience with God. Kind of interesting to think about.
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I will just say one more thing ... read Joseph Campbell ... it will change your life ... for good or bad , that's your choice ...
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Old Feb 27, 2016, 10:07 PM
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Moses no. But specially chosen with grand insights - yes. I have contacted the Dalai Lama (well- where you leave him messages) to tell him how to slightly change the way his priests chant, to change the world. The President, to tell him that we cut down 1 tree to many, and the oxygen was changing, and we needed to stop cutting trees down right then. Congress (I can get crazy with politics). I have told people if they should marry someone or not, if they are supposed to have a baby or not. I think I know everything when I am grandiose. I can become belligerent.

When not, I am fully taken with insecurity, unassuradness, and worthlessness and acceptance of same. I believe I would be perfect for being in an abusive relationship and can't love my husband enough or do enough.

Then I feel that magic touch of specialness because God is talking to me through a bird, tree, cloud, insect and I am full again of the special awareness I have that I am one of the greatest spirits on this planet.
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Old Feb 28, 2016, 03:29 AM
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Oh, yes! Contacting people of (some) influence. Politicians, psychiatrists, professors the world over. All to enlighten them and telling they do a lousy job, basically. Always tend to do some of that! Manic mixtures of text which go in all directions and make no sense.

But really, trying to convince anyone. The world should know!

Using therapy sessions, support group meetings or appointments to teach them the path to salvation. Making no sense.

Oh, and I haven't talked about colleagues! Bosses, executives, just anyone. Mostly after they already had decided to let me go or strongly adviced me going somewhere else might be better suited to my abilities (read: accepting of you not doing your job), so it was not really a problem.
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Old Feb 28, 2016, 07:48 AM
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I have felt the strong spirit of Jesus. But usually too self absorbed to tell Congress what to do.
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Old Feb 28, 2016, 07:59 AM
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I've have grandiose delusions when I'm particularly manic, but not at all when I'm stable.
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