Pot

So I know all the literature says pot is like poison to those with BP. but I really think it helps me, except for legal reasons, I've had a few posessions that were dropped to disorderlies. It helps me sleep, and is basically a cure for depression, and it brings me down when I'm manic.

The thing is I live in Pennsylvania and we just legalized medicainal, only BP isn't on the list of approved disorders... however PTSD is. Now I don't think I have PTSD but I did have a gun pointed at me when I was 6 or 7, and I think I could persuade my pdoc to be on board if I play that out. anyone here think that's wrong... to basically fake one illness to get the meds I need?

Is depression on the list? Depression is part of bipokar so it may qualify. I would try to be completely honest when getting your card. You shouldn't have to lie to get something which helps you. Contacts the office and see if you qualify under depression. Best of luck.

Cannabis helps with my pain and also with sleep. A insomnia covered and do you suffer with it while depressed? Insomnia should be in the list of approved disorders. Is your appetite poor when in a mood state? Poor appetite could be covered. Look at all things covered and you might be in luck.

depression is not on the list

Sometimes I have to bend the truth with drs to be heard. No it's not right though. But if pot really helps you then why not. Medical pot is legal here in MI and I'm pretty sure anxiety is on the list. My friend smokes a strain that works for her anxiety. Pot does help me sleep but about a week ago I had a killer panic attack after smoking. I thought I was seriously having phychosis lol. I woke my bf up freaking out and he just looked at me like "God shut up and go to bed" lol. Safe to say I'm never going to overdue it again. The batch my bf has is really strong and messed me up the entire day. Not cool. But I'd give medical pot a chance because certain strains are for certain Illnesses.

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I just read my post. Sorry for the slaughter of the English language. I'm sorry depression is not on the list and nothing you currently have can be covered. If you don't have PTSD, I don't think you want it added to your medical file. By lying, you are mudding the waters of your diagnosis unfortunately.

I would protest. (Well, if I were manic I'd protest, stable I'd just grumble silently)

The laws regarding pot are ridiculous in my opinion. I'm surprised insomnia is not listed. It really should be. So should depression. They should just regalize already.

I think it's bull that bipolar and depression are not on the list, but anxiety is.

I get it that pot calms you down (hence it's good for anxiety), but it has other uses!

I dunno. I've always thought pot should be legalized. You can't OD on it and it's safer than alcohol. Why is alcohol legal but pot isn't? Alcohol is considered a drug too.

I guess you could try to get diagnosed with anxiety if that's easier than getting diagnosed with PTSD.

It helps me with a certain type of mania. Like sometimes I get this super irritable mania and it is the only thing that helps. It actually like makes me into a super nice person, very attentive (only when I am in that state). It is last on my list of vices I want to be rid of...after food, after alcohol, after prescriptions. I believe it is the least harmful of all those things (for me). Sometimes though when I am manic I abuse it or I am depressed and I use it even though it isn't helpful. It would be nice if it was just legal...not medical, but just legal.

I prefer nicotine. It doesn't make you eat like food will be banned starting the following day.

It's similar in many other ways. And it doesn't affect your memory (negatively).

Sativa's don't mess with appetite much. Indica will give you mad munchies though.... Probably like Seroquel seems too. I've only been given seroquel in the hospital and I was manic and didn't get munchies. Paxil is my munchie medicine.

It's so weird, I've heard others say Paxil gives them the munchies. I have the exact opposite reaction. I have to seriously force myself to take a few bites to keep from throwing up an hour or so after meds.

Honestly even if you did have PTSD, if they were aware of the BP1 they still wouldn't give it to you. Looks like you're stuck with the black market. Same here but NYC is much easier than PA.

This may contradict past things i've said on here because i find myself having to rely on the lesser of two evils sometimes, but ultimately weed doesn't help anything for probabaly 90~% of people. I have problems with drugs myself and i've rationalized drug use in every possible way. I monitored my mood changes and overall life with and without all sorts of drugs, mainly marijuana and/or opiates. Weed may relax you while high, but just like tobacco it puts you more on edge and unstable when you're not high. It also messes with REM sleep, and we all know sleep is very important for BP. Now i'm not saying mj should be illegal and is a terrible drug, infact it annoys me when people that are addicted to weed try telling me that it's as bad as heroin, crack, or meth... OR even mention it in the same sentence lol... I do know that it negatively affects me and everyone in some way, especially with daily use. I don't mean to come off condescending or rude because i'm farrrr from perfect, but saying that it helps you is just rationalizing use which is just going to eventually make your moods unstable. It causes the depression that you think you need weed for, that's how addiction works. Also smoking weed just fills time where a person should be expanding their horizons. Learning new things, picking up new hobbies, etc. It dulls us out and makes us complacent, it also damages our creativity contrary to what most think. If moderation is possible for someone(not for me) there is no problem with it at all. Just be careful and try to look past the voice in or head telling us we need to alter our minds with drugs.

The jury is still out in relation to MJ use and if it's worth it for me. I do find it helps with pain tremendously. That is not rationalizing use, it's a fact. But since I have bipolar in addition to pain, and since it will obviously effect my mood, I go back in forth on if it's worth it. For pain it is worth it. For my mood alone, I try to avoid it.

I leave it up to the individual and a doctor to decide if it's right for them. It's easy to rationalize use. It's just as easy to not take meds when they are helpful. It's all very confusing at the end of the day.

Back when I lived in the states I smoked a lot of pot. It calms my anxiety, helps with pain (I suffer from fibromyalgia amongst other things), helped with my insomnia ect...it basically helped me function a lot of the time. I didn't get diagnosed BP until after I quit smoking it altogether, and now looking back I understand why it helped me so much with problems I had that I couldn't identify.

I would be completely honest when applying to get medical cannibus. I really wish I could get it here. I probably can....but it would mean traveling to Copenhagan or Amsterdam and that gets expensive, it's not legal in Sweden.

Thanks for this. I myself am on the 'marijuana maintenance program'. I used to be an alcoholic and junkie. Amazingly I was able to quit, but have pretty much been smoking weed ever since. I think it does help me to stay off of the other ****. But you are right- it does have a negative side and it's so easy for an addict/alcoholic to start using it compulsively.
Also- since I recently stopped my e-cig I've been smoking a lot more. I am seriously considering a taper schedule because I know smoking too much has led to episodes.
It's just hard because I look at weed as my safety blanket, and I worry about additional mood disturbances when I stop.